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WhitE LighteR
post Jul 23 2019, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(preducer @ Jul 23 2019, 10:55 PM)
Dont just put the graph, put the link to the article

https://www.stashaway.my/r/stashaway-performance-2-years
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thx for the article. interesting read
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post Sep 10 2019, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(-CoupeFanatic- @ Sep 10 2019, 12:33 PM)
I am not sure why gold is considered a safe investment in stashaway.

only low risk portfolios have gold whereas high risk ones don't have gold or bonds, at all.
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Gold is historical a safe haven asset. It just is. Some people do question why since gold is a non yielding investment, but sometimes I think things just have value because human believe it has value. Like Bitcoin.
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post Jun 7 2020, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(INTEGRITYXXXXX @ Jun 6 2020, 09:40 PM)
Method 1
by putting the same amount of money into both SA and ASM or (same proportion of money between the SA & ASM) & in same frequency interval, then compare. Example:
- same amount of money: put 1k into SA; 1k ASM monthly; after ASM announce dividend, u compare the gain on 1/april
- same proportion of money (fixed amount monthly): put 500 SA; 1.5k ASM; after ASM announce dividend, u compare the gain

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Method 2
U can record down the amount u put in SA over a certain period of time, example:
May 2019 (800)
July 2019 (1200)
Sept 2019 (1300)
Nov 2019 (650)
jan 2020 (350)
march 2020 (750)
April ASM 2020 dividend 4.25%

800 (4.25%*10/12) + 1200 (4.25%*8/12) + 1300 (4.25%*6/12) + 650 (4.25%*4/12) + 350 (4.25%*2/12) + 750 (4.25%*0/12)
= 28.3 + 34 + 27.6 + 9.2 + 2.5
= 101.6
If the same amount u put in SA u have been putting into ASM1, your gain will be RM101.60 in april 2020
If u put into Stashaway, then u compare your gain in SA with this figure.
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The method 2 is what kind of calculation is that?
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post Jun 9 2020, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jun 8 2020, 09:03 PM)
Major error in May jobs report made the official unemployment rate look 3% lower than it is, Bureau of Labor Statistics admits
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The market just close a blind eye to this. They even admit the "mistake" happened in April as well. I think it's not a mistake after all. It's purposely one. Haha
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post Jul 10 2020, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 10 2020, 09:37 AM)
1m performance for 36%

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*No DCA since re-optimization started.
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seems china tech is the only out performing fund
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post Jul 10 2020, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(responsible poster @ Jul 10 2020, 01:14 PM)
Should be coming soon.

The Asia basket of ETFs in stashaway is currently at a 2 year high lol

US ETFs macam sesat
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US facing a lot of headwind. But they have almighty Fed buying.
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post Jul 10 2020, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(B500 @ Jul 10 2020, 07:21 PM)
It's not all bad. The chinese govt doesn't want a repeat of the previous bubble. They want a steady bull market instead.
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china retail investor is the biggest group of investor in the market if i not mistaken. dont underestimate human greed.
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post Jul 10 2020, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 10 2020, 07:30 PM)
thumbsup.gif
from that article....
"One retail investor said she made the most of Friday’s losses to load up on more shares.

“It’s still just the middle of the rally,” said 30-year-old Jess Huang, who works at a state-owned enterprise in Beijing."

"...........authorities appear keen to engineer a steady bull market rather than a repeat of the bubble that ended in a $5 trillion crash five years ago."....
engineer a steady bull market....thus got more to go after this pull back ?? bruce.gif
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middle of the rally laugh.gif

she got some crystal ball that can see future one brows.gif
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post Jul 16 2020, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jul 16 2020, 11:09 PM)
Seems like bloodbath tomorrow
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Good. Not healthy keep going up
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post Jul 19 2020, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 19 2020, 09:23 AM)
er.. "professionals" that are threatened by SA?
This we know why mad lor

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"professionals" with invested $ in many vehicle for many years, that speaks with their own invested $?
This is too funny if he mad - just because people like me are not working as financial planners doesnt mean we dont know squat about money management, investments & estate planning.

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something else?
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Exactly. Not means you have a paper qualification makes you a good investor. I've seen some shitty investment advise from these professional that just toe the line n lead people into a low return, high fees investment. No better than salesman really.

Those non professional investors that dare to put their own money where their mouth is. That is the one I most respect.

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post Jul 19 2020, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Jul 19 2020, 11:29 AM)
Balance is the key word. When US ETF is available to the Malaysian market next year, there should be a shake up in the wealth management industry.

Best,
Jiansheng
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I would be damn happy if this is really become a reality. I think the local UT companies will move heaven and earth to block this from happening. Low fees will totally kill all of their business model. Most Malaysia UT underperformed the market. If someone can offer an alternative index tracker with low fees n no need robo advisory. Even SA also will be affected I think. I think I read somewhere in the US for every 10k invested in index tracker ETF blackrock only charge an average of 17 USD per year for fees.
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post Jul 20 2020, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(encikbuta @ Jul 20 2020, 02:18 PM)
This 'research' done in 2016 so may be a bit outdated ler. But it kinda challenged my thinking that most actively managed mutual funds under perform the market (index). I guess it's true for USA but things looks a bit different in Malaysia. Wish someone would renew this research for year 2020, haha.

Link: https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/invest_ma..._Performing.jsp
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i wont read too much into the article. I wont be surprise for malaysia the UT outperform the ETF. KLCI for a very long time underperforming. I believe the same cannot be said for US market index. So their ETF tends to outperform the UT counterpart especially when both performs equally and the annual fees starts to eat into UT NAV
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post Jul 20 2020, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ Jul 20 2020, 09:04 PM)
Uncle this is not money game.
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Lolz
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post Jul 21 2020, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jul 21 2020, 10:21 AM)
Higher risks doesn't always mean higher returns. It's up to each individual risk preference.
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how does individual risk preference make a higher risk portfolio have lower return?
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post Jul 21 2020, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(XweienX @ Jul 21 2020, 11:10 AM)
noooooooo, definitely not haha. FS is a P2P lending platform, means put money inside sure lose money kekekeke
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Hahahaha...
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post Jul 21 2020, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 21 2020, 02:20 PM)
i'll help U
think - buy high now & hope higher?
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buy low after a 30% down and hold on for dear life?
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also, can hold on for dear life without emergency fund?
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can't zzz?

ohmm... clarity...
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with samy this shouldnt even be a consideration i feel. else it defeats the purpose of the robo advisor.
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post Jul 21 2020, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 21 2020, 02:45 PM)
he says he itchy want to use his emergency fund in ASB nowadays ma

thus in context - now? when it is much higher than mid-end Mar?
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can zzz or not, without security blanket of emergency funds safe & sound in ASB's magical fixed-price thinggy?
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if talking about market timing in general, the mindset is really quite amusing to see.

when market is low, usually ppl will wonder if i buy now and go lower how?

but when is high, ppl will wonder, maybe buy now will earn more, if dont invest now later go higher how?

when market is rallying everyday, more n more ppl getting fomo everywhere.

but of course being in samy thread, all this questions i think should not even be ask. if the money serve a purpose for emergency fund, and scared to lose it, he should just leave it in ASB. As you u say la. It has a magic price thinggy. laugh.gif
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post Jul 23 2020, 12:05 PM

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When in an uptrend everyone also YOLO... laugh.gif
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post Jul 23 2020, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(xianmeng @ Jul 23 2020, 12:24 PM)
Wish everyone joined during March. Probably shitting bricks seeing their SA drop
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Ya lo. When it's down everyone shit brix.

QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 23 2020, 12:26 PM)
When it is downward, everybody will runaway because it could be catching a falling knife.
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Exactly
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post Jul 23 2020, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Jul 23 2020, 09:51 PM)
To make as much money as I can with little effort as possible lmao
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Lolz.

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