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post Jun 2 2023, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Jun 2 2023, 06:59 PM)
hahaha, EPF is an investment house. so the more investors (public) the more they can widen their portfolio of investment. Hence its more profit for them. Only based on those profit, they share a some portion to the investors who has saved the money in EPF. End of the day its a profit for them if they have a larger sum to play around, after all its profit sharing.
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Not so easy… when your funds is at certain size ie very big, you have a dilemma to be able to invest them all for a consistent high return.
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post Jun 10 2023, 10:28 PM

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Do we need to go to counter for setting up self contribution for very first time? Or all done via Internet login?
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post Nov 12 2023, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(Haloperidol @ Nov 4 2023, 12:38 PM)
Now by self-contributing , you can subjected to tax waiver up to RM 3000
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This apply to that annual max 100k limit contribution?
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post Jan 6 2024, 09:09 AM

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Folks,

Say I pumped in 100k now, and I'm 55 in few months, all account 1&2 become acct 55...?

Which essentially become pseudo saving account that can withdraw at will?

Any contribution from work and self with new accounts 60, can only withdraw at 60, yes?

Can we do another 100k to this account 60 for this year? nod.gif


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post Jan 6 2024, 02:52 PM

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I presume acct 55 kicks in on the 55th birthday or jan of the year? No action needed on our end?
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post Jan 7 2024, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 7 2024, 08:13 AM)
Congrats! I still need a few more years to go. Yes, anything you contributed after 55 will goes to Account Emas (60).
Yes, you can setup online withdrawal to withdraw money like an ATM from your 55 account.
if your parents is now still around, why don't nominate it now? It's a very easy process. One visit to EPF will do. Immediately done on the spot.
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Time fly.... very soon for you.

And yet you already FIRE than us older fart
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post Jan 7 2024, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 7 2024, 01:22 PM)
My life is simple...I don't need lots of money ..just live below my means...I guess I have evolved a little bit closer  to the point of no craving (nirvana). Only a few material things in life interests me. Not really expensive , but hard to procure and maintain.

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Technically I could at 55, but too young to stop when body and soul and mind still can plough on... dont want to be senile staying idle...

But I shudder the day when I have to let go..
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post Jan 26 2024, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 26 2024, 09:17 AM)
Ahhh...
The day many people doing deposit into EPF...
Rushing the dateline for the January month contribution... 😁

Apps already crashed
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Luckily all done before holidays....
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post Jan 30 2024, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 30 2024, 11:25 AM)
Hmm...i've made another transaction to EPF just now using the app. It captures my transaction immediately in the app, but total amount is not reflected yet. Will this transaction make it for this month? The transaction date shows 30th January 2024.
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Pretty sure you will it by Thursday morning in the total amount...same thing like mine. Show successful transaction but total amount delayed by 2vwd.
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post Feb 3 2024, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Feb 2 2024, 03:39 PM)
thanks for answering my not so stupid question of potong more than 13%. As my age is catching up i am slowly moving my FD and ASM into EPF.

2024 - 51 years old to max RM100k as not going to renew my FD but anything mature will go into EPF an continue to buy ASM for any left over. Will no longer be keeping FD anymore this year

2025 - 52 years old to start selling my ASM and move to EPF and will also MAX out 100k and this is where i will start to ask HR to deduct 25% of my salary to EPF

2026 - 53 years old continue to sell ASM and Max out 100k and increase EPF contribution to 35% and by my own calculation this is the year where i should hit RM1.0 Million. If anything emergency i still can withdraw from EPF for anything about 1.0M and sell more ASM if needed

2027 - 54 years old, continue to sell ASM and max out 100k and continue with 35% of salary deduction

2028 - 55 years old is when i retire and i dont think i will have income and i should be sitting with about 1.3 milion to live out whatever life i have and if company dont fire me i will still work and accumulate EPF. this is the year also my housing loan should be cleared.

i did not make it in life and i dont think 1.3 million is going to make me rich, all i am hoping for is that it can last me for 25 years assuming that i live till 80 years old

1.3million with assumption of 5.5% dividend i will have about 6k per month to support my family. good luck to me

i am hoping to get up to 1.5M to 2M if possible but i dont think is  possible
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That 1.3m at 5.5% will last you more than 25yrs at 6k monthly. Infact you still have 1.27m at the end without inflation rate build into your 6k withdrawal. Infact you can max it to 8k a month but you will be left with zero at 25th yrs.

Try to hit 1,5m, at 8k monthly, you still have 770k at 25th years.

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post Feb 3 2024, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Feb 2 2024, 04:11 PM)
good idea also.. no matter what max 100k is a must for this year and the next 3 years if i need to hit my goal of 1.5Million
my own calculation is 1.3 million right now when i reach 55 years old

anyone here know how is life when stop working? I am a little scare... is just 4 years away...
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I will be 55 in next few months.... I'm going to stay employed until 60 unless they kick me out.

It is little unsettling the thought of no longer working but I have been mentally preparing myself for such transition last few years.

Will still do gig job like consulting, corporare oaching/training, etc or contract term with my ex Co etc.

If not working out, Heck I will go back to school and do a master program just to keep brain from senility....

Other than health cost at that age, all major expenses is settled. Collehe funds prepped, no loan etc... just insurance payments until 65.

But I do have vice..... cars... love driving.... so will likely get a drop top MX5 or GR86/BRZ before i lose the borrowing/loan capacity and drive like it's stolen.... until not physically able to...then sell off and buy ah pek lowly city or P2 putt around...or any within old farts physical limit.

And yes keep up the physical movements... friendship Tok kok sing song....

This post has been edited by gamenoob: Feb 3 2024, 06:17 PM
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post Feb 5 2024, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(theevilman1909 @ Feb 5 2024, 11:02 AM)
Sorry for not being clear enough in my question...

What I meant is... Your percentage for each product...

How much you split for each... Let's say Rize, you keep like 20% of your total $$$, EPF like 30%...
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Ya would be interesting for learning albeit the distribution are highly dependence on one risk profile.

And as one age, the profile will change too...
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post Feb 6 2024, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Feb 5 2024, 10:42 PM)
I’m deducting 17% now.
Possible to go higher I think.
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What the max?
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post Feb 6 2024, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 5 2024, 10:55 PM)
Page 171, post 3409 mentioned

"doing 100k + 60% potong"
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What is this 60% deduction? Isn't there a cap for max monthly deduction?
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post Feb 6 2024, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Feb 6 2024, 08:08 AM)
Your nett salary.
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Really...?
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post Feb 6 2024, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Feb 6 2024, 10:13 AM)
Not sure, I could not find any regulations to this topic in the EPF website.
However, I'm tempted to say you can whack whole salary into EPF, just leave a bit for the monthly PCB + SOCSO.
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I also confused can't find the info on what the max employee contribution can go for... some mentioned full, some say 20%, 19%..... check kwsp site also no such info...
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post Feb 9 2024, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 8 2024, 10:06 PM)
Ooh...
The divvy till 75 is true? Wow...

Probably true, it's depending on Malaysia longevity....

Later maybe new EPF boss comes on board... He change to 100? 😁
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The kwsp dividends is till 100yrs
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post Feb 12 2024, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Feb 12 2024, 03:04 AM)
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I've deposited rm100 from M2U selecting i-saraan but end up above?
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It's not successfully transacted into epf. You check your m2u acct record....
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post Jan 8 2025, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jan 7 2025, 06:02 AM)
Makes sense lah if you are savvy and got other higher yielding and easily liquidable investment vehicles.
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Indeed... if someone have ability/vehicle to hit high yielding within 3 weeks in Jan by all means to have it deposited at very last day of Jan window,....EPF 100k self top up probably rank low on these folks investments portfolio

I'm maxing the epf limit as we speak and be done for 2025... me no have such capability to milk it out more during this period for the amount ...

This post has been edited by gamenoob: Jan 8 2025, 03:32 PM
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post Jan 18 2025, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(jerebubu @ Jan 18 2025, 01:45 PM)
too much hassle, lol
unless someone have an excel sheet for me to keep track then it's fine.

in fact, i was going for the tax relief purpose.
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Ya la ..too much of hasslevto calculate such... with the monthly contribution, you can't take the Dec 31 amount as principal to calculate the actual dividend dollar payout as there are contributed throughout the year....what I see in general, it's about 0.95... to get the actual dividend dollar.

Say 5% dividend of100k principal, that 5k multiply by 0.95, will nett very close to the actual dollar.... at least that what I'm seeing from my epf statement

This post has been edited by gamenoob: Jan 18 2025, 05:06 PM

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