This thread purely for 17inch laptop models discussions only, any brand, any model.









Processor 8th Gen
Intel Core i7-8565U (up to 4.6GHz)
RAM 16GB DDR4 2400MHz
One 8GB (On Board) - One 8GB
Storage 512GB SATA3 (M.2 2280)
Display 17-inch WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
16:10 aspect
Glossy, non-touch
Graphics Intel UHD Graphics 620
Ports Three USB-A 3.0
USB-C Thunderbolt 3
HDMI 1.4
microSD card reader
3.5mm audio jack
Audio Dual 1.5W speakers
Wireless Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265
802.11 A/C (2X2)
Bluetooth 5.0
Camera Front-facing 720p
Keyboard Backlit with number pad
Touchpad Precision
Biometrics Fingerprint reader for Windows Hello
Battery Four-cell 72WHr
Weight 2.95 lbs (1.34 kg)
Dimensions 15.0 in x 10.5 in x 0.7 in (381 mm x 267 mm x 17.8 mm)
OS Windows 10 Home

US$1699.99

810-G military ruggedness standard(this I dont know). I was amazed at the display color in one of the videos above.

But too bad, no discrete graphics.

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Lenovo Legion Y740
Dell G7
Alienware m17
Razer Blade Pro

I'm looking ahead for a possible replacement (well my current laptop is since 2014, so its already showing its age), but I don't think one can get good value 17" laptops these days.

Here are some of those i've noticed and scoured around (at least for Malaysian markets) these are what are available:

Illegear Rogue
17.3″ FHD 144Hz IPS sRGB 100% Display featuring INFINIVISION Bezel-less Technology
Intel® HM370 Express Chipset
9th Generation Intel® Core™ i7 Processor (Coffeelake-R)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660Ti 6GB GDDR6 with Optimus
Up to 32GB Dual Channel DDR4 RAM
Membrane Keyboard with 4-zone Programmable RGB
Sound Blaster™ Cinema 5
Two 2 Watt Speakers & One 2 Watt Subwoofer
Windows 10 64-Bit Edition
Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 9560 2x2 M.2 - WLAN & Bluetooth 5 Combo
HD Webcam and Built-in Microphone
Five-heatpipe, Quad-vent & Heatsink, Dual-fan Cooling
1x USB Type-C, 1x HDMI 2.0, 2x Mini Displayport 1.4
2x M.2 PCIe SSD slots, 1x 2.5" SATA slot
17.3" Display in 15.6" Bezel-less Form Factor
Virtual Reality (VR) Ready
2.35kg with Battery
395(W) x 260(D) x 27(H) mm

starts at RM5,299

Illegear Z7
17.3" Full HD Anti-glare Display IPS/AHVA sRGB 100% Color & Wide View (1920 x 1080)
Intel® HM370 Express Chipset
8th Generation Intel® Core™ i7 Processor (Coffeelake)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 with Optimus (Pascal)
Up to 32GB Dual Channel DDR4 RAM
Backlit Keyboard with Four Programmable Macro Keys
Two 2 Watt Speakers & One 3 Watt Subwoofer
Windows 10 64-Bit Edition
Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 9560 2x2 M.2 - WLAN & Bluetooth 5 Combo
HD Webcam and Dual Digital Microphone
75Wh Battery
Silver-Anodized Aluminum Body with Stylish LED
Dual-heatpipe, Dual-vent and Dual-fan Cooling
1x USB 3.1 Gen 2 (Type-C) and 3x USB 3.1 Gen 1
Virtual Reality (VR) Ready
3.1kg with Battery and 2.5" Storage Drive
419(W) x 284(D) x 32.2(H) mm

starts at 4,099

17.3″ FHD 144Hz IPS sRGB 100% Display featuring INFINIVISION Bezel-less Technology
Intel® HM370 Express Chipset
8th Generation Intel® Core™ i7 Processor (Coffeelake)
Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 8GB GDDR6 with Optimus
Up to 32GB Dual Channel DDR4 RAM
Mechanical Keyboard v2 by GENESWITCH featuring Per-key RGB and N-key Roll-over
Sound Blaster™ Cinema 5
Two 2 Watt Speakers & One 3 Watt Subwoofer
Windows 10 64-Bit Edition
Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 9560 2x2 M.2 - WLAN & Bluetooth 5 Combo
Windows Hello Webcam and Dual Digital Microphone
Black-Anodized Aluminum Back Cover with Front Programmable RGB LED Bar
Five-heatpipe, Quad-vent & Heatsink, Dual-fan Cooling
1x USB Type-C, 1x HDMI 2.0, 2x Mini Displayport 1.4
2x M.2 PCIe SSD slots, 1x 2.5" SATA slot
17.3" Display in 15.6" Bezel-less Form Factor
Virtual Reality (VR) Ready
2.25kg with Battery and 2.5" Storage Drive
395(L) x 260(W) x 25(H) mm

Starts at 7399

All of the Illegear models above, does not have any room for CPU and GPU upgrade. RAM, HDD are "upgradeable".

However, if you look at the GPU and CPU specs, its nothing really to shout about. Especially when you have say 2070 on Optimus. Also, not to mention there isn't any indicator if they're full fledged GPUs or under the M (mobile) or even worse Max-Q moniker. That is also another consideration.


The one with changeable CPU and GPU, is the Illegear D7X here
Illegear D7X
17.3" Full HD Anti-glare 144Hz IPS Display with sRGB 100% Wide Color & Wide View (G-Sync)
Intel® Z370 Express Chipset
9th Generation Intel® Core™ i5 / i7 / i9 Desktop Processor
Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 6GB / RTX 2070 8GB / RTX 2080 8GB
Up to 64GB Dual Channel DDR4 RAM
Multi-color Programmable Backlit Keyboard with Individual Macro Keys
SoundBlasterX® Pro-Gaming 360°
Two Built-in Speakers & One Subwoofer
Windows 10 64-Bit Edition
Killer DoubleShot™ Pro
Full HD Webcam and Built-in Microphone
Li-Ion 82Wh Battery
2x USB 3.1 Gen 2 Combo Port (Type-C) (1x Hybrid Thunderbolt™ 3)
Smart Charging and Integrated Area Fingerprint Reader
Dual Boost 7-Heatpipe Interbridge and Virtual Reality (VR) Ready
ESS™ SABRE HiFi DAC for high resolution headphone audio
3.9kg with Battery and 2.5" Storage Drive
418(W) x 295.3(D) x 40.9(H) mm


but you can already see where i'm about to go; the price point, and its only a 2060. Jump to a 2070 with the same spec as above, and you'll see the price jumps to RM11.4k, and that's not yet looking into warranties, care package, other upgrades.


Alienware has 2 17" offerings (at least Alienware, not other Dell laptops)
at Alienware M17 .
This fella commands RM8k, but comes with RTX2080 Max-Q (which.... i'll just basically say its less than desktop 1080, probably desktop 1070) because the RTX2070 mobile (not sure of the supposed "full card") is only on par with a desktop 1080, but at a whooping price premium that's very difficult to justify).

The other one is this Alienware 17 but then again, the proc is a H (means mobile) and uses a GTX 1070 OC (which I can't identify whether its the Max-Q line up, the "mobile", or the "desktop-in-mobile" form (because yes, there are different variations). I doubt that its anything like the Dell's own swappable discrete GPU model (not to be confused with the external GPU adapter).


But oh well.... sigh.

i don't quite understand 17' laptops that are marketed as "thin and light".
the form-factor would only be attractive as a desktop replacement

Your post too long, will read up later. What about this one below got 32GB ram? As for pros and cons, have to ask ZM Fong.



And also use this link as reference.

Also Level51 but the site seem to be changing alot recently. Not sure about final 17inch models available if you compare to Aftershock recent changes.

Also Tech Armory, the TIGER 7 Ver.19-A 17inch model seem to delay to mid May availability from mid April.

More 17inch models and brands might be coming soon - word is really sarcastic especially for MY market.

Might really see some 17inch models with ryzen/nvidia combos hopefully.

Pipu want to carry to work and home. But mostly the laptop stay at one location only. Eg movement limited to inside the house between living room and bedroom mostly.

hyperyouth_firepower

From this post, he mention there's a new 17inch laptop, not sure he mean the newly launch Rogue laptop or a Z7 refresh laptop.

Insufficient cooling, very heavy, last gen CPU, weird keyboard feel despite mechanical, display only 75Hz

8750H+2060 is cheaper

For this Illegear D7X laptop, is this all round best laptop since the price only increase never drop and warranty start from 1 year intead of 2 year compare to other Illegear laptops?

It's a Clevo P775. Very special product since CPU and GPU can be upgraded and you can do a lot of modding with it. Price also high, therefore demand is small. Why they don't offer 2 yr warranty for this model, idk

Ryzen + Nvidia combos will be interesting, but if the Ryzen + AMD combos can deliver similar results with far lesser price, its a no brainer for me, i'm willing to go for it.

Somebody told me its the Selenite. Not sure what's its based on.

ZM Fong correctly pointed that its the Clevo P775. Its old, but very reliable, sturdy, and quite amazing.





add on:

I don't think that adding a new post would be beneficial, but just to continue the discussion (because i'm very interested in 17" laptops because I own an Illegear RS15 (because the RS-17 was out of reach / out of stock I forgot back then).

Acer Predator Helios 500 This is the supposedly only configuration available in Malaysia. Yes its dated, but the original setup allows setups such as full AMD, Ryzen + Nvidia, Intel + NVidia or Intel + AMD.


On the other hand, the one laptop that I was really anticipating about has launched.
The Alienware Area 51m A truest desktop-replacement in both construction and design. If it delivers what it promises, the price tag is something I can live by. You know it when NOTEBOOKCHECK puts the wording "Clevo Killer" before everything else. It speaks volumes.

The other laptop that turned my head, is the ASUS ROG Mothership At first I was very skeptical, but the Linus' fiddling and unboxing of it (as in literally, dismantling of it) in CES showing the innards convinced me that the Asus engineers really brute-forced the cooling on this one to make it actually work.


All 3 above? Price unknown.

This post has been edited by hyperyouth_firepower: Apr 27 2019, 10:44 PM

The price hopefully might be cheaper.

Selenite released last year, but Rogue just released recently, so not sure, he meant Rogue or a Z7 refresh laptop.

The pricetag.

I didnt notice the Acer Predator Helios 500 have AMD or Ryzen options.

The pricetag the worrying factor when that dell model reaches our shore.

What about PREDATOR TRITON 900?

This post has been edited by DuitNow: Apr 28 2019, 08:23 AM

Wow good find with the Triton 900. If the GPU and CPU isn't gimped (hopefully it isn't) I think it is a great device. A contender to the Asus ROG Mothership.

The Helios 500 really got amd or ryzen configuration?

At least to my understanding, from example this article from Tom's Hardwware, it shows that there is such. But to say that they're in our market, probably not because the one I posted was ACER MY. Maybe our market is too small / saturated.

It seem ryzen version price lower compare to intel. Hopefully more ryzen laptops appearing on our shores and more options for us to choose from.

So Razer released / refreshed their lineup for 2019, and a 17" model appears! The cooling looks great.

Price? Not sure.

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Blade-Gaming-L...-1-catcorr&th=1

from rm11K to 14K+

And just like all Razor Blade, you won't get any local support or warranty. Sad.

17inch r beast expensive n bulky

Pricing mostly depend on spec.

ya, but same spec bigger size usually more expensive

These are RM4k plus laptops.

ya, these look nice still too expensive 4 me

What's your budget?

below 3.8k poor

Found one but no stock. You arent the only one poor.

You have to upgrade the ram to atleast 8gb or 16gb to run smoothly. Not sure got ram slot to upgrade for this model.

This post has been edited by DuitNow: May 24 2019, 01:10 PM

This model has very flexible chassis...and small battery....not recommended despite the good display

lol hard times now
ya, ram low n no HDD, sacrifice 4 thinness, that is thin
probably wont suit my need thks anyway, mate

off topic, but how u make the link to the web a pic ?

Got SSD instead but no stock. Want thicker laptop then Z7, but you missed last week sale with 16GB ram, a M2 SSD and a HDD and price at RM4099.

u mean this ? https://www.illegear.com/laptops/z7/
i not urgent, want to find 1 i really like, dont wanna regret

thks 4 teaching gonna try 1

success thks again

I saw illegear tered doing this so I also learn how to do it too.

illegear tered not sure wats that

tered=thread

typo ? lol

Nope /k langugage.

wow, im noob wats /k langugage ?

/k

wow, didnt know that exist
so Kopitiam is a chatting place ?

New laptops are being announced in Computex CES this week running on new 9th-gen Intel CPU.
Among them is the 17" Dell m17 R2 and Gigabyte Aero 17.

This post has been edited by edmund_yung: May 29 2019, 10:11 AM

m17 R2 has soldered RAM ONLY which I really don't like the change

This post has been edited by ZM Fong: May 29 2019, 01:42 PM

Seriously?! That's a bad decision when the RAM price are falling!

Aero 17 coming in June.

The 9th m17 dont know yet.

The current 8th m17 or the new 9th m17?

Agree.

m17 r2. 9th gen

The 17inch Gigabyte Aero are here

Coming in July.

Damm, why cant both Aero 17 and GT76 Titan come in the same month, could be fun if there's a price war.

Both different category...how compare

You mean different price range or spec?





Lenovo sales seem going full force. Even chat line also active.

Different category - one is thin and light, another is desktop replacement

Y730 still a bit expensive...Y740 definitely worth considering now

Hope their delivery doesn't suck. From what I know Y740 has over 1 month delivery due to high demand

By that time, Y540 17inch would have already launch.

Just notice US already launched.

This post has been edited by DuitNow: May 31 2019, 12:59 AM

New Alienware m15 and m17 Gaming Laptops!

Non-upgradable RAM according to NBC. Don't want to recommend if that's the case

Asus launching a few 17inch models this month including the mothership.

Why not try level51 apex 17?

They not going to bring in Apex 17 here.

Bcoz Illegear is selling the same barebone - Selenite

Aero17 will arrive slightly later.
Aero15 AMOLED arrive this month

Any news regarding price and spec for TIGER 7 Ver.19-A?

RTX2070 GPU, 144Hz 17.3"

Will be announce next week

This post has been edited by storm88: Jun 8 2019, 11:34 PM

Just launch.

Based on Ideapad 330 which has bad cooling

Any update for both 17inch models above?

TIGER 7 Ver.19-A change into Tiger 6 S+ plus and there's also Carbine Evo 6 and 6+?

What about this model below with upgrade options which wasnt available here?

Very very expensive for a netbook

Based on Ideapad 330 17 which is even worse than the 15 inch, only thing is the FHD IPS is good

This post has been edited by DuitNow: Jun 29 2019, 12:50 AM

Hello

Carbine Evo 6 are 17.3" one. We are doing final content update, stock should arrive and website will be updated at the same time by tomorrow

And yes all 2019 models are base on Laptop body sizes instead of screen size.


the previous Tiger 7 Ver.19-A naming abit long, Tiger 6 S+ is much simpler.

This post has been edited by storm88: Jun 27 2019, 10:40 AM

Local L340s are TN panel, not IPS

Yeah...downgraded

But Lenovo MY site still list 17inch model as IPS?

17 inch is IPS, 15 inch is TN (optional IPS if customize)

that look insane
gimmicky ? looks huge to carry around

Might be doing reviews on these so stay tuned (it's a Clevo NH70 btw)

Are both Carbine models using the same casing?

Too bad, didnt see any Tiger.

Dont forget to review Nova 17 too.

This post has been edited by DuitNow: Jul 2 2019, 02:37 AM

Probably yes

Won't review Nova 17 since it's a niche product

Middle of July 2019 availability.

Tech Armory is selling the NH70 at much lower price...this one overpriced

Aorus 7 using NH70?

Im very interested in Carbine Evo 6 plus..
Waiting for your review first before buying as i couldnt find any review on it online

Waiting for Tiger 6 also..

Thanks 😀

How about Lenovo Y540 17 inch?

What do you want to know?

i'm intend to buy this laptop but the review is very little in google, is it worth the price for 5.2k with below spec?

Processor : Intel Core i7-9750H Processor (2.60GHz, up to 4.50GHz with Turbo Boost, 6 Cores, 12MB Cache)
Operating System : Windows 10 Home Single Language 64
Total Memory : 16GB (8+8) DDR4 2666MHz SoDIMM
First Hard Drive : 1TB Hard Drive, 7200RPM, 2.5", 7mm
Second Hard Drive : 512GB Solid State Drive, M.2 2280, PCIe-NVMe, TLC
Display : 17.3" FHD (1920x1080), LED backlight, IPS, 300nits, Anti-glare, 144Hz, Narrow
Graphics Card : NVIDIA GTX1660Ti 6GB GDDR6 192bits
Chipset : HM370
Battery : 3 Cell Li-Polymer Internal Battery, 57Wh
Power Adapter : 230W AC Adapter (3pin)-UK