Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

3 Pages  1 2 3 >Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Ford focus 2011/2 tdci mk2

views
     
TSalcatrez
post Feb 17 2019, 08:18 PM, updated 6y ago

On my way
****
Junior Member
539 posts

Joined: Feb 2006
From: Sungai Petani, Kedah


Hi guys,

Just want to know whether this is still a good car to buy?

Anyone has experience on the spare parts, ride quality and reliability?

So far i have not heard any reliability issues.
rcracer
post Feb 17 2019, 09:35 PM

?????
*******
Senior Member
3,743 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
I still see many on the road
dares
post Feb 17 2019, 09:54 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Junior Member
827 posts

Joined: Jul 2011
boonwuilow
thefryingfox
post Feb 17 2019, 09:57 PM

Lonely Maharajah
*******
Senior Member
5,165 posts

Joined: Feb 2005
For the price...cannot get a better rdeal wit that torque...damn high 320nm

I think second hand about 40k
TSalcatrez
post Feb 17 2019, 11:02 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
539 posts

Joined: Feb 2006
From: Sungai Petani, Kedah


QUOTE(rcracer @ Feb 17 2019, 09:35 PM)
I still see many on the road
*
Not many diesel version.

Most likely petrol is aplenty
TSalcatrez
post Feb 17 2019, 11:03 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
539 posts

Joined: Feb 2006
From: Sungai Petani, Kedah


QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Feb 17 2019, 09:57 PM)
For the price...cannot get a better rdeal wit that torque...damn high 320nm

I think second hand about 40k
*
Totally agree it is a bargain. Just need to know spare parts availability
rcracer
post Feb 17 2019, 11:06 PM

?????
*******
Senior Member
3,743 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(alcatrez @ Feb 17 2019, 11:03 PM)
Totally agree it is a bargain. Just need to know spare parts availability
*
should not be a problem

I know kemuncak auto in segambut are specialist stockists for Ford cars and mazda , in sure they can source anything
boonwuilow
post Feb 17 2019, 11:52 PM

Diesel rocks
*******
Senior Member
3,794 posts

Joined: Oct 2009
From: Cheras, Selangor


QUOTE(alcatrez @ Feb 17 2019, 08:18 PM)
Hi guys,

Just want to know whether this is still a good car to buy?

Anyone has experience on the spare parts, ride quality and reliability?

So far i have not heard any reliability issues.
*
As a current owner here what i can tell u...

If u judge the car by the price vs what it can give u, yes is a damn good car to buy. Current sedan is ~RM25-28k while hatch is ~RM28-32K. Why? Go and look for other car with the same price range, u will probably find myvi / swift / vios / city. Those car, they aren't gonna handle like the focus, caused focus comes with ford "control blade" multi-link rear suspension (which Mk3 focus is still using btw), with a set of good tyre like mine with pilot sport 4, u can corner few time better than other car. As for the performance, which car at the price range gonna give u 320nm (340nm on over boost) factory torque? 0-100 in like 8.5-9.5 seconds, with the 6 speed DCT wet dual-clutch transmission (Getrag 6DCT450), it just makes the car even more fun to drive. The max torque is available from 1800-3500rpm (it rev all the way to 4500rpm before shifting if u step on it long enough), so yeah basically every gear change u are basically recycling the torque cause half throttle it will rev till 3500rpm next gear change drop back to 2000rpm. As for fuel consumption, i can achieve 850km / tank eco driving, 650-700km / tank normal driving and 550-600km / tank maniac driving. My lowest recorded fuel consumption ? 4.6L / 100km while going to Penang from KL, with the calculation, 1000km / tank is achievable. Is a 53L fuel tank btw. So here u go, handling + performance + fuel economy + cheap to own + fun to drive in one single package. And best of all... if u dislike some ppl on the road, just go infront of them and humiliate them with diesel smoke.

Spare parts $$ and availability ? Please don't compare it with any local / Jap car, is very expensive... like 3 times at least... Oil filter RM70, air filter RM100, diesel filter RM220, engine oil 6L u do the math see how good of a oil u want to use (I use liqui moly molygen), DCT oil filter RM300, DCT oil RM80-100 / L (will require 6-7L)... These are the regular service. Filters are hard to find btw, not all shop carry. Last time when i replace all the suspension components (all shock absorber, lower control arm, rear suspension bushing, front sway bar link) total cost me RM3500. Just 1 pcs of shock absorber on focus = vios / city replace all 4. And gear selector linkage RM200. Timing belt set last i ask would cost RM1500.

Ride quality, is up to my specification, cause i prefer a stiffer chassis / suspension. Seat those are comfortable for me. Just that when driving that time the car will give u a presence of object on the outside is actually too close to the car, this is what i dislike, especially when parking u look out from inside is very close as of almost hitting the wall or whatever, but when look from the outside still got quite some space. When i ask my friend, he say that still Japanese / local car are more comfortable on uneven road surface due to their softer suspension, i guess why they don't handle well this have some contribution as well. Road noise for me is somewhat okay... but depends on what tyre u use and what road surface (like cement / tarmac / newly paved tarmac), with pilot sport 4 on cement road, the noise is unbearable to me at cement road. For interior harshness, there is very very minor diesel vibration and noise, rest assured is refined enough.

Reliability... well... i have own the car for 2 years straight, driven it everyday ever since the day i got it from the used car dealer for an average of 100km / day, and it never break down even once. Currently clocked 150k km on the odo, compared with my dad's Nissan x-trail last time at that millage, already break down multiple times. The engine is co-developed between ford & peugeot, model is PSA DW10BTED4 / RHR, is shared with Volvo / PSA / Ford, if u google search it, user from euro country say is one of the best diesel engine u can get. Some already had over 300k miles still running strong without overhauling. For the wet dual-clutch transmission, is almost trouble free, it don't have the kind of problem like those dry clutch DSG or fiesta. The clutch itself is always bath in gear oil, I know an owner already clocked 200k km still on original clutch. But please do not drive it like a conventional torque converter automatic, it will wear the clutch faster. Don't do slow creep on traffic.

Common issue faced by me, gear selector linkage broken last time, however i still manage to manually rehook it at the engine bay and drive it to workshop and get it replaced. And also now leaking some oil from the flywheel oil seal which is also another common issue, cost about RM300 to replaced. Another issue is tyre wear, the rear tend to wear slightly more than front due to the rear has slightly more camber than the front, just make sure you rotate tyre every service should be fine. Other stories i heard is crack turbo hose and intercooler housing, which haven't happen to me yet.

So conclusion is... is a fun to drive, handle great, felt really solid, rare to be seen, but in the end probably whatever u saved up from fuel efficiency still gonna have to be spent on parts. Is worth it if u ask me, especially if u can easily shame other ricer car.
Quazacolt
post Feb 18 2019, 12:52 AM

Riding couple
*******
Senior Member
5,216 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: KL Malaysia


QUOTE(boonwuilow @ Feb 17 2019, 11:52 PM)
which car at the price range gonna give u 320nm (340nm on over boost) factory torque? 0-100 in like 8.5-9.5 seconds, with the 6 speed DCT wet dual-clutch transmission (Getrag 6DCT450), it just makes the car even more fun to drive.
*
Just curious, how heavy is the car?
You did it manual control or just Auto sport mode or something?
On GPS or meter?

I've done 7.6 seconds 0 to 100 phone GPS clocked (not car meter) with third gear shift done for my Toyota GT86.

I don't think I would be shifting faster than DCT?

Side note: brochure/marketing is done on 2nd gear as you'd hit the rev limit of 7400 just slightly above 100 kph on meter, but GPS won't hit
Quazacolt
post Feb 18 2019, 01:02 AM

Riding couple
*******
Senior Member
5,216 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: KL Malaysia


https://fastestlaps.com/models/ford-focus-2-0-tdci-2010
Correct model?

https://fastestlaps.com/models/toyota-gt86
Dafuq 6.9
And I was celebrating with 7.6s 🤣

And I guess the 200 kilos difference mattered
boonwuilow
post Feb 18 2019, 11:33 AM

Diesel rocks
*******
Senior Member
3,794 posts

Joined: Oct 2009
From: Cheras, Selangor


QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 18 2019, 12:52 AM)
Just curious, how heavy is the car?
You did it manual control or just Auto sport mode or something?
On GPS or meter?

I've done 7.6 seconds 0 to 100 phone GPS clocked (not car meter) with third gear shift done for my Toyota GT86.

I don't think I would be shifting faster than DCT?

Side note: brochure/marketing is done on 2nd gear as you'd hit the rev limit of 7400 just slightly above 100 kph on meter, but GPS won't hit
*
It weight about 1350-1400kg (sedan). I did it on auto sport mode, i m getting high 8 seconds if not low 9 seconds by judging on the meter.
From my experience with a few car, usually the speedometer is not accurate after certain speed. For example my car below 90 kph is accurate, but after 100 kph is not accurate, like if i driving at 120 kph, but gps is showing 110 kph.
6UE5T
post Feb 18 2019, 11:45 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,704 posts

Joined: Sep 2012
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 18 2019, 12:52 AM)
Just curious, how heavy is the car?
You did it manual control or just Auto sport mode or something?
On GPS or meter?

I've done 7.6 seconds 0 to 100 phone GPS clocked (not car meter) with third gear shift done for my Toyota GT86.

I don't think I would be shifting faster than DCT?

Side note: brochure/marketing is done on 2nd gear as you'd hit the rev limit of 7400 just slightly above 100 kph on meter, but GPS won't hit
*
Speedo is often overstated, often around 5-8kph.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 18 2019, 01:02 AM)
https://fastestlaps.com/models/ford-focus-2-0-tdci-2010
Correct model?

https://fastestlaps.com/models/toyota-gt86
Dafuq 6.9
And I was celebrating with 7.6s 🤣

And I guess the 200 kilos difference mattered
*
That's normal la, factory numbers are often difficult to replicate on real situations because they use pro drivers with the most aggressive launch to get the best acceleration numbers.

My Mark X is also about 7.5-7.6secs based on some speedmeter apps, while factory stat is about 7.7 but I already mod with shorter final gear, otherwise only around 8secs. But I don't do hard launch, worry about the auto gearbox.
Quazacolt
post Feb 18 2019, 07:30 PM

Riding couple
*******
Senior Member
5,216 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: KL Malaysia


QUOTE(boonwuilow @ Feb 18 2019, 11:33 AM)
It weight about 1350-1400kg (sedan). I did it on auto sport mode, i m getting high 8 seconds if not low 9 seconds by judging on the meter.
From my experience with a few car, usually the speedometer is not accurate after certain speed. For example my car below 90 kph is accurate, but after 100 kph is not accurate, like if i driving at 120 kph, but gps is showing 110 kph.
*
Probably just tolerance of 2 to 10% depending on manufacturers/models and since % based, the higher the speed the higher the variation compared to GPS.

From my brief experience of Ford DCT (focus petrol) was very pleasant and it was in my consideration many years back prior to my stick shift obsession lol
Quazacolt
post Feb 18 2019, 07:33 PM

Riding couple
*******
Senior Member
5,216 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: KL Malaysia


QUOTE(6UE5T @ Feb 18 2019, 11:45 AM)
But I don't do hard launch, worry about the auto gearbox.
*
Well there are proper ways to launch a slosh box XD

Back on thread: Focus TDCI is a serious good consideration and almost no brainer if it weren't for diesel pricing getting more expensive compared to many years back
boonwuilow
post Feb 19 2019, 12:45 AM

Diesel rocks
*******
Senior Member
3,794 posts

Joined: Oct 2009
From: Cheras, Selangor


QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 18 2019, 07:30 PM)
Probably just tolerance of 2 to 10% depending on manufacturers/models and since % based, the higher the speed the higher the variation compared to GPS.

From my brief experience of Ford DCT (focus petrol) was very pleasant and it was in my consideration many years back prior to my stick shift obsession lol
*
I think is more towards they wanna make the fuel consumption seems legit that why after certain speed the speedo become not accurate.

Those dry clutches is only good when they are new, or your drive will never encounter any sorts of traffic jam. A lot of them after long term facing juddering and shuddering issue. Any ford workshop u go can see either fiesta or mk3 focus with the transmission removed from the engine waiting for clutch replacement.
boonwuilow
post Feb 19 2019, 12:51 AM

Diesel rocks
*******
Senior Member
3,794 posts

Joined: Oct 2009
From: Cheras, Selangor


QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 18 2019, 07:33 PM)
Well there are proper ways to launch a slosh box XD

Back on thread: Focus TDCI is a serious good consideration and almost no brainer if it weren't for diesel pricing getting more expensive compared to many years back
*
U mean like launch it by holding the brake while pressing the throttle and follow by sudden release of the brake brows.gif ?

But still ok la, considering that it is really fuel efficient, even petrol car lower cc than mine still cannot beat me. And i also forgot to mention that if you got a lemon used car with faulty injectors / high pressure diesel pump, those injectors ain't cheap, at least RM1000 / unit x 4.
Quazacolt
post Feb 19 2019, 01:35 AM

Riding couple
*******
Senior Member
5,216 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: KL Malaysia


QUOTE(boonwuilow @ Feb 19 2019, 12:51 AM)
U mean like launch it by holding the brake while pressing the throttle and follow by sudden release of the brake  brows.gif ?

But still ok la, considering that it is really fuel efficient, even petrol car lower cc than mine still cannot beat me. And i also forgot to mention that if you got a lemon used car with faulty injectors / high pressure diesel pump, those injectors ain't cheap, at least RM1000 / unit x 4.
*
Yeah XD

and tell me about injectors lol... My car have 8 cry.gif

I think even with a lemon, considering the price you're buying it, it'll probably still be a decent/worthy buy imho
6UE5T
post Feb 19 2019, 08:13 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,704 posts

Joined: Sep 2012
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 18 2019, 07:33 PM)
Well there are proper ways to launch a slosh box XD
...
*
Yeah I know that but I don't do it.
boonwuilow
post Feb 19 2019, 10:33 AM

Diesel rocks
*******
Senior Member
3,794 posts

Joined: Oct 2009
From: Cheras, Selangor


QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 19 2019, 01:35 AM)
Yeah XD

and tell me about injectors lol... My car have 8 cry.gif

I think even with a lemon, considering the price you're buying it, it'll probably still be a decent/worthy buy imho
*
I don't think that way will cause much harm la, cause torque converter is designed for that, just a fluid coupling. Those pickup truck maniac do that all the time while staging for drag just so that they can built enough boost on their cummins that usually well over 600hp. Unless is neutral drop, that where the trouble comes devil.gif

What car u driving with 8 injectors ?
Quazacolt
post Feb 19 2019, 01:42 PM

Riding couple
*******
Senior Member
5,216 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: KL Malaysia


QUOTE(boonwuilow @ Feb 19 2019, 10:33 AM)
I don't think that way will cause much harm la, cause torque converter is designed for that, just a fluid coupling.

What car u driving with 8 injectors ?
*
Would it be same for the TDCI launching even if it's dual clutch?

As posted above, Toyota GT86
4 Port and 4 direct injectors

3 Pages  1 2 3 >Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0180sec    0.10    5 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 29th March 2024 - 01:21 AM