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post Mar 11 2019, 08:23 AM, updated 6y ago

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Boeing, Malaysia Airlines Announce Order for up to 50 737 MAX Airplanes
MAX will play big role in national carrier’s new growth plan
Malaysia Airlines has announced an order for 25 Boeing 737 MAX 8 airplanes. The deal is valued at $2.75 billion dollars at current list prices. The order also includes purchase rights for additional 737 MAX 8 and 737 MAX 9 airplanes.

“This deal is a game-changer for Malaysia Airlines with much lower costs and greater efficiency which we will pass on to our loyal customers with lower fares,” said Peter Bellew, Malaysia Airlines’ Chief Executive Officer. “With the 737 MAX’s longer range capabilities, we will be able to connect our passengers to more destinations, in greater comfort and with superior economics.”

The Malaysian national carrier has operated almost every derivative of the 737 airplane family and took delivery of its 100th 737 in December 2014. Malaysia Airlines currently operates more than 50 737-800s.

“The 737 MAX will continue the superior operating economics and reliability of the 737 that Malaysia Airlines has depended for more than 40 years,” said Dinesh Keskar, senior vice president, Asia Pacific & India Sales, Boeing Commercial Airplanes.

The 737 MAX will deliver 20 percent lower fuel use than the first Next-Generation 737s and the lowest operating costs in its class – 8 percent per seat less than its nearest competitor. The new single-aisle airplane incorporates the latest technology CFM International LEAP-1B engines, Advanced Technology winglets and other improvements to deliver the highest efficiency, reliability and passenger comfort in the single-aisle market.


https://www.boeing.com/commercial/customers...r-07-26-16.page

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post Mar 11 2019, 08:27 AM

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so MH370 was under 737 MAX 8?
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QUOTE(Chaud @ Mar 11 2019, 08:27 AM)
so MH370 was under 737 MAX 8?
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But the quick discovery has sparked fury over the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

The Boeing 777 remains missing more than four years after it disappeared off radars with 239 people on board.

Flight 370 had been en route from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing, China on March 8, 2014 when it lost contact with Malaysia Airlines 38 minutes into the flight.

Moments later it was then lost from Air Traffic Control radar screens, but was tracked by military radar for another hour, flying way off its planned flight path.


https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news...cambodia-jungle
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QUOTE(Chaud @ Mar 11 2019, 08:27 AM)
so MH370 was under 737 MAX 8?
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post Mar 11 2019, 08:59 AM

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I will check the aircraft model for the routes I fly before booking the tickets.
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Mar 11 2019, 10:33 AM
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post Mar 11 2019, 09:08 AM

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China Aviation grounded all MAX flight

CN received over 60 planes of this type..

Probably problematic craft with nose dive software that overwrite pilot decision

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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Mar 11 2019, 09:08 AM)
China Aviation grounded all MAX flight

CN received over 60 planes of this type..

Probably problematic craft with nose dive software that overwrite pilot decision
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Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines 737Max crash really cause an issue for Boeing tho. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

first it was their B787 dreamliner mid-air engine shutdown.
now their B737Max sad.gif
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post Mar 11 2019, 09:11 AM

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I won't fly 737 Max, that's for sure.

An aircraft that does not have back up systems in case of that Lion air disaster, is a flying coffin to disaster.

Pretty irresponsible of Boeing for withholding those info and not having fail safe systems.

Disappointed ! I always trusted Boeing but this time around, they are a let down.
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Mar 11 2019, 09:10 AM)
Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines 737Max crash really cause an issue for Boeing tho.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

first it was their B787 dreamliner mid-air engine shutdown.
now their B737Max  sad.gif
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2nd time for B737 Max

how old is this aircraft ? 2 years old ?


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post Mar 11 2019, 09:15 AM

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And the tered is back on the right track. Talking about the right thing..

I tried to follow the posting trend of poster no.1 and 2 and 3 and got deleted.

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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Mar 11 2019, 09:13 AM)
2nd time for B737 Max

how old is this aircraft ? 2 years old ?
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according to gugel

delivered in November 2018, crash in march 2019 nod.gif

so... 4 months old

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post Mar 11 2019, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Aparaa @ Mar 11 2019, 09:04 AM)
QUOTE(Aparaa @ Mar 11 2019, 09:15 AM)
And the tered is back on the right track. Talking about the right thing..

I tried to follow the posting trend of poster no.1 and 2 and 3 and got deleted.
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Your thread was deleted because you posted a spam.
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Mar 11 2019, 09:16 AM)
according to gugel

delivered in November 2018, crash in march 2019  nod.gif

so... 4 months old
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Omg

Usually it’s due to combination of factors such as misunderstanding in technical engineering, pilot error and manufacturer defect.

But if Boeing still has insuffient steps to address lion air crash then better stay away from that 737 max
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GG, even my company wechat group advice not to take 737-MAX airbus/airplane.
How to identify if the air carrier is using 737MAX?
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Mar 11 2019, 09:08 AM)
China Aviation grounded all MAX flight

CN received over 60 planes of this type..

Probably problematic craft with nose dive software that overwrite pilot decision
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Mar 11 2019, 09:10 AM)
Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines 737Max crash really cause an issue for Boeing tho.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

first it was their B787 dreamliner mid-air engine shutdown.
now their B737Max  sad.gif
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wont comment until final report of lion air release
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if it's not boeing i'm not going

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QUOTE(Omgf @ Mar 11 2019, 10:09 AM)
GG, even my company wechat group advice not to take 737-MAX airbus/airplane.
How to identify if the air carrier is using 737MAX?
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take airasia konfem wont kena laugh.gif
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QUOTE(PulseAngel @ Mar 11 2019, 10:10 AM)
if it's not boeing i'm not going

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wokay wokay go for Tupolev
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QUOTE(DValentine @ Mar 11 2019, 10:10 AM)
wont comment until final report of lion air release
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wait, got ppl threaten you with sedition act?

prevention, its your F-life

not like you have no other option lol
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post Mar 11 2019, 10:20 AM

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/business...ng-737-max.html
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Mar 11 2019, 10:16 AM)
wait, got ppl threaten you with sedition act?

prevention, its your F-life

not like you have no other option lol
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skeptical, speculation bullshiat

i belip report


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post Mar 11 2019, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Omgf @ Mar 11 2019, 10:09 AM)
GG, even my company wechat group advice not to take 737-MAX airbus/airplane.
How to identify if the air carrier is using 737MAX?
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lion air / batik / malindo a mix of 737NG and 737 Max.
Mas fly 737 NG
AA fly a320 / a321.
make ur choice.
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Mar 11 2019, 09:10 AM)
Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines 737Max crash really cause an issue for Boeing tho.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

first it was their B787 dreamliner mid-air engine shutdown.
now their B737Max  sad.gif
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there had been a few video on youtube by news company abt how bad boeing is
their planes are literally assembled by people equivalent to bangla at our country
which has no aviation knowledge at all
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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Mar 11 2019, 09:13 AM)
2nd time for B737 Max

how old is this aircraft ? 2 years old ?
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not even fucking 1 year old
for lion air just 2-3 months only
Ethiopian 1 is 10 month old
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 11 2019, 03:50 PM)
there had been a few video on youtube by news company abt how bad boeing is
their planes are literally assembled by people equivalent to bangla at our country
which has no aviation knowledge at all
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that story was about the 787 dreamliner assembled in Charleston, North Carolina. never about 737 tho'...
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now sit aeroplane oso need to check the model of the aircraft, why nldun they just ban all 737 max??
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QUOTE(TechSuper @ Mar 11 2019, 03:56 PM)
that story was about the 787 dreamliner assembled in Charleston, North Carolina. never about 737 tho'...
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they didn't just reveal the assembly
they also reveal the company's financial status..etc
how they cut cost everywhere they can

in short, if they can do it to 1 plane, they can do it to others
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QUOTE(Mr. Najib Razak @ Mar 11 2019, 03:53 PM)
not even fucking 1 year old
for lion air just 2-3 months only
Ethiopian 1 is 10 month old
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Gosh

Lapsap plane
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post Mar 11 2019, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Mar 11 2019, 04:03 PM)
now sit aeroplane oso need to check the model of the aircraft, why nldun they just ban all 737 max??
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Sigh, retarded question once again.

There are only 2 major airline makers in the world, they monopolize the market. You "ban all 737 max", they can just rebrand it with some tweaks and call it something else, yet most people won't know about it. Ban for what cock?
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Mar 11 2019, 04:19 PM)
Sigh, retarded question once again.

There are only 2 major airline makers in the world, they monopolize the market. You "ban all 737 max", they can just rebrand it with some tweaks and call it something else, yet most people won't know about it. Ban for what cock?
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ban current 737 max frm flying la, china ledi grounded all 737 max from flying ledi since the ethiopian crash, ur live more important or airline profit more important?
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Mar 11 2019, 04:03 PM)
now sit aeroplane oso need to check the model of the aircraft, why nldun they just ban all 737 max??
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impossible
cuz faa will side boeing
and if 737 max were to ban
millions of american would be out of job
so impossible
what u can do is just avoid taking 737 max
737-8, -9 all have pretty good safety records
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Mar 11 2019, 04:28 PM)
ban current 737 max frm flying la, china ledi grounded all 737 max from flying ledi since the ethiopian crash, ur live more important or airline profit more important?
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ban =/= ground

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The manufacturer is the real issue not the airlines or pilots
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Fly Air Koryo confirm won't kena Airbus or Boeing.
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QUOTE(Mr. Najib Razak @ Mar 11 2019, 04:31 PM)
ban =/= ground
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alright mayb i should rephrase, ground all 737 max until problem found n solved
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QUOTE(RicoT @ Mar 11 2019, 04:35 PM)
Fly Air Koryo confirm won't kena Airbus or Boeing.
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Great idea
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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Mar 11 2019, 09:11 AM)
I won't fly 737 Max, that's for sure.

An aircraft that does not have back up systems in case of that Lion air disaster, is a flying coffin to disaster.

Pretty irresponsible of Boeing for withholding those info and not having fail safe systems.

Disappointed ! I always trusted Boeing but this time around, they are a let down.
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silk air also 737 max

your only choice is air asia
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u think sit 737 max tommorow u will die?

your trip to klia sure very likely to die first lah
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QUOTE(DValentine @ Mar 11 2019, 10:10 AM)
wont comment until final report of lion air release
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Is it not out yet?
I thought it was last year incident. How long normally they need to conclude the investigation?
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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Mar 11 2019, 06:48 PM)
Is it not out yet?
I thought it was last year incident. How long normally they need to conclude the investigation?
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u think hari ini pancut dalam 9 months later lahir anak ka

u think air crash investigation documentary ka

all those data analayze, FDR CVR data restore and analyze, sample send for lab all those take times one

summore report have to give root cause and recommendation etc

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Aircraft Certification Committee Releases Findings & Recommendations to Enhance Aviation Safety
WASHINGTON, DC – Today, the Special Committee to Review the Federal Aviation Administration’s Aircraft Certification Process (the Committee), established by U.S. Department of Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao, released its report after more than six months of study and evaluation. The Committee was commissioned as an independent panel of aviation and safety experts to conduct an objective review of the procedures of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) for product certification and the processes followed by the FAA and Boeing during the certification of the 737 MAX 8. The Committee was instructed to review the certification process, evaluate potential enhancements to the system, and make recommendations to bolster aviation safety. The report released today captures the numerous, consensus findings and more than a dozen unanimous recommendations by the Special Committee.

FAA Certification

The Committee found that overall, the FAA’s certification, as set forth by Congress and governed by regulation, is effective; however, reforms must be adopted to help our extremely safe aviation system become even better at identifying and mitigating risk.

737 MAX 8 Certification

The Committee found that the FAA’s aircraft certification process was followed by the FAA and Boeing in the certification of the 737 MAX 8; however, again, there is opportunity for improvement in multiple areas.

The executive summary of the report can be found here.

Findings and Recommendations

The Committee made findings and offered recommendations with respect to the following areas:

Broader requirement for Safety Management Systems (SMS) for design and manufacturing organizations
Expansion of System Safety Assessments (SSA), which are an essential component of safety risk management
Expansion of the FAA’s global engagement and influence
Better data gathering and utilization
Closer and more specified coordination among the different FAA offices engaged in the certification process
Aggressive development of the FAA workforce to meet evolving industry needs
Continued use and enhancement of the FAA’s system of delegation within the certification process
Clarification and updating of the FAA’s policies with respect to amended type certificates
Continued focus on th FAA’s innovation efforts to support new entrants and the further implementation of performance-based regulations
Review and action on recent recommended actions from industry-government advisory committees and government oversight agencies to enhance the safety and efficiency of the certification process
The full report can be found here.

Background

In April of 2019, U.S. Secretary of Transportation Elaine L. Chao created the Special Committee to Review the Federal Aviation Administration’s Aircraft Certification Process. This action was taken in response to the crashes of two Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft, one in Indonesia and one in Ethiopia, which claimed 346 lives. The Committee was instructed to review the certification process, evaluate potential enhancements to the system, and make recommendations to bolster aviation safety. The Committee is made up of five members: Co-Chairs Captain Lee Moak and General Darren McDew and members Gretchen Haskins, Kenneth Hylander, and David Grizzle.

Over a period of six months, the Committee worked to obtain firsthand information and insight from the FAA and stakeholders regarding the aircraft certification system. The Committee met with an array of aviation and safety management specialists. The Committee talked to subject matter experts and managers from the FAA, along with representatives from aviation trade associations, labor organizations, industry, and other U.S. government agencies. The Committee also spoke with those directly involved in the certification of the 737 MAX 8, including key staff from the FAA’s Boeing Aviation Safety Oversight Office (BASOO) and a large panel of Boeing engineers, test pilots, and safety specialists.

Committee’s approach was collaborative, not investigatory. Its mandate was to collect and analyze information, not find fault. Its focus was to make findings and recommendations to enhance the process moving forward. The mandate and purpose of the Special Committee to review the Federal Aviation Administration’s Aircraft Certification Process, therefore, is unique.

Media Contact for the Special Committee:

Michael Robbins

202-838-3800

michael.robbins@moakgroup.com

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Updated: Thursday, January 16, 2020

source: https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-roo...nhance-aviation

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