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GambitFire
post Dec 24 2023, 02:51 PM

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I think insurance companies better start auditing this people who very minor things get admitted in hospital..last week I was in ampang puteri visiting a relative and the lady next door was admitted just for fever and cough.

I ask the nurse, demam also boleh admitted ke and she said boleh since insurance bayar. She was admitted for 6 days lol.so I know this people are the one causing premiums to skyrocket.. other people paying for them to be admitted easily.

By right those who claim alot should see their premiums being increased more than those who rarely claim..ini mcm those who barely use also kena increase..damn horrible system

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post Dec 24 2023, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(GambitFire @ Dec 24 2023, 02:51 PM)
I think insurance companies better start auditing this people who very minor things get admitted in hospital..last week I was in ampang puteri visiting a relative and the lady next door was admitted just for fever and cough.

I ask the nurse, demam also boleh admitted ke and she said boleh since insurance bayar. She was admitted for 6 days lol.so I know this people are the one causing premiums to skyrocket.. other people paying for them to be admitted easily.

By right those who claim alot should see their premiums being increased more than those who rarely claim..ini mcm those who barely use also kena increase..damn horrible system
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Agreed.

Further, the hospital also misuses the insurance. If they know you are covered and paid by medical card, your costs are not same.

We should also highlight this to bank negara.
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post Dec 24 2023, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(GambitFire @ Dec 24 2023, 02:51 PM)
I think insurance companies better start auditing this people who very minor things get admitted in hospital..last week I was in ampang puteri visiting a relative and the lady next door was admitted just for fever and cough.

I ask the nurse, demam also boleh admitted ke and she said boleh since insurance bayar. She was admitted for 6 days lol.so I know this people are the one causing premiums to skyrocket.. other people paying for them to be admitted easily.

By right those who claim alot should see their premiums being increased more than those who rarely claim..ini mcm those who barely use also kena increase..damn horrible system
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Best way is to have a NCD-like mechanism for medical insurance. Will dissuade people from simply abusing the system to some extent.
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post Dec 24 2023, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(GambitFire @ Dec 24 2023, 02:51 PM)
I think insurance companies better start auditing this people who very minor things get admitted in hospital..last week I was in ampang puteri visiting a relative and the lady next door was admitted just for fever and cough.

I ask the nurse, demam also boleh admitted ke and she said boleh since insurance bayar. She was admitted for 6 days lol.so I know this people are the one causing premiums to skyrocket.. other people paying for them to be admitted easily.

By right those who claim alot should see their premiums being increased more than those who rarely claim..ini mcm those who barely use also kena increase..damn horrible system
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That's why If you want to get back money from your insurance, only way is admit for everything. Simple fever, cough also admit. No other way. Haha...
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post Dec 24 2023, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Dec 23 2023, 08:06 PM)
Already got such products now. But benefits for medical products not as comprehensive as products sold via agents.

Forced by BNM.

Those looking for life protection can start looking online first though. Simple term life product can really just get it online. Dont need too much explanation from someone else.

i bought 500k term life protection from etiqa online. Cheap cheap.
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Talking about self buying online, i browsed thru sunlife, quoted rm129/mth for rm500k coverage life insurance for 40 yo. Not sure if this is cheap.
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post Dec 24 2023, 06:20 PM

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As per the titled of this thread, ... medical insurance premiums will and can be subjected to increases.
So beware, if you are just focusing of buying insurance based on "cheapest" quoted price

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post Dec 24 2023, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Dec 24 2023, 06:10 PM)
Talking about self buying online, i browsed thru sunlife, quoted rm129/mth for rm500k coverage life insurance for 40 yo. Not sure if this is cheap.
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That's only for life insurance. So many choice. Deartime design insurance especially for B40.

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post Dec 24 2023, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Dec 24 2023, 06:10 PM)
Talking about self buying online, i browsed thru sunlife, quoted rm129/mth for rm500k coverage life insurance for 40 yo. Not sure if this is cheap.
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Ermm life and medical x tau differentiate?
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post Dec 24 2023, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Dec 24 2023, 07:03 PM)
Ermm life and medical x tau differentiate?
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Kan i already wrote life insurance. Perhaps i am out of topics shld focus on medical card only.
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post Dec 24 2023, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Dec 24 2023, 07:34 PM)
Kan i already wrote life insurance. Perhaps i am out of topics shld focus on medical card only.
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the thread name is already called medical insurance....

not about life insurance.
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post Dec 24 2023, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Dec 24 2023, 07:34 PM)
Kan i already wrote life insurance. Perhaps i am out of topics shld focus on medical card only.
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how much is your premium?
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post Dec 25 2023, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Dec 24 2023, 09:03 PM)
how much is your premium?
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500k for rm129

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post Dec 25 2023, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(SitiNorhaliza1970 @ Dec 24 2023, 02:17 PM)
Life protection is like PA right? how much you pay per month?
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Life insurance means if you die, the insurance company pay your family money.

PA is personal accident. Only pay if you kena accident. If die or kena illness not related.

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 24 2023, 02:40 PM)
All insurance with ILP comes with extra baggage of poor investment returns which cause you to always have to increase your premium.
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While you are not wrong, but the MAIN reason is still medical inflation

QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Dec 24 2023, 06:10 PM)
Talking about self buying online, i browsed thru sunlife, quoted rm129/mth for rm500k coverage life insurance for 40 yo. Not sure if this is cheap.
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Compare few companies, then you know. The thing about buying online is, you serve yourself. That includes comparing it yourself.
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post May 21 2024, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 23 2023, 09:32 PM)
Baru 1 year. Every year will increase because of age. I don't have sustainability issue and don't have investment portion where if investment not performing, I need to pay more.
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But standalone don’t hv guaranteed renewal ?
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post May 22 2024, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(rebeka @ May 21 2024, 09:49 PM)
But standalone don’t hv guaranteed renewal ?
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Nowadays it's guaranteed renewal unlike olden days. Only cannot buy new insurance.

Why are you necro old thread?

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post May 22 2024, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 22 2024, 12:38 PM)
Nowadays it's guaranteed renewal unlike olden days. Only cannot buy new insurance.

Why are you necro old thread?
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Need to buy 1 w annual limit at least 1mil coz future value will be 100k+ 20-30 years later ? ( n No lifetime limit )
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post May 22 2024, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(rebeka @ May 22 2024, 04:48 PM)
Need to buy 1 w annual limit at least 1mil coz future value will be 100k+ 20-30 years later ? ( n No lifetime limit )
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Now all medical card is annual limit. No more lifetime limit. Every year the annual limit will renew and you get new annual limit.

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post May 22 2024, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(rebeka @ May 22 2024, 04:48 PM)
Need to buy 1 w annual limit at least 1mil coz future value will be 100k+ 20-30 years later ? ( n No lifetime limit )
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just be prepared to factor in the increase in the medical card premium as one ages... like really be prepared for this.

who knows... by the time everyone in the cohort reaches say 80 years old, the pool will be filled with people of same risks and conditions pretty much.


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post Nov 26 2024, 07:47 PM

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Just be prepared. ..this is not suddenly as titled in the thread heading.

Medical insurance premiums reportedly set for 40-70% rise
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26 Nov 2024,

Medical insurance premiums are expected to rise by 40-70% next year,

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...for-40-70-rise/


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post Nov 26 2024, 07:53 PM

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The insurance companies said because of medical inflation & cost... Whatever...

But they keep getting profit by the multi million or even billions per year...

But the client premium keep increasing y-o-y

When initially sign contract, should be covered till end... Not every year keep increasing

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