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TSEternalgl0ry
post Mar 10 2019, 12:11 AM, updated 6y ago

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Regarding Nitrogen inflation

Can you mix with normal air. Well it is not purpose of course maybe in a emergency like a portable air inflator or fuel stations
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post Mar 10 2019, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(Eternalgl0ry @ Mar 10 2019, 12:11 AM)
Regarding Nitrogen inflation

Can you mix with normal air. Well it is not purpose of course maybe in a emergency like a portable air inflator or fuel stations
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Of course. Air is more than 50% nitrogen.

Also, nitrogen gas is a waste of money, unless, it is free
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post Mar 10 2019, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Mar 10 2019, 02:45 PM)
Of course. Air is more than 50% nitrogen.

Also, nitrogen gas is a waste of money, unless, it is free
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post Mar 10 2019, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Mar 10 2019, 02:45 PM)
Of course. Air is more than 50% nitrogen.

Also, nitrogen gas is a waste of money, unless, it is free
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TSEternalgl0ry
post Mar 11 2019, 12:19 AM

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I was told by the tyre shop that the nitrogen will keep the temp lower than just air and last long bla bla bla lol

But he never said it was free
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post Mar 11 2019, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(Eternalgl0ry @ Mar 11 2019, 12:19 AM)
I was told by the tyre shop that the nitrogen will keep the temp lower than just air and last long bla bla bla lol

But he never said it was free
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tyre shop fella.. aiya

if you check your tyre pressure every fortnight, you should be fine.

Nitrogen is used in F1. But they also use carbon fibre, KERS, Titanium pushrods and active aero.

That doesnt mean normal cars should use.

But! if it is free, sure. Like free nasi lemak, sapu only.
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post Mar 11 2019, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Mar 11 2019, 08:16 AM)
tyre shop fella.. aiya

if you check your tyre pressure every fortnight, you should be fine.

Nitrogen is used in F1. But they also use carbon fibre, KERS, Titanium pushrods and active aero.

That doesnt mean normal cars should use.

But! if it is free, sure. Like free nasi lemak, sapu only.
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Just check every 2-3 weeks or every time filling up
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post Mar 11 2019, 02:52 PM

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Supposedly the benefits of Nitrogen filled tyres are:
- lower leakage rate because apparently the molecules are bigger (never mind that normal air has about 70-plus per cent of nitrogen
- allows the tyres to run cooler

The only benefit I can think of is pure nitrogen is dry, but so far I've never seen any rust from using wet air.

Do take note that many years ago, one tyre shop I went to labelled the source as Nitrogen but when I traced the piping, it led to normal air compressor discharge.
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post Mar 11 2019, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Mar 10 2019, 02:45 PM)
Of course. Air is more than 50% nitrogen.

Also, nitrogen gas is a waste of money, unless, it is free
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post Mar 11 2019, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Eternalgl0ry @ Mar 10 2019, 12:11 AM)
Regarding Nitrogen inflation

Can you mix with normal air. Well it is not purpose of course maybe in a emergency like a portable air inflator or fuel stations
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You do know air is 70%++ nitrogen right .
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post Mar 11 2019, 04:25 PM

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when u fill up nitrogen at ur tire shop, u already have air in the tires that it will mix with.

so yes.. no problem... can mix

n yes, no problem, later on u can top up using normal air. no need to remove all the nitrogen first.
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QUOTE(Eternalgl0ry @ Mar 11 2019, 12:19 AM)
I was told by the tyre shop that the nitrogen will keep the temp lower than just air and last long bla bla bla lol

But he never said it was free
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Of course.. it's for tire shop to earn $$$.... if offer free, it's to keep you coming back to him.

Otherwise, puncture repair, alignment, balancing, change tires, change rims... anywhere also can do.
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post Mar 11 2019, 04:44 PM

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Nitrogen air is a waste of money. It is a scam created by tyre shop to make money. The benefit you get from filling up with nitrogen is negligible. Plus you need to always "buy" nitrogen gas to fill up if you want to maintain it.
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post Mar 11 2019, 05:58 PM

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manatau u pay them to fill your tire with nitrogen, they filled with normal air instead ...
mana u tau kan .. icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 11 2019, 06:16 PM

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dun bother nitrogen with normal road cars the difference is negligible. Save the RM5 per tyre for fuel better.

u do realise air has almost 80% nitrogen right?
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post Mar 12 2019, 01:36 PM

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read internet articles is Nitrogen better than normal Air

However I currently use Nitrogen air, don't really feel any difference

I ask them to refill during balancing alignment, shop normally no charge me

TLDR: just fill up and try yourself, not recommended to mix
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post Mar 13 2019, 06:26 PM

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Can mix with normal air, no problem .

I dont think we can fill up 100% nitrogen air into the tyre with common rim when installation.


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post Mar 14 2019, 11:54 AM

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IMO, nitrogen for those places that hardly found gas station to fill up air..
In long run it does benefit as you hardly need to fill up the air inside tyre..
But in town area which has a lot of fuel pump, normal air is good enough with once a weak check the tyre pressure..

In indonesia they like to use nitrogen, summore its free there..
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post Mar 22 2019, 10:26 AM

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That uncle also tell me the same thing. It says will benefit if travel long journies.

I have a portable air compressor but it's a hassle diy because the hose normally need to screw to tighten unlike those tyre shops where they have clip style to easy in and out without leak

Everytime I unscrew it will have some air leak if I do not take out fast enough ☚ī¸

I saw a decent portable air compressor that connects to the battery connection but it cost 3000$ đŸ¤Ļ‍♂ī¸. I don't think it is worth the money unless going through forest or something

This post has been edited by Eternalgl0ry: Mar 22 2019, 10:27 AM
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post Mar 22 2019, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Mar 11 2019, 04:44 PM)
Nitrogen air is a waste of money. It is a scam created by tyre shop to make money. The benefit you get from filling up with nitrogen is negligible. Plus you need to always "buy" nitrogen gas to fill up if you want to maintain it.
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