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Lionel90
post Mar 19 2019, 11:21 PM

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Body part split is not recommended, because many body parts overlapped in performing a particular movement. Example, you are gonna work the chest and triceps if you bench press. Go for Push (triceps, chest, front delt)/Pull (back, biceps, rear delt)/Legs or Upper/Lower split. Age would impact your recovery so make you have enough rest, and maybe - I'm no expert - 5days is an overkill.

And dang, didn't know you are that young!
Lionel90
post Mar 20 2019, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 20 2019, 08:14 AM)
Thanks mate.

Have been support the Redsl since 18 years young!  biggrin.gif

I understand chest and triceps. However, I do splits between biceps and triceps. They grow the arms better than isolating the muscles.
Young?  laugh.gif

5 days is about right. 2 days workout. 3rd day rest.
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What do you mean you split between biceps & triceps? I thought there is an arm day, during which you should do both? Also, that's actually already isolating the muscles... Maybe draft what do you do on each of your upper part days?

5 days is alright if you train less than an hour each time, assuming the intensity is on point. Can't be training long and not enough rest between sessions.
Lionel90
post Mar 20 2019, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 20 2019, 10:32 AM)
Splits on same day.  Biceps and Triceps together. I do not do triceps and chest.

I normally do 50 to 60 minutes on weight training. Followed by 30 to 40 minutes cardio. 1 day rest after 2 days of training is adequate.
Especially rest day after the bigger muscle group days is effective.
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Oh then I understood you correctly, you are doing body parts split, therefore my point stands. You should do triceps on the same day you do chest (together with front delts), because both groups of muscles are required to perform pushing. Likewise for biceps & back (and rear delts), they are needed to pull. Doing what you are doing now, it might mean that your arms are being put on extra work by having to work on arm as well as back & chest day. That also mean that they might hamper your ability to train heavier/longer on the back & chest days. You are also short changing your back & chest muscles as you could not train them as frequently as you could if you adopt push/pull split. You can refer to my workout journal in my siggy if you don't mind, I use push/pull split.

That's quite a long workout, I fear you may not be able to keep it up in the long term, and consistency is the key to this game. But if you insist on doing that for now, maybe re-assess things should you find yourself getting tired despite having enough rest. I think recovery for 'young' people works differently.
Lionel90
post Mar 20 2019, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 20 2019, 12:01 PM)
Yeah

I used to do Push/Pull type of plans.
However, the concentrations of the triceps/biceps is limiting the size growth. For me anyway. I have high peaks of the biceps, but not size.
Maybe I am working the short muscles too much. But combining biceps and triceps on the same day has enable better size growth overall for me.
Yes, you are right. Its extra day for arms. But I am nit increasing heavier weights at this stage of my career. Just maintaining and changing ways of doing it. Just for maintenance for a 57 year olde body! 

Maybe good to revisit the Push/Pull regime for efficient workout.  thumbup.gif
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I think high peaks of the biceps has more to do with genetics. Actually the long head creates the peak, not the short head...
While you might not want to increase poundage to your workout, like I said, training your arms in isolation would short change your back, chest & even shoulder workout. Though it's not recommended, but if arms are your sole focus then only you know better what do you really want, so up to you lar really.

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 20 2019, 12:03 PM)
Lionel90

Weight: 63kg
Height: 170cm

Are these still your dimensions?

Very light! 

I am 172cm at 73kg.
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Yeah, still about 63-64kg. Decided that I would go slow (like really slow) rather than bulk up then cut, because my bones are too small, and I couldn't bear the sight of me having a very visible tummy. sweat.gif
Lionel90
post Mar 20 2019, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 20 2019, 03:09 PM)
You must appear very skinny!  Hehe

What is your age?
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I do appear like I don't even lift if I wear loosely, but not very skinny, yet, I hope.

I would be 30 next year. biggrin.gif

 

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