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post Mar 20 2019, 04:08 AM

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QUOTE(flagstar @ Mar 20 2019, 12:11 AM)
Not when I asked about the product before. They said galax is a good card for both performance and cooling. If it run undee 80c, I would not worry at all but here I am, when the case itself was the problem
I'm using the exact same card as you. (I've also replied you on your comment on my video, thank you very much for commenting!)

Try running Superposition benchmark at 1080P Extreme settings and see what's the maxed out temperature you get.

Mine tops at 76c and still remain silent, if I set the fan to run at 100% the temperature maxed out at just 64c.
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post Mar 20 2019, 04:16 AM

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Galax RTX 2060 actual recording with MSI Afterburner OSD showing the load, temps and FPS.

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post Mar 20 2019, 04:39 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 20 2019, 04:00 AM)
Room temperature at 35c is abnormal laaaa.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 20 2019, 04:08 AM)
I'm using the exact same card as you. (I've also replied you on your comment on my video, thank you very much for commenting!)

Try running Superposition benchmark at 1080P Extreme settings and see what's the maxed out temperature you get.

Mine tops at 76c and still remain silent, if I set the fan to run at 100% the temperature maxed out at just 64c.
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You're welcome. I saw your video while trying to find out why my card runs so hot and start to worry about it.

I'll try to run the benchmark later today and share the result here. I've tried two heavy title games earlier, MH World and Metro Exodus and both card manage to reach 83c thermal limit before it down clock to 1700MHz

As others have pointed out, the problem lies with my weak fan and tight airflow case so my card temp went as hot as it gets.

For the room temperature, I refer to my thermometer in my room at 3pm so yeah, it's quite hot here, without any A/C
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post Mar 20 2019, 05:28 AM

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How is the temperature when the ambient is cooler? Like 5-7am in the morning?

Just FYI, new out of the box graphics card sometimes suffer from bad heatsink thermal contact for the GPU and VRM. You can always try to re-apply thermal paste or thermal pad if applicable. Or try to re-mount the heatsink and tighten the screw. That's if it doesn't void the warranty.

Anyhow it's best to rule out ambient temperature and casing airflow are the culprit and you can send the card back to the vendor stating that it's overheating.

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post Mar 20 2019, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(Vigilant @ Mar 20 2019, 05:28 AM)
How is the temperature when the ambient is cooler? Like 5-7am in the morning?

Just FYI, new out of the box graphics card sometimes suffer from bad heatsink thermal contact for the GPU and VRM. You can always try to re-apply thermal paste or thermal pad if applicable. Or try to re-mount the heatsink and tighten the screw. That's if it doesn't avoid the warranty.

Anyhow it's best to rule out ambient temperature and casing airflow are the culprit and you can send the card back to the vendor stating that it's overheating.
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Lowest ambient temp in the case for said time was 42c at best, at least from this morning while it was idling.

I rather not void or do anything on the gpu while it is still brand new out of box so if it is faulty gpu, I would rather sent it back for RMA.
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post Mar 20 2019, 05:12 PM

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@goldfries I've tested the gpu with the superposition benchmark and the max temp I get was 85c (1st test: 82c, 2nd: 84c). Last test on game benchmark it tops 85c

I've provide the results of the 2nd benchmark here. I can't attach the text result of the benchmark though

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post Mar 21 2019, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(flagstar @ Mar 20 2019, 05:12 PM)
@goldfries I've tested the gpu with the superposition benchmark and the max temp I get was 85c (1st test: 82c, 2nd: 84c). Last test on game benchmark it tops 85c

I've provide the results of the 2nd benchmark here. I can't attach the text result of the benchmark though
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Your card probably have bad thermal paste application. Try touch the exposed heatsink with your hand to confirm if it actually imba hot. If you have one of those infrared thermometer, use that instead.

You can try undervolting instead of underclocking it, press Ctrl+F to open frequency curve graph in Msi Afterburner and lower the peak curve little by little.

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post Mar 22 2019, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 21 2019, 12:00 AM)
Your card probably have bad thermal paste application. Try touch the exposed heatsink with your hand to confirm if it actually imba hot. If you have one of those infrared thermometer, use that instead.

You can try undervolting instead of underclocking it, press Ctrl+F to open frequency curve graph in Msi Afterburner and lower the peak curve little by little.
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Well it is hot when touch (at 85c obviously it's hot). I didn't check the card if it would void the warranty or not if I were to remove the fan to apply thermal paste.

I don't reallt have much experience in undervolting a gpu more so if it's a brand new card. Unless it is an out of warranty card, i would do it
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QUOTE(flagstar @ Mar 22 2019, 05:56 PM)
I don't reallt have much experience in undervolting a gpu more so if it's a brand new card. Unless it is an out of warranty card, i would do it
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What, undervolting is just like underclocking. It doesn't void warranty.
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post Mar 23 2019, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(flagstar @ Mar 20 2019, 05:12 PM)
@goldfries I've tested the gpu with the superposition benchmark and the max temp I get was 85c (1st test: 82c, 2nd: 84c). Last test on game benchmark it tops 85c
How was the fan when you run the test? Was it screaming away?

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post Mar 23 2019, 05:31 PM

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After some thorough testing (not undervolt the card yet) with just the front panel open and fan filter above the case removed(I now had time to test this seriously), it seems @stevelum7 and @1024kbps were right after all, it is my problematic case and case fans itself. With those front panel open, my gc clock speed maintain at 1755MHz max 80c temp. If it were temp throttling, it would just sit below 1700MHz. Fan speed is set to auto at this point.

When I set the fan speed to 100% (front panel open), it would drop the temp further to sweet 73c 1770MHz, with quite audible fan noise from gc.

Afterwards, I tried to undervolt with the help from Afterburner to 1818MHz @ 950mV. It didn't change much however, sitting well averaging 78~80c at 1755~1770MHz. I would try to undervolt further if I could later on.


QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 23 2019, 05:21 PM)
How was the fan when you run the test? Was it screaming away?
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It was on auto, when I run it with closed case.. fan spin around 82% when temp limit were hit. It's audible but not that loud.
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QUOTE(flagstar @ Mar 23 2019, 05:31 PM)
After some thorough testing (not undervolt the card yet) with just the front panel open and fan filter above the case removed(I now had time to test this seriously), it seems @stevelum7 and @1024kbps were right after all, it is my problematic case and case fans itself. With those front panel open, my gc clock speed maintain at 1755MHz max 80c temp. If it were temp throttling, it would just sit below 1700MHz. Fan speed is set to auto at this point.

When I set the fan speed to 100% (front panel open), it would drop the temp further to sweet 73c 1770MHz, with quite audible fan noise from gc.

Afterwards, I tried to undervolt with the help from Afterburner to 1818MHz @ 950mV. It didn't change much however, sitting well averaging 78~80c at 1755~1770MHz. I would try to undervolt further if I could later on.
It was on auto, when I run it with closed case.. fan spin around 82% when temp limit were hit. It's audible but not that loud.
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But since the front panel can't be completely removed you have to put the front panel at the side every time you play game? That will make inside your casing full of dust.
Have you tried remove side panel (without removing front panel) and see if the temp drop?

The main problem with your setup are that AMD fan blowing air into heatsink, which afterward the hot air is spread out on the whole casing. The front fan blowing to motherboard while AMD fan blowing out of motherboard, it create resistance. The RTX also making it worse by spreading the hot air everywhere. One way is to change the heatsink to the type that have the fan blowing to the back of case like this:
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But you still need to remove the front panel to have better airflow.

If the temp drop when side panel removed, I have an idea how to improve the airflow without spending any money. Can the side panel transparent acrylic be removed? If can (Or you willing to remove it by force), install a filter (pantyhose work like magic) after remove the transparent acrylic and reverse the front panel fans so that it suck out air. Now the hot air that's being blown everywhere will be suck out on the 3 sides of the case while the side panel letting cold air in.

Letting the GPU fan spin faster is not a good idea, it shorten the fan lifespan. It would be better to have the case fans spin faster instead to have better airflow as it would be cheaper and easier to replace. Can all the 4 fans speed be controlled? Because it can get very loud when all 4 fans spin at max speed so it would be better to have it spin at max speed only when gaming.
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Mar 23 2019, 09:56 PM)
But since the front panel can't be completely removed you have to put the front panel at the side every time you play game? That will make inside your casing full of dust.
Have you tried remove side panel (without removing front panel) and see if the temp drop?

The main problem with your setup are that AMD fan blowing air into heatsink, which afterward the hot air is spread out on the whole casing. The front fan blowing to motherboard while AMD fan blowing out of motherboard, it create resistance. The RTX also making it worse by spreading the hot air everywhere. One way is to change the heatsink to the type that have the fan blowing to the back of case like this:
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But you still need to remove the front panel to have better airflow.

If the temp drop when side panel removed, I have an idea how to improve the airflow without spending any money. Can the side panel transparent acrylic be removed? If can (Or you willing to remove it by force), install a filter (pantyhose work like magic) after remove the transparent acrylic and reverse the front panel fans so that it suck out air. Now the hot air that's being blown everywhere will be suck out on the 3 sides of the case while the side panel letting cold air in.

Letting the GPU fan spin faster is not a good idea, it shorten the fan lifespan. It would be better to have the case fans spin faster instead to have better airflow as it would be cheaper and easier to replace. Can all the 4 fans speed be controlled? Because it can get very loud when all 4 fans spin at max speed so it would be better to have it spin at max speed only when gaming.
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I didn't test the temp yet when the side panel is removed but i'll do the test later on when I return as I'm currently outstation.

I'm aware the amd stock cooler do blowing hot air everywhere in the case hence the way I setup the current fan layout to combat it but not much. For cpu alone, sometimes if I ran a very heavy task, it tops 80c. What I didn't aware that gpu also contribute to the heat.

For the gpu fan, I agree with you. 100% running fan speed would reduce the lifespan of those fan more, that's why I would always opt for auto or at least 80% fan speed at max. For the case fan, only the rear exhaust fan can be control, the rest are connected to PSU thru dedicated fan controller (the simple low off high controller) but all of them were set to max anyway except the rear one, that sickle flow fan can get really loud when set to max

Good idea on the idea for DIY case, I might do it when I have the time (of course after the test with side panel open)


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post Mar 25 2019, 12:25 AM

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In the end everything boils down to your room temperature.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 25 2019, 12:25 AM)
In the end everything boils down to your room temperature.
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In the end, I opted for new case now. I bought Thermaltake Versa H27 TG ATX Case (same brand but eh, I like its build for the price), reuse all the case fans from previous case with 3 front intake, 1 rear exhaust and 1 top exhaust.

Tested case under idle
CPU: 40c (3.2GHz)
GPU: 42c (400MHz)
GPU Fan speed: 50%

Tested on load (MHW Very high preset)
CPU: 65c (3.7GHz)
GPU: 80c (1825MHz)
GPU Fan Speed: 80%

Test on load (Supersition Benchmark Extreme Preset)
CPU: 46c
GPU: 79c (1825MHz)
GPU Fan Speed: 79%

It seems by opting for new ATX case, I was able to shave off 3c on load but at least this time, it can run on boost clock without it downclock itself on thermal limit. I hope this would be enough until I bought better case fans later on down the road

P/s: thanks everyone for helping and provide suggestion for my problem. Really appreciate it.

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QUOTE(flagstar @ Apr 3 2019, 02:41 PM)
In the end, I opted for new case now. I bought Thermaltake Versa H27 TG ATX Case (same brand but eh, I like its build for the price), reuse all the case fans from previous case with 3 front intake, 1 rear exhaust and 1 top exhaust.

Tested case under idle
CPU: 40c (3.2GHz)
GPU: 42c (400MHz)
GPU Fan speed: 50%

Tested on load (MHW Very high preset)
CPU: 65c (3.7GHz)
GPU: 80c (1825MHz)
GPU Fan Speed: 80%

Test on load (Supersition Benchmark Extreme Preset)
CPU: 46c
GPU: 79c (1825MHz)
GPU Fan Speed: 79%

It seems by opting for new ATX case, I was able to shave off 3c on load but at least this time, it can run on boost clock without it downclock itself on thermal limit. I hope this would be enough until I bought better case fans later on down the road

P/s: thanks everyone for helping and provide suggestion for my problem. Really appreciate it.
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That's a pretty good case smile.gif When you do upgrade those fans, those frontal intake fans should be your primary target. And if your current front intake fans are powered directly by your motherboard, it would be better to adjust the min speed higher (I have mine set at 80% mid temp speed,as long as it doesn't get too noisy) through bios for the meantime till you've upgraded those fans. Congrats on your new case btw tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Steve Lum @ Apr 3 2019, 04:01 PM)
That's a pretty good case smile.gif When you do upgrade those fans, those frontal intake fans should be your primary target. And if your current front intake fans are powered directly by your motherboard, it would be better to adjust the min speed higher (I have mine set at 80% mid temp speed,as long as it doesn't get too noisy) through bios for the meantime till you've upgraded those fans. Congrats on your new case btw tongue.gif
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The seller I go when I bought those case do recommend me to get the TT pure fan pack for like rm239 and he said it's a good fan to opt for but I still hold on from buying it yet. Need more advice for better case fans. Also can't find noctua fans at lowyat, probably need to survey more shops later.

All those front intake fan and top exhaust fan were wired to a 3-pin splitter to molex so can't really control much but low and high switch which I assume is 5v/12v switch
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QUOTE(flagstar @ Apr 3 2019, 11:23 PM)
The seller I go when I bought those case do recommend me to get the TT pure fan pack for like rm239 and he said it's a good fan to opt for but I still hold on from buying it yet. Need more advice for better case fans. Also can't find noctua fans at lowyat, probably need to survey more shops later.

All those front intake fan and top exhaust fan were wired to a 3-pin splitter to molex so can't really control much but low and high switch which I assume is 5v/12v switch
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Real man only use Delta/San Ace, minimum 4 ampere cool2.gif
The fan will cool the whole the whole room and including you rclxms.gif

Jokes aside, My favorite definitely is Nidec Servo Gentle Typhoon 1850/2150 version.
It wont scream even if running at max speed, low start up voltage if i recall correctly, almost behaves like a PWM fan.
Try or grab one if you can.

2. NoiseBlocker M12p
3. San Ace, but all these fans are difficult to acquire.

You can get an idea from here http://www.silentpcreview.com/section12.html

As for noctua, most of them are silent oriented pc fans, you will want the IndustrialPPC version as they run much faster.
Get a high speed fan with pwm support if possible, most 3 pins high speed fan will drive you crazy.
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QUOTE(flagstar @ Apr 3 2019, 11:23 PM)
The seller I go when I bought those case do recommend me to get the TT pure fan pack for like rm239 and he said it's a good fan to opt for but I still hold on from buying it yet. Need more advice for better case fans. Also can't find noctua fans at lowyat, probably need to survey more shops later.

All those front intake fan and top exhaust fan were wired to a 3-pin splitter to molex so can't really control much but low and high switch which I assume is 5v/12v switch
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I've bought my noctua fans from lelong website. Noctuas are well known for their performance and 6 years warranty. And I use them for my watercooling radiators since they're really quiet at full speed and has high static pressure. But like what 1024kbps mentioned, Noctua Industrial PPC would be a beast for airflow. Found one here . Only found out they existed after I bought my current Noctua fans sad.gif And for that TT fans, they're more priced towards aesthetic than performance for it's RGB lighting. Which you could rather go for Corsair LL fans and place them at the top
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An example of my setup just for reference. It's not great but it will do laugh.gif It's a pretty old case so it has no side glass but the size of it is really good for upgrades and airflow.
Front: CM Megaflow 200mm& Sickleflow (Air-In)
Side Upper: Corsair SP120 x 2 for GPU airflow (Air-In)
Side Lower: CM sickleflow x2 (bottom) (Air-In) from outside of case into Noctua NF-F12 x2 into radiator (air-push) and out through radiator by CM Xtraflo x2 (air-pull& Air-Out)
Top: Corsair LL120 x3 (Air-Out)
Rear: Corsair AF140 (Air-Out)
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Don't judge sad.gif I have weird fans obsession and having empty fan slots looks weird haha

A recommended fans setup for your case could be
Front: 3x Noctua Industrial PPC 120
Top: 3x Corsair LL120
Rear: 1x Noctua Industrial PPC (for performance) or 1x Corsair AF120 (performance with fixed LED light and on budget) or 1x Corsair LL120 (to complete ur RGB sweat.gif )

I'm not a pro however, so looking for certain comparison or reviews online would be great. Hope I helped



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