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TSlouis_ong
post Mar 19 2019, 09:58 PM, updated 7y ago

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Hi...I would like to find a digital lockset for my house main door...thinking to get one with app control n fingerprint

How abt this model??
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.Leqi

Or any better model??


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post Mar 19 2019, 11:58 PM

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Please verify again with the seller.
I'm doubtful if this lock supports bluetooth or wifi without additional module.
It seems that zwave module is given only.

anyway, bluetooth is pretty useless for digital lock.
unlocking via fingerprint, numpad or tag is way faster.

also, if you have grille installed, you may consider to get two digital locks in total.
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post Mar 20 2019, 01:07 PM

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im using 4109 + 424g for my grill. without app/bluetooth but the fingerprint is fine
TSlouis_ong
post Mar 23 2019, 06:34 PM

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Anyone use this before??



US $368.39 5% Off | Xiaomi Youpin M2 Smart Lock Automatic Fingerprint Sliding Lock Fully Automatic Push-Pull Smart Remote Control For Mijia APP

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/csjkBHoy

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post Mar 23 2019, 11:30 PM

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Xiaomi products are at good value for home iot range but frequently very buggy and unreliable.
For door lock, I prefer to look for other more reputable brands.

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TSlouis_ong
post Mar 24 2019, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(Snoy @ Mar 23 2019, 11:30 PM)
Xiaomi products are at good value for home iot range but frequently very buggy and unreliable.
For door lock, I prefer to look for other more reputable brands.
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Thanks Snoy for your advices.

Do u any brand/model to recommend??

How abt Yale 4109+??

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post Mar 25 2019, 11:00 AM

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Please answer these questions by yourself before we can recommend something.

1. Do you want digital lock for both wooden door and grille? Or merely wooden door?

2. Please determine if your wooden door is using mortise or cylindrical lock? And how about your grille type?
If you don't know how to differentiate, please take some pictures of your existing doors/grille. (front/back/side)

3. What is your ranking for unlocking method?
- Fingerprint
- card
- physical key
- Bluetooth
- Remote app unlock
- Remote control (RF)
Please rank from most important to the least important one.
There isn't any lock having all these.
If I were you, I'll rank Bluetooth as lowest because it's way too slow and potentially draining battery.

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post Mar 25 2019, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Snoy @ Mar 19 2019, 11:58 PM)
Please verify again with the seller.
I'm doubtful if this lock supports bluetooth or wifi without additional module.
It seems that zwave module is given only.

anyway, bluetooth is pretty useless for digital lock.
unlocking via fingerprint, numpad or tag is way faster.

also, if you have grille installed, you may consider to get two digital locks in total.
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tbh, digital lock and grill, isn't it a bit redundant?
Because i was thinking about doing this... but it defeats the purpose of having the convenience of digital lock
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post Mar 25 2019, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(10071985 @ Mar 25 2019, 11:03 AM)
tbh, digital lock and grill, isn't it a bit redundant?
Because i was thinking about doing this... but it defeats the purpose of having the convenience of digital lock
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Why is it redundant?

Today, I have both wooden door and grille installed with digital locks.
It is extremely convenient.
Also, I feel safer for not having to look for key to unlock my grille in the event of emergency.

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post Mar 25 2019, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Snoy @ Mar 25 2019, 11:24 AM)
Why is it redundant?

Today, I have both wooden door and grille installed with digital locks.
It is extremely convenient.
Also, I feel safer for not having to look for key to unlock my grille in the event of emergency.
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because i was thinking having digital lock is convenient. so having a grill infront defeats the convenience purpose.
that aside, what digital lock do you use for your grill?
TSlouis_ong
post Mar 26 2019, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Snoy @ Mar 25 2019, 11:00 AM)
Please answer these questions by yourself before we can recommend something.

1. Do you want digital lock for both wooden door and grille? Or merely wooden door?

2. Please determine if your wooden door is using mortise or cylindrical lock? And how about your grille type?
If you don't know how to differentiate, please take some pictures of your existing doors/grille. (front/back/side)

3. What is your ranking for unlocking method?
- Fingerprint
- card
- physical key
- Bluetooth
- Remote app unlock
- Remote control (RF)
Please rank from most important to the least important one.
There isn't any lock having all these.
If I were you, I'll rank Bluetooth as lowest because it's way too slow and potentially draining battery.
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Thanks Snoy for yr advices.

1. Only wooden door for my main door, no grille installed.

2. Mortise

3. Fingerprint, app unlock, Bluetooth, card, key

Thanks.
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post Mar 26 2019, 01:51 PM

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I also saw this digital lock online, it can be linked with smart home system. Pls advices weather this brand is trustable. Thanks.



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post Mar 27 2019, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(10071985 @ Mar 25 2019, 02:43 PM)
because i was thinking having digital lock is convenient. so having a grill infront defeats the convenience purpose.
that aside, what digital lock do you use for your grill?
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When I'm home, wooden door is always open.
Grill is always there to give me a sense of security while acting fresh air inlet.

As I said, my grille has digital lock too.
Hence, convenience level is even better.

I'm using Gateman Z10-IH for my grille which is merely quarter price of similar yale lock.
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post Mar 28 2019, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(louis_ong @ Mar 26 2019, 01:51 PM)
I also saw this digital lock online, it can be linked with smart home system. Pls advices weather this brand is trustable. Thanks.
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Yes, the Orvibo looks nice but I think need to use in conjunction with their Smart Hub, total price work out not cheap for a chinese brand.
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post Mar 28 2019, 08:04 AM

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anybody installed this Mijia Smart Lock? It's the cheapest I found. Previously selling only Rm999

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/original...3JvLvo&search=1

These smart locks, they cant lock by themselves right?

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post Mar 28 2019, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(louis_ong @ Mar 26 2019, 01:47 PM)
Thanks Snoy for yr advices.

1. Only wooden door for my main door, no grille installed.

2. Mortise

3. Fingerprint, app unlock, Bluetooth, card, key

Thanks.
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Mortise lock is a bit tricky because of the inconsistent striker plate size.
Better if you can find a lock for compatible length of striker plate (same or longer).
You may need to hire someone to install the lock for you.

For your unlocking method ranking, the well known lock brands (Gateman, Yale, Schlage, etc) may not have the model for you.
You may only look for China brands.
Even though I haven't tried, but you may consider "Loock" digital lock.
China brand but being sold internationally in official channel.
Xiaomi did rebrand one of their models into Mijia ecosystem but the quality level may be different...

Things to take notes:
1. Some digital locks can "speak". Please make sure if you can get a English model if you don't prefer Chinese/Korea.

2. For some Korea digital locks especially the push/pull types, please make sure the push/pull direction matches you door.
In Malaysia, the door is normally "Push to open" from outside.
In Korea, the door is normally "Pull to open" from outside.
Just make sure you can buy a correct version.


QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 28 2019, 08:04 AM)
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anybody installed this Mijia Smart Lock? It's the cheapest I found. Previously selling only Rm999

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/original...3JvLvo&search=1

These smart locks, they cant lock by themselves right?
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No experience on Xiaomi lock. Do try at your own risk.
Please read the reply above and make sure the striker plate length is compatible.
Sometimes for "mortise" lock, if we modify the door for it, then we may have to stick with it again if it spoiled unless we change the door.

That's why I always prefer to buy lock from reputable brand with compatible size where I can still find a temporary mechanical replacement lock easily if digital lock failed.
I couldn't afford to have 1 day without a lock in my house. :-)



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post Mar 28 2019, 10:43 AM

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Snoy thanks for the write up. Sigh why locks are not standardize?
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post Apr 2 2019, 01:57 PM

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Better avoid Digital lock if possible, really easy to hack. no skill required



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post Apr 2 2019, 03:51 PM

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I thought in order to have this kind of digital lock, your main door must be thick enough in order to install this digital lock.

Please share your thoughts
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post Apr 3 2019, 02:44 PM

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Guys, dont mean to hijack the thread but does anyone have any good (or bad) experience with this Samsung "push/pull" system?

I'm leaning towards using tag instead of fingerprint/code.

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