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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum! V3, TT is still going ON!PM batista_beast!

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post Jun 25 2007, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jun 25 2007, 04:53 PM)
yeah... can lock brake.... but this thing can be prevented when u get used to it lor... if not try using SM4 twin layer brake servo.... plug n play for saga iswara as well... the pressure is distributed linearly... not like sudden pressure that can lock up brakes like the vr4 one....

rear disc works best for high speed or highway cruise... for town drive, bigger front calipers is better..... but before u install rear disc or bigger front calipers, ur brake pressure must be sufficient enough.... thats why twin layer servo isa vr important fundamental upgrade... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 25 2007, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(hamiru @ Jun 25 2007, 03:46 PM)
i see
once i sent my iswara to servis, the mech changed my rear absorber into gas, it became stiffer, same stiffness like my father's new saga, so i tot it uses gas also
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Wah.. That mech know wow.. Hehe..

QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jun 25 2007, 03:55 PM)
ehh, it wasnt rm150.... rm200 ler... the earlier weber the seller offer to me rm150 nia, but inside crack jor... so i reject sama dia...
so cheap where got plug n play ler.... he direct cabut from halfcut... means i have to custom the tapak for my 4g13 manifold, jettings and tunings all have to retune to match my engine.... where got plug n play so nice....

the oem speedometer (middle section) cost about rm150 in spare part shop... if go workshop ask them change, might be around rm185.... oem tachometer (left section) sold in spare part shop is about rm180..... if complete vdo gauge i duno la... mayb u can go halfcut shop find 1 working one for cheaper price....

weber tu carburetor.... enhance better breathing and more tuneability to ur fuel jettings and so on....
in short, mainly to increase power.... icon_rolleyes.gif
harloo... wave.gif

welcome welcome....
agree.... quick go change vr4 twin layer brake servo... confirm satisfied....
stiffer mayb due to the springs.... LMST/LMSS springs are abit shorter than older saga iswara....
yeap, gas mostly for performance.... oil mostly for comfort...
but monroe coorperates both of them in their absorber....

oem or not depend on what proton say mar.... proton's absorber supplier are from kayaba n apm.... they spray the whole thing black and lekat proton sticker on it only ler.... no difference.... doh.gif
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Wah.. Plus this plus that at least need RM1k for the weber??

About the brake, will change later on.. VR4 and he also got recommend a brake servo also.. Forget what name liao.. hehe.

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 25 2007, 03:55 PM)
those kantoi absorber at first very stiff later when u fetch ppl the bumper will drag on floor lol.


Added on June 25, 2007, 3:56 pm
thanks for the info singchaii u wan change wat brake pump and wat absorber? tell us ok? later ask shifoo see he say wat hey singchai is the tyre tyre celup? dun kid me le doh.gif
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Brake pump I don't think wanna do first.. Cause I wan sekali upgrade my brake sistem.. About the absorber, I don't think wanna get GAB first.. Cause not enough money.. I use GAB spring from Howie first, then later got money only change GAB sekali.. Cause the mech told me use lowered sport spring to get better hanlding..

QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jun 25 2007, 03:58 PM)
more convenince if change outside........
the proton SC will chop our warraty book every time we attend for services, correct?
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Everytime you go service, or claimed any warranty, it will written down on the booklet.. I get reminder from the SC also when is the time for service.. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 25 2007, 04:00 PM)
So the conclusion is the brake its like tat liao de la? cant adjust 1 la? If adjust also like tat tak makan 1 ar?
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Not tak makan la.. Makan is makan geh.. Mean not so good compare like other lor..

QUOTE(batista_beast @ Jun 25 2007, 04:23 PM)
use GAB laaa..howie shop got offer now.hahaha

but if wanna use comfort one,i suggest monroe lor..not that expensive..


Added on June 25, 2007, 4:29 pm

old but full of knowledge maa..my father is 55 years old yet he still have younger friends coz they always ask him anything when it comes to cars...hehehe
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Yeah.. Old mech always have many experience or knowledge on CARB car.. Hehe.. A big benefit for us.
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 25 2007, 04:58 PM)
price for that twin layer servo how much? dot 3 consider good brake fluid or not? some car not recommend to change brake fiuld beside dot 3 woh.
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usually they sell servo n pump together.... price now is about rm170 i guess..... installation about rm45-rm50 extra.... smile.gif
dot3 is 1 grade lower than dot4... dot5 is the best.... but endless came out with brake fluid dot5.1 sometime ago, mostly used for racing....

QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 25 2007, 05:02 PM)
Wah.. That mech know wow.. Hehe..
Wah.. Plus this plus that at least need RM1k for the weber??

About the brake, will change later on.. VR4 and he also got recommend a brake servo also.. Forget what name liao.. hehe.
Brake pump I don't think wanna do first.. Cause I wan sekali upgrade my brake sistem..
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lebih kurang i guess.... tuning it till match with my engine is the hardest part lo... mostly trial n error... haihz.... still not properly tuned yet....

brakes system also can do step by step geh.... when u start to increase ur engine performance, ur brakes also must go accordingly.... if not vr dangerous....
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post Jun 25 2007, 07:58 PM

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singchaii, ur car buang under wat condition? i din experience it b4? wat the mechanic say reli so serious ah?
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jun 25 2007, 07:27 PM)
usually they sell servo n pump together.... price now is about rm170 i guess..... installation about rm45-rm50 extra.... smile.gif
dot3 is 1 grade lower than dot4... dot5 is the best.... but endless came out with brake fluid dot5.1 sometime ago, mostly used for racing....
lebih kurang i guess.... tuning it till match with my engine is the hardest part lo... mostly trial n error... haihz.... still not properly tuned yet....

brakes system also can do step by step geh.... when u start to increase ur engine performance, ur brakes also must go accordingly.... if not vr dangerous....
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Hehe.. Brake system is the thing is very useful in a car.. Hehe.. So before mod performance, confirm I will mod my brake system..

QUOTE(zhixin @ Jun 25 2007, 07:58 PM)
singchaii, ur car buang under wat condition? i din experience it b4? wat the mechanic say reli so serious ah?
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Under what condition? Dry road condition.. hehe.. Not very serious la.. It can improve it by upgrading the suspension on tyre..

I going to install a GAB sport spring.. This spring ok right?
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 25 2007, 08:13 PM)
Hehe.. Brake system is the thing is very useful in a car.. Hehe.. So before mod performance, confirm I will mod my brake system..
Under what condition? Dry road condition.. hehe.. Not very serious la.. It can improve it by upgrading the suspension on tyre..

I going to install a GAB sport spring.. This spring ok right?
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expensive ma singchaii? stiff or not? later i go corner car no buang all passanger behind buang brows.gif


Added on June 25, 2007, 8:16 pm
QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jun 25 2007, 07:27 PM)
usually they sell servo n pump together.... price now is about rm170 i guess..... installation about rm45-rm50 extra.... smile.gif
dot3 is 1 grade lower than dot4... dot5 is the best.... but endless came out with brake fluid dot5.1 sometime ago, mostly used for racing....
lebih kurang i guess.... tuning it till match with my engine is the hardest part lo... mostly trial n error... haihz.... still not properly tuned yet....

brakes system also can do step by step geh.... when u start to increase ur engine performance, ur brakes also must go accordingly.... if not vr dangerous....
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oh the servo and pump only ar then caliper wan change ma? change to 13 inch dunno cant or no hor? bigger baru look nice ma icon_rolleyes.gif

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Under what condition? Dry road condition.. hehe.. Not very serious la.. It can improve it by upgrading the suspension on tyre..

I going to install a GAB sport spring.. This spring ok right?


Sime tyres are not so good.. Wat more rejected ones?? haiz..
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QUOTE(zhixin @ Jun 25 2007, 08:17 PM)
Sime tyres are not so good.. Wat more rejected ones?? haiz..
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i worry the tyre are those celup 1. Cos from the tyre u can see those not nicely done.
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 25 2007, 08:15 PM)
expensive ma singchaii? stiff or not? later i go corner car no buang all passanger behind buang  brows.gif


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oh the servo and pump only ar then caliper wan change ma? change to 13 inch dunno cant or no hor? bigger baru look nice ma  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Don't know wow.. Not yet put yet.. Wait howie to reply.. Hehe..

QUOTE(zhixin @ Jun 25 2007, 08:17 PM)
Sime tyres are not so good.. Wat more rejected ones?? haiz..
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Hehe.. What to do.. RM27k only wow.. You expect give us advan tyre meh? Hehe..

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 25 2007, 08:20 PM)
i worry the tyre are those celup 1. Cos from the tyre u can see those not nicely done.
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Don't worry.. Not celup geh.. My tyre more teruk.. Hehe..
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 25 2007, 08:20 PM)
i worry the tyre are those celup 1. Cos from the tyre u can see those not nicely done.
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they use rejected tyres? really aa?

fuh no wonder la during corner,even if i hit a small hole,can feel the car buang a bit..but not that much la...luckily i changed those tyres oledy..now using silverstone for rear and continental for front...hehe thumbup.gif


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post Jun 25 2007, 08:43 PM

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guys,who is howie?where's his shop?
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QUOTE(icyd @ Jun 25 2007, 08:43 PM)
guys,who is howie?where's his shop?
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you can see his name in the 'automotive garage section'..(howiechoo)
his shop located in seri kembangan(alongside the south city plaza)...




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QUOTE(batista_beast @ Jun 25 2007, 08:41 PM)
they use rejected tyres? really aa?

fuh no wonder la during corner,even if i hit a small hole,can feel the car buang a bit..but not that much la...luckily i changed those tyres oledy..now using silverstone for rear and continental for front...hehe thumbup.gif
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Wah.. Silverstone.. i also want.. How much? Hehe..

When wanna go howie shop? I maybe going on this Wednesday to get GAB sport lowered spring..

I got something to ask.. Now whenever I go tru hump, it also will kena my mid box.. If I use lower spring, confirm more kena? I scare I can't go tru those hump at time square parking.
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Silverstone nice meh? the synergy M4?
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 25 2007, 08:53 PM)
Wah.. Silverstone.. i also want.. How much? Hehe..

When wanna go howie shop? I maybe going on this Wednesday to get GAB sport lowered spring..

I got something to ask.. Now whenever I go tru hump, it also will kena my mid box.. If I use lower spring, confirm more kena? I scare I can't go tru those hump at time square parking.
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the silverstone rm120/piece only..
waa wednesday still no gaji for me...aiyaahh ur timing is bad la bro..

try installing a more stiffer abs and spring..maybe ur stock abs got problem oledy..everyday racing racing only... doh.gif hehe..




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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 25 2007, 08:59 PM)
Silverstone nice meh? the synergy M4?
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using this type of tyre...for me is ok lor..i dunno how to judge tyres..just as long my car can move dah la..hahahaha

http://www.silverstone.com.my/tyre_ktzSport.asp


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QUOTE(batista_beast @ Jun 25 2007, 08:45 PM)
you can see his name in the 'automotive garage section'..(howiechoo)
his shop located in seri kembangan(alongside the south city plaza)...
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QUOTE(batista_beast @ Jun 25 2007, 09:02 PM)
the silverstone rm120/piece only..
waa wednesday still no gaji for me...aiyaahh ur timing is bad la bro..

try installing a more stiffer abs and spring..maybe ur stock abs got problem oledy..everyday racing racing only... doh.gif  hehe..
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RM120 still can consider.. But is 165 only wow.. 185 rim can put 165 tyre??

I also think that my stock suspension got problem..
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QUOTE(batista_beast @ Jun 25 2007, 09:05 PM)
using this type of tyre...for me is ok lor..i dunno how to judge tyres..just as long my car can move dah la..hahahaha

http://www.silverstone.com.my/tyre_ktzSport.asp
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i wan to overcome my hyroplanning problem le so dangerous. icon_question.gif


Added on June 25, 2007, 10:27 pmguys still tyre look nice user posted image
guys how to read the speed rating? do we need to find back the same speed rating tyre with the stock 1


Added on June 25, 2007, 11:22 pmwah y tonite no shifoo online geh??
guys pm me where u guys bought u car.. from EON or Proton i wan put at first post. Reply me here also can

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 25 2007, 08:15 PM)

Added on June 25, 2007, 8:16 pm
oh the servo and pump only ar then caliper wan change ma? change to 13 inch dunno cant or no hor? bigger baru look nice ma  icon_rolleyes.gif
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change servo first la... vr4 pump actually is the same with oem pump... so, u basically paying for the servo only coz they dun sell separately.... kekeke...

calipers slowly only find lo... best if can find mirage turbo brakes... those are 100% plug n play into our car.... vr4 calipers also can, but need to mod the steering/tie rod bracket... since mirage turbo calipers are getting more n more rare, settle with vr4 ones also good enuff lar.... now many saga iswara users also using vr4 nia...

ohya, vr4 single pot calipers - minimum rim size is 14"
vr4 twinpot calipers - minimum rim size is 15"

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 25 2007, 08:53 PM)
I got something to ask.. Now whenever I go tru hump, it also will kena my mid box.. If I use lower spring, confirm more kena? I scare I can't go tru those hump at time square parking.
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time to brush up ur skill going over speed bumps... brows.gif
wan me teach u how??..... 1 teh ais ok??....

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Added on June 25, 2007, 11:22 pmwah y tonite no shifoo online geh??
guys pm me where u guys bought u car.. from  EON or Proton i wan put at first post. Reply me here also can
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u la sifoo.... who u looking for some more??... hmm.gif

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