QUOTE(zstan @ Nov 18 2021, 04:01 PM)
i remember i can't sleep for 2 days when i burn 4k overnight in forex trade (using leverage).
now immune ady if see negative in my investments, especially those self invested DIY kind of.
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Nov 18 2021, 06:02 PM
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Nov 30 2021, 11:56 AM
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Dec 1 2021, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Nov 30 2021, 03:13 PM) i refer to your attachment, i find this very contradicting, or is it just me? (please refer to the yellow highlighted as snipped below.![]() Edit: I re-read again and now i understand already. It means you should buy at dip of a good stock, it's an opportunity to load up on bargains. Not contradictory. it is supporting/complementing its previous statement. This post has been edited by tehoice: Dec 1 2021, 09:34 AM |
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Dec 1 2021, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 1 2021, 10:06 AM) Yes buy more to average down, if that is what you meant he quoted i was speed reading previously, separating the 2 sentences altogether.Where is the contradictory to its previous statement? I read the "never buy more" (underlined statement). and then subsequently, it's a good opportunity to load up more. so yea, my bad for not reading it properly. MUM liked this post
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Dec 1 2021, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Dec 1 2021, 11:29 AM) investing is always an exercise in contradictions, careful when others are greedy, greedy when others are careful. and heart. whether your heart can take it or not. very important too....Yin yang defensive vs offensive Growth vs value TA vs FA Key is your own gut and stomach. lee82gx liked this post
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Dec 1 2021, 03:43 PM
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Dec 2 2021, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Dec 2 2021, 08:33 AM) well, everybody can be a genius in a bull market. generally we have been experience some bull, mini bull or minor bull over the past months in the global market.I'm more interested to see how will it turn out when the real bear market comes. Risk managing is equally important as people chase for promising returns. Edit: above is just strictly my own view point. This post has been edited by tehoice: Dec 2 2021, 09:40 AM |
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Dec 2 2021, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(sgh @ Dec 2 2021, 11:40 AM) I am not sure how old you are but if you like me have experienced 1998 financial crisis, 2008 lehman brother crisis and now 2019 Covid crisis. I agree with your statement. In a bull market every fund managers and investors are genius. Almost all investment turn green color fast. But it is in a bear market you can see who are the skillful fund managers and investors. In a bear market, funds that drop the lowest are far and few but if exist it really show the skills of the fund manager and investor. That is, we track who lose the least and for the rare gem that can turn green color in a bear market wow triple bonus treat! I am not old enough to suffer the impact from 1998 and 2008 subprime crisis, but definitely this covid yes, we got hit one way or another.In a bear market we don't know when is the lowest point which is why while DCA remove emotion and continue to invest, I take a slightly different step. Bear market is very scary the price can keep dropping for months without end. So for me I come out with my own style not really accurate but just to share. Others may disagree that is ok. Forum is for sharing. After 2-3 months of price dropping, I do a DCA (smaller than usual monthly DCA amount) and monitor. That is instead of DCA every month I just change it to DCA every 2-3 months with smaller DCA amount. The toughest part is price can go up and down so how to know it is a bear market coming? The price can drop for 1 week and then rebound next week. I am not trained as a financial analyst etc where they got those TA etc analysis to do very in-depth tracking. For me layman just read more world news and surf more investment related forums to feel the investors sentiment. Yes investor sentiment cannot be ignored this I need to emphasize as it defy all logic but it is true in reality and I kena a few times before! PS I actually wanted to ask is DCA definition strictly a monthly affair as I read in so many articles. weekly, fortnightly, 2 months, 3 months, 6 months one time is not defined as DCA? Hmmm I am of the opinion that, we can just DCA at our own comfortable pace, be it in amount, frequency, time gap, etc. there's no hard and fast rule. All I think we should live up to stashaway's definition which is invest and just stash away without the need of micro-managing it (not like we can manage anything anyway in SAMY). unless they go DIY. |
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Dec 2 2021, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(honsiong @ Dec 2 2021, 06:00 PM) Stashaway sucks, cannot see market downturns coming. ERRA is supposed to be like Palantir, predict the future, and get us the best return. only if we can really predict the future.i learnt one meaningful sentence lately, 不输就是赢。 means, "you win, if you don't lose your capital". In short, managing risks is important to me, yes i know ppl will counter argue with opportunity costs, etc etc. just keep with your own plan if you trust yourself, in making such financial decision. Quazacolt liked this post
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Dec 7 2021, 02:05 PM
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Dec 7 2021, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Dec 7 2021, 12:17 PM) Finally saw some updates to my graph after waiting for a few days. Go up a few bucks lol. a little bit to add on the FSI that you bring up.Question: Will stashaway be affected by FSI tax starting next year? If we are to sell? Or we have to declare in income tax efilling ourselves? Since Stashaway only invest in foreign stocks and bonds? Hate this gov for imposing FSI tax to individuals also. Like we normal people not poor enough now coming for our investments. Pls tax those rich ppl la.. We normal ppl few k also want come after us wtf? 🤬😡 not like we transferring few millions back to malaysia pun. Also no brain this FSI.. If we already pay tax on foreign stocks example VWRA 15% withholding tax. Why need pay malaysian tax again? That would be considered double tax?? Breach of agreement with some countries liao like US! Pls vote this gov out in next election. If the gain is capital in nature, nope, you will not be taxed. If it's revenue in nature, yes you will be taxed. |
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Dec 7 2021, 02:50 PM
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Dec 7 2021, 05:49 PM
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Dec 7 2021, 06:00 PM
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Dec 22 2021, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 21 2021, 09:29 PM) Temasek's 13F filing on Monday (15 Nov 2021) listed investments in at least nine Chinese companies. put trust into temasek, they are one of the greatest. In other third-quarter portfolio tweaks, it bought more of the ADRs of 17 Ed & Technology Group, Beigene, Gracell Biotechnologies, Pinduoduo and ZTO Express and maintained its stakes in Tencent Music Entertainment and 21Vianet Group. In all, Temasek listed holdings in 91 companies with a combined market value of US$28.6 billion at the end of September, compared with 99 companies worth US$34.3 billion at the end of June. They represented a small portion of the S$381 billion (US$281.6 billion) of assets it managed on March 31. Temasek had about 27 per cent of its assets invested in China in July, unchanged from March, according to its July investment review. China remains Temasek's largest allocation by geography outside its home base. https://www.msn.com/en-xl/money/topstories/...hows/ar-AAQKEYa |
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QUOTE(honsiong @ Dec 22 2021, 11:55 AM) yeah agree, upward volatility.but if you zoom out on the chart, the downward volatility is temporary and is also part of the upward volatility in the long run (as historically shown). MUM liked this post
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jan 5 2022, 09:43 AM) i guess the takeaway here is, if someone suggests to HODL, ask them if they already have skin in the game (don't worry, there's quite a few here who's holding out for the long run) been holding since 2019 and my gain been fluctuating but on the steady rise in the long term.hopefully it can stay down for a while more, so we can get more bullets to accumulate. |
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 11 2022, 03:49 PM) suggest to DCA when you see many of the ETFs go down for a portfolio.. that way get to buy low & sell high later (excluding ETFs like KWEB that keep going south.. thematic portfolio ETFs is a good example those that have mostly growth.) DCA for a reason.if i need to micro-manage what SAMY does, then i could really be better off DIY-ing my own ETF portfolio. |
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