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post Jun 16 2020, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(encikbuta @ Jun 15 2020, 08:17 AM)
Same here! I park my funds in RHB Cash Management (in FSM) which gives similar returns. So unless, parking my funds in StashAway Simple means i can 'immediate' top up my regular StashAway funds from there, no point having 2 parking accounts.

but still, StashAway Simple is a good avenue if one is looking for something better than FD.
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If you park funds in RHB cash management (in FSM), will have to wait a few days before you can use the $ to buy funds in FSM right? Its because of this, that my remaining $ in FSM is not in RHB cash management, but then I can use the $ immediately to buy FSM funds.

QUOTE(encikbuta @ Jun 16 2020, 10:00 PM)
Invested since July 2019 in 36% highest risk portfolio:
TWR: 5.7%
MWR: 27.3%
ROI: 7.6%

The MWR quite inflated coz starting from Feb 2020, I decided to quit P2P Lending and gradually transfer all the repayments to StashAway. Ngam ngam market crashed. So you can say I 'accidentally' timed the market.
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Where you see the ROI?

QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 16 2020, 04:35 PM)
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post Jun 19 2020, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jun 17 2020, 10:28 AM)
This is my current screenshot for the current asset allocation. I rejected the optimisation and still exposed around 70++% to US stock market

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You are lucky then. I read from here that ultimately you have to accept because it makes no economical sense for SA to maintain the 'old' settings/portfolio'. That's why I accepted the optimisation. Sigh! Should have wrote to SA and asked for confirmation.
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post Jun 19 2020, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Jun 18 2020, 11:50 PM)
IMO, it depends on market,
there are lot people tend to favor ETF over mutual fund and put mutual fund in a position that doesn't worth investing
but in fact, mutual fund is not that bad IF
you know how to pick on the right fund (do your due diligence on the fund's past management performance  cool2.gif  )

i would take the funds in Malaysia that i familiar with, as example

For US market, IMO ETF is better, I dont think there is any Malaysia fund that investing in US market, which get better return than ETF

For MY market, since Malaysia ETF volume is soooo low, yeah that's why you have Eastspring Small Cap funds which get up to 10+% annual return rate if u invested 10 years ago, I would say the result is pretty good.

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/fsmone/fun...-Small-Cap-Fund
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For China, previously I was eyeing on a Greater China fund which IMO the performance is quite impressive these few years
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/fsm/funds/...China-P-Acc-SGD

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thou not apple to apple comparison, but if solely looking at performance, it is performing better than KWEB
KWEB as of date 5-Y annualized return is 6.12% (source), UBS greater china funds 5 years annualized returns is around 12%
KWEB as of date 3-Y annualized return is 4.80%, UBS greater china funds 3 years annualized returns is around 16-17%

The problems of mutual funds are
1) there are too many funds to be selected, not everyone know how to pick and research for good funds
    - therefore the reason why these years Robo is taking up the market, no research required, index based, easy peasy
2) none-knowledgeable agents,who dont care if u earn, dunno how to pick good fund for u either
    - therefore we have lots of funds investor complain their funds are not performing (how to expect performing when your funds aint good fund in the first place)
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Thanks for the info. UBS (Lux) Equity Fund-Greater China P Acc Sgd, the expense ratio is high at 2.4%. With the platform fee of around 0.35% pa, the charges would be around 2.75% just to BE. sweat.gif
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post Jun 20 2020, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jun 20 2020, 02:38 AM)
I see no problem for XLY, XLV and IJR since those are part of the bulk of other portfolio. What i can see as well , they are no longer executing any buy for XLE(at least for my case), and almost 20% of fresh fund was not allocated to any investment (in cash) for 2-3days after confirmation on the deposit. Although 80% of the fresh fund is executed on day 1 itself.

Btw, this is latest deposit. 80++% allocated to US market.

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I see.

QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jun 20 2020, 11:24 AM)
That is for my second portfolio which is at 36% risk as well, i am trying to adjust my exposure to certain market, since we are not allowed to do so as the target weightage is fixed by SA. So my workaround is multiple portfolio.
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Your 2nd portfolio is it with optimization? If no optimization, then if both portfolios at 36% risk, wouldn't they be investing in exactly the same things?
I thought all portfolios either have to be with optimization or both without optimization?
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post Jun 21 2020, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jun 21 2020, 04:49 AM)
This is how i workaround the systrn; no auto optimization, whenever there is a reoptimization suggested by SA, i will review and if i dont like it, then reject it. Afterward create another portfolio ,if u create another new portofolio after the recommendation of reoptimization,then it will follow the new one(again only for the new portofolio). The original portfolio stays the same.

And then if you want to adjust exposure to this newer portfolio you can just transfer between the portfolio, basically transfer within SA.
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Wow. Thanks. Unfortunately, I can't follow what you did as I already agreed to the reoptimization email. sad.gif
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post Jun 22 2020, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(marineer @ Jun 21 2020, 06:30 PM)
StashAway need above 90% to unlock the riskier index?

I scored 75% in 2 hrs 🤣, hope they accept my result.
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Highest risk is 36% right? I didn't do any quiz nor was asked to do any quiz to have the 36% portfolio. Am I missing something?
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post Jun 22 2020, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 22 2020, 08:34 AM)
SA thinks you are rich enough so no need quiz
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No lah.
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post Sep 12 2020, 02:26 AM

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Haven't invested in Simple yet. My question is for those that have invested before the drop in US market (that happen the last week and up till now), has the Simple investment shrink or still the same (if excluding the dividends)?

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post Sep 12 2020, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Sep 12 2020, 03:56 AM)
Since Simple underlying is just Eastsprings Islamic income funds
you can get the answer by searching the fund performance move in YTD on FSM

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Thanks. Also found this on bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/PRUISIN:MK
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post Sep 13 2020, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Sep 12 2020, 03:53 PM)
Bloomberg ones should be NAV (price) chart, not a performance movement chart

NAV price chart will tend to have a ZigZag pattern because of the income distribution
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Yeah. Thanks
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post Sep 21 2020, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 21 2020, 02:17 AM)
since SA is lacking transparency without disclosing their AUM, what gives you the confidence to continue with SA especially having 5 figures?
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QUOTE(TheEquatorian @ Sep 21 2020, 02:54 AM)
5 figures isn’t confidence from my end, I see it as a gamble I am willing to loose. 6 figures would be confidence.

More users need to ask the pertinent question of AUM. As long as SA does not disclose it, I doubt investors will maintain 6 figure funds with them.

Take Moneyfarm as an example:

https://www.businessinsider.com/robo-adviso...017-8?r=US&IR=T

Based on what they said in 2017 above and reality in 2020 below (they still disclose AUM though unlike SA)

https://citywire.co.uk/wealth-manager/news/...m-loss/a1396193
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Thanks. Was hoping to build up my SA over time. But now reading this, have to remember to limit $ amount
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post Sep 21 2020, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(TheEquatorian @ Sep 21 2020, 02:12 PM)
I like their fin-community engagement and user interface. It is one of a kind in Malaysia. But it is important that they disclose their AUM for the users to make fact based choices.

I would not be interested to put in 6 figures if it turned out that the average ”active” user (not just people signed up) has lower 5 figure AUM (1xxxx)
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Yeah, understand
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post Oct 3 2020, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(necrox77 @ Oct 1 2020, 11:01 PM)
Just sharing the good analysis for timing market vs time in market DCA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ8QXxcToYs&t=65s
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Thanks. Good video
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post Oct 31 2020, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Oct 29 2020, 06:36 PM)
May want to consider TradeStation Global (USD 0.007 per Share, min. ~USD 1.5 commission per trade or ) if you hasn't invested via FSM SG route yet. I'm not sure about their SG counterparts but I've had my fair share of experience via FSM HK for US stocks.

I started my first ETF via FSM HK as well (I was in Hong Kong so was able to open HK account rather than SG), and while I deemed the brokerage fee to be "reasonable", but it is crazy when you compare to the likes of TradeStation Global (and thankfully I only bought 1 US stock so far sweat.gif).
1. I forgot the exact % that they charge, but my transaction worth US$730 for 20 units x 35.36usd per unit costed me USD$22.80 USD in fees via FSM HK. Via IBKR it will cost me ONLY US$1.50.
2. Dividend Handling Charges - HK has it, pretty sure SG have it too (I hope I am wroing, check with them.). HK charges me US$2.50 for each dividend received, so far most of my dividend receives (after 30% US withholding tax) arrives around ~US$2.6 to US$3.1; every dividend FSMHK will take US$2.5 nett. So far I have received 3 dividend and they're worth nothing (based on my calculations, I only received ~11% actuals after withholding and FSM fees)
So not to hijack this thread - you can find out more here: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4843925/
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FSM Singapore charges dividend handling fees for USA stocks. Not worth it.


QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Oct 29 2020, 09:14 PM)
Hi there, first of all - thanks alot for sharing your experience!

I know it sounds stupid but I personally can't cope with my assets being handled by IBKR - that is not backed by US government (FDIC) if I reckon. I know it's backed by other authorities but it really is just my personal preference.

As far as I know about FSMOne (SG), I thought the fee was USD 9 per transaction, yours was 35.36 per unit?! That's almost as much as local banks' fee!

TD Ameritrade (which is FDIC backed) just recently replied my application for further documentation - hopefully things are closing in and I'm able to get approved in the short time - the only fee here is probably the Wire Transfer fee from MYR to USD (local bank to Wells Fargo to TD Ameritrade).

That said, I've also opened IBKR simultaneously (yet to fund it), and have been approved, just need to fund to start trading. Minimum balance was USD 10,000 or something (iirc, forgive me)? And there's inactivity fee right? That's quite hefty for a small capital retail investor like me  cry.gif

Happy to hear your thoughts and correct me for my errors above.

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What kind of further documentation is TD Ameritrade asking? Still debating whether to open one. Previously had the USA TD but was asked to close when they opened the Singapore branch. Never got round to opening the Sg TD Ameritrade
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Oct 31 2020, 06:55 PM)
Thanks! This confirms my suspicion laugh.gif after all they are affiliates. Had the same face-palm moment when I found out from my HK statements

I have moved most (if not all) my foreign funds to IBKR (TSG), leaving only the stocks / funds which are in red sea sweat.gif

Unfortunately I'm stuck with them until either I can travel (they only allow stock transfer with physical presence + signatory), or I sell at loss (and incur fees again) then buy back the shares from my IBKR (TSG) account sweat.gif
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Welcome. Have not done IBKR yet. If I do, likely it won't be soon. Many years ago, I opened TOS (TD Ameritrade) instead of IB (Interactive Brokers) despite IB being much cheaper mainly due to :

1) Service was bad. If there was any problems with your trades, its not easy to get them to solve. Read many horror stories. Since I'm in Malaysia, it makes it even more difficult if something were to go wrong

2) Tradestation was not easy to learn and I'm not IT savvy. TOS on the other hand was much simpler and service was way better.

Is tradestation easy to learn/use now?

Until now, I still have this phobia.
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Oct 31 2020, 07:33 PM)
I didn't touch their "pro" desktop application. Using Web-app and also Mobile-app of IBKR, both are very user friendly and I didn't even bother to touch the desktop app (not user friendly for average investors, maybe more for institutional users)
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Thanks. Useful info.

IB back then was the go to for professional traders. Those that trade often and big $ amount. I think they charged about a $1 per trade then vs others which ranged from $5-$10. Nowadays, even small retailers can get $0 commission. How times have changed. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Ziet Inv @ Oct 31 2020, 08:29 PM)
Nothing much that you can't provide really.

If you not qualified to complete the Customer Account Review (CAR) then need to take SGX online quiz and just screenshot the result (entire process takes 30 mins if you copy online blog answer).

Additionally just confirming a few personal and financial details, correcting tax numbers which I filled in wrongly and that's all.

However that said, I'm back to exploring my IBKR account ( which is ready), on a second thought I might be using IBKR right now - 0 inactivity fee as long as net worth USD 1000 above at all time - plus very cheap FOREX/transfer fee at spot rate.

I've already funded my CIMB SG account which I just opened today, waiting for activation code etc.

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post Apr 26 2023, 09:59 AM

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Really need help pls. Thanks

1) For Stashaway portfolio, do we have to declare the dividends in the BE tax form? The dividends are automatically changed /reinvested as increased portfolio value


2) If have to declare :
2a)is it under "tax exempt income from sources outside Malaysia received in Malaysia" ?
2b) put country as USA?
2c) or where to put it in the form?

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post Apr 27 2023, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(batman1172 @ Apr 26 2023, 08:51 PM)
as I know dividend no tax even if repatriate back to Malaysia.
if I re invest sure no tax cause the dividend was earned overseas and never bring back to Malaysia. also depends which country as Malaysia may have DTA with them.
this is true until 2026 for individuals.
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batman1172 Thanks. Guess I got confused because Stashaway is incorporated in Malaysia (at least for my Stashaway Malaysia account). That's why I keep thinking (unlike overseas brokerage where clearly $ is sitting outside Malaysia) that maybe $/dividend is already considered received in Malaysia even though its automatically invested into the portfolio.

With regards to 'dividend no tax', I think it depends. For Malaysia stocks, dividend is not taxable but for foreign (stocks and maybe ETFs), it may be taxable (looking at the BE form which ask for all those breakdown of foreign source income including dividends) ie maybe declare it and afterwards try to claim tax credit (up till yr 2026).

I think LHDN differentiates between those unit trusts (provided by banks and FSM) vs foreign ETFs and funds (provided by robo-advisors such as Stashaway). What are your thoughts?
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post Sep 19 2023, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(mbbvic @ Aug 18 2023, 06:39 PM)
anyone using stashaway to buy US T-Bill or US Govt bond?
Hows the return like?
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QUOTE(honsiong @ Aug 25 2023, 11:11 PM)
Bond ETFs have 0% WHT previously. So usually we kena 30% first, then the October next year, we get the refunds.

Now US wanna tax distributions from US-listed bond ETFs, regardless of which countries the coupons are paid out of. So they switch to Europe/UK traded UCITS ETFs.

However this can mean lack of liquidity, for instance BB3M macam got < USD 100m fund size.
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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Aug 26 2023, 01:29 AM)
IBKR should not be affected because of their brokerage incorporated in the US while Stashaway is using Saxo which doesn’t have any incorporation in US and doesn’t hold any brokerage license in the US hence IRS is gunning for them because the new rules in place for the global minimum tax

So in future always make sure that your broker has a brokerage license in US in order for less headaches particularly with WHT otherwise just buy LSE or Irish domiciled holdings
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Thanks for info.

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