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Masili E300 BluetecHybrid Battery Replacement Cost
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Feb 17 2019, 02:00 PM, updated 7y ago
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Who is going to buy this car if without any warranty?
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Feb 17 2019, 02:03 PM
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Can get at spare part shop or not?
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Yup this the ballpark figure i heard.
If me i just bypass. |
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Feb 17 2019, 02:05 PM
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Standard /k reply: if you need to worry about cost of battery, you cannot afford it. pcdoctor_my liked this post
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Feb 17 2019, 02:05 PM
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See can buy from Ali express or not
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I rather sell the car and buy a new car with that kinda money.
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Feb 17 2019, 02:06 PM
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tescogot?
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Feb 17 2019, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Feb 17 2019, 02:00 PM) Who is going to buy this car if without any warranty? I already replace mine not to long ago.https://www.facebook.com/346813648700803/po...95355807179903/ ![]() ![]() |
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Feb 17 2019, 02:08 PM
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Jus buy power bank to replace it lo
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Feb 17 2019, 02:11 PM
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bruh wtf? why so exp?? i just checked online battery so cheap..merchisdes yahudi scammer smh
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Feb 17 2019, 02:22 PM
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They say that driving a hybrid is very economical.
That's only true if the battery don't die out. I'm glad I drive a normal car. |
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Feb 17 2019, 02:24 PM
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Baca2 at UK forum. The battery is about £6000.
Convert pun 31k MYR. Plus shipping, tax etc 40K should be ada balance still. 120K ini markup margin more than 50% liao. |
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Feb 17 2019, 02:25 PM
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Can by pass and run without the hybrid?
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Feb 17 2019, 02:26 PM
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Feb 17 2019, 02:32 PM
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Loan 9 years sure cry
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maybe thats why americans and australian love high displacement NA cars
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Feb 17 2019, 02:38 PM
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No warranty?
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Feb 17 2019, 02:39 PM
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Wait until you see Tesla Battery Replacement.
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wow.. hybrid punya pasal..
kidney trade pun not enough |
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Feb 17 2019, 02:46 PM
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but owners will still brag
penang -> singkakpork -> penang balik only use a quarter of the tank lol |
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That's why hybrid cannot be cost effective vehicle.
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Feb 17 2019, 02:50 PM
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Kek...can buy 1 brand new civic ketam
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Feb 17 2019, 02:56 PM
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No warranty? How come never hear other owners complain about the costs to change battery?
Whole Msia only one e300 bluetec? Besides this car mileage only 56k. I doubt the owner paid |
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Feb 17 2019, 02:58 PM
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Lol! That battery RM100K?
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Feb 17 2019, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Feb 17 2019, 02:24 PM) Baca2 at UK forum. The battery is about £6000. Merc Malaysia has one of the most exp service costs. Last time i change brake pad also costs me 2k for front pads only. Convert pun 31k MYR. Plus shipping, tax etc 40K should be ada balance still. 120K ini markup margin more than 50% liao. Superbly overpriced . Thats hw they maintain their nice showrooms |
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Feb 17 2019, 03:01 PM
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expensive car
hybrid? wan save money on petrol ? ?????? |
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just want to know if the car can still run with thosr kaput fancy battery. i know nowdays marcidi have tons of electronics
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Feb 17 2019, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Feb 17 2019, 03:00 PM) Merc Malaysia has one of the most exp service costs. Last time i change brake pad also costs me 2k for front pads only. Don’t think so. Got a gut feeling it’s to pay for a qualified technicician from another country to perform the repair and train up the local workforce. And of course offset the cost to the customer.Superbly overpriced . Thats hw they maintain their nice showrooms |
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Feb 17 2019, 03:08 PM
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And only 57k on the odometer kek
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120k can buy two truck loads of fuel park outside home for the rest of ur life leh
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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Feb 17 2019, 02:24 PM) Baca2 at UK forum. The battery is about £6000. 40k is just the batteryConvert pun 31k MYR. Plus shipping, tax etc 40K should be ada balance still. 120K ini markup margin more than 50% liao. not including other component that attached to it not including the wages of swap by an expert, u really think any down the tree mechanic can do battery swap? |
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Feb 17 2019, 03:12 PM) 40k is just the battery They given breakdown of all small costs and only the battery was 120k. Even then there’s no description or part number. If it’s what you said it is then SC is not being transparent to customer and main hantam quote.not including other component that attached to it not including the wages of swap by an expert, u really think any down the tree mechanic can do battery swap? |
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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Feb 17 2019, 03:18 PM) They given breakdown of all small costs and only the battery was 120k. Even then there’s no description or part number. If it’s what you said it is then SC is not being transparent to customer and main hantam quote. about are mostly labour charges on certain diagnosticbut what can u do, u need someone trained to do it else you're the one being burned to death if any short happens if u go rich rebuild channel, he got show what happen to the teala battery pack if badly installed/not correctly installed This post has been edited by MR_alien: Feb 17 2019, 03:22 PM |
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With that price can buy New Ioniq. 8 years warranty
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Feb 17 2019, 03:31 PM
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With cheap fuel here, hybrids are not economical to own. Yes, u only pump once it twice a month but maintenance alone will be more than owning a non-hybrid model for life.
In Cambodia, car dealers would import dead Prius from US and replace the batteries by swapping the dead cells with good cells from another car. The donor car can be from police impound lot or bank repo lots. As long have under table money, all can settle. |
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Feb 17 2019, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Feb 17 2019, 02:24 PM) Baca2 at UK forum. The battery is about £6000. Convert pun 31k MYR. Plus shipping, tax etc 40K should be ada balance still. 120K ini markup margin more than 50% liao. QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Feb 17 2019, 02:27 PM) Go singapore beli also cheaper. |
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Feb 17 2019, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Feb 17 2019, 03:24 PM) Yeap. So it seems that quotation is fake. RM2.6k just warranty coverage.Hw the hell a battery costs 120k is beyond me. Must be some admin fella just printed it out for fun. If fake confirm MBM will sue kau the person for doing shit that could very much affect their bottom line. |
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Feb 17 2019, 03:24 PM) Yeap. So it seems that quotation is fake. Fake don’t think so. But if you look at how the quotation is structured, I would say hybrid battery replacement is not a standard service that they would do nor done before.Hw the hell a battery costs 120k is beyond me. Must be some admin fella just printed it out for fun. All other services and parts are neatly broken down with cost except for the hybrid battery which was written as Li On battery. There was no further breakdown for the labor, and accompanying parts. This only make me think that they have not done this before and hence; the estimation. |
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I wonder how the guy pay the cost?
Say i am able to pay rm 5k installment monthly but one time fok out 120k is huge vommitment neh |
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They buy hybrid is because it's cheaper due to tax incentive for ckd hybrid vehicles.
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Feb 17 2019, 05:06 PM
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Battery dia warranty brapa lama?
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Hybrid car is such a scam business.
Buying a 300k car with 100k hybrid battery replacement is pure stupidity |
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hahahahahahaha.
honda only 4 to 5.5k. honda > all |
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y would anyone spend that sorta money on hybrids tho? seems like the battery pack cost more than fuel savings. wanna brag with expensive cars, might as well buy a good petrol powered car, so u wont come off looking stingy n poor from driving hybrids.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Feb 17 2019, 03:31 PM) With cheap fuel here, hybrids are not economical to own. Yes, u only pump once it twice a month but maintenance alone will be more than owning a non-hybrid model for life. In Cambodia, car dealers would import dead Prius from US and replace the batteries by swapping the dead cells with good cells from another car. The donor car can be from police impound lot or bank repo lots. As long have under table money, all can settle. QUOTE(shirohamada @ Feb 17 2019, 05:07 PM) Ya lor.. I think only hybrid ioniq, toyota and honda worth it to get.Replacement all in below 10k. All this conti really brainless. 100k for battery, topkek. |
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QUOTE(acbc @ Feb 17 2019, 03:31 PM) With cheap fuel here, hybrids are not economical to own. Yes, u only pump once it twice a month but maintenance alone will be more than owning a non-hybrid model for life. Alot Prius running in Cambodia ??? In Cambodia, car dealers would import dead Prius from US and replace the batteries by swapping the dead cells with good cells from another car. The donor car can be from police impound lot or bank repo lots. As long have under table money, all can settle. |
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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Feb 17 2019, 02:24 PM) Baca2 at UK forum. The battery is about £6000. Shipping not cheap. Tax not cheap, and markup lgila not cheap. Even small parts at sc, they sc will mark up double, same goes to this battery. LelConvert pun 31k MYR. Plus shipping, tax etc 40K should be ada balance still. 120K ini markup margin more than 50% liao. That explain rm120k charge. Crazy indeed. |
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you can get reconditioned cells and install yourself.
as for merc and bmw. better buy full electric. This post has been edited by shirohamada: Feb 17 2019, 05:20 PM |
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Feb 17 2019, 05:12 PM) Plenty mostly 2nd gen Prius selling below USD 10k. Mostly used as taxis. Grab or PassApp also have.Dead Prius also sellable. Usually below USD 5K. Even 1st gen also still working. Around USD 3k can get a working one. Mind u, the battery replacement is DIY. Buy salvaged cells and fix it yourself. They used ChrisFix tutorials. This post has been edited by acbc: Feb 17 2019, 05:25 PM |
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So...baoteng > misilis?
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Coincidently I just pass by a merc e300 waiting to be towed.
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Leasing cars should be the way forward for PHEVs and EVs
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Thought of buying bmw 330e next but with all the horror stories of replacing hybrid battery at exorbitant price, i decided to stick with my trusty honda city hybrid.
8 years hybrid battery warranty with rm5000 replacement after warranty ends. Honda > all |
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Feb 17 2019, 08:27 PM) Thought of buying bmw 330e next but with all the horror stories of replacing hybrid battery at exorbitant price, i decided to stick with my trusty honda city hybrid. That is provided you continue servicing the car at authorized SC even after 5 years, where the warranty for other parts is over?8 years hybrid battery warranty with rm5000 replacement after warranty ends. Honda > all |
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Feb 17 2019, 08:42 PM) That is provided you continue servicing the car at authorized SC even after 5 years, where the warranty for other parts is over? Yeah i will continue to service at SC after 5 years.Thought of sticking to the car for at least 10 years or so. Let see how it goes. So far the car is 1 year old. No problem so far *touchwood* |
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Feb 17 2019, 08:27 PM) Thought of buying bmw 330e next but with all the horror stories of replacing hybrid battery at exorbitant price, i decided to stick with my trusty honda city hybrid. Honda Hybrid consider trusty already ??? 8 years hybrid battery warranty with rm5000 replacement after warranty ends. Honda > all 7speed dual clutch gear box clocked how many KM already ? |
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Feb 17 2019, 08:27 PM) Thought of buying bmw 330e next but with all the horror stories of replacing hybrid battery at exorbitant price, i decided to stick with my trusty honda city hybrid. Mind u, honda is using dry dual clutch. The same dry dsgs which gave ford n vw the headaches back then until they both did away with it.8 years hybrid battery warranty with rm5000 replacement after warranty ends. Honda > all All the best yeah. |
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QUOTE(acbc @ Feb 17 2019, 05:23 PM) Plenty mostly 2nd gen Prius selling below USD 10k. Mostly used as taxis. Grab or PassApp also have. US Prius with dead battery selling less than 2k USDDead Prius also sellable. Usually below USD 5K. Even 1st gen also still working. Around USD 3k can get a working one. Mind u, the battery replacement is DIY. Buy salvaged cells and fix it yourself. They used ChrisFix tutorials. I saw a few videos on the battery company. They took in a lot of spoil battery, then refurbish them by changing bad cells in it. not sure which part but either end or mid of battery cells will fail first. The rest is still good for a few years. Btw China has come out with cells replacement as well, not sure how reliable compared to original ones from Japan |
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Feb 17 2019, 08:54 PM) right now nearly 20,000 km.so far no problem on the DCT. *touchwood* i ain't be using it to ricer on highways or normal roads. just cruising slowly at 90-100km/h, taking my time. hypermile it sometime to get 28-30 km/l FC. people think if buy H cars, need to drive fast fast. i'd say they are stupid to do so. enjoy the ride slowly while enjoying the splendid view of the world. bawak kaluit nak pi mana? actually i got another honda BRV using CVT at home; my wife's. if i took city V spec which is using CVT, got 2 CVTs boring la. CVT & DCT, can learn & experience the differences. but of course, i am aware of the cost analysis of using hybrid car in the long run. that's why i am prepared financially for it. if not, i would not dare to buy entry level hybrid car like honda city hybrid. although, i dare not to venture into expensive hybrid like the conti cars though. |
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Chris Fix already made tutorial for battery replacement. Plus there's community in Malaysia doing the replacement. Can find them in fb https://www.facebook.com/groups/HVBatRepair/?flyingspaghettimonster=share |
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Feb 17 2019, 10:13 PM
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oh boy i just bought bmw 330e hybrid too, with 5 years warranty/service. hope to sell it off after 5 years
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Why are you so surprised? My boss drove his S400 into a tree. It didn't involve battery but I believe the quotation by the insurance claim is around 100K++. Even with that ridiculous figure, his car was stuck in SC for a year because no one in MY knew how to assemble the replacement parts (engine, gearbox, whatever,.. not sure what's going on). Finally after some raging, a team was sent over from Germany to fix it. Not sure who paid for it though. Guess what, he totalled it in less than 6 months and got a brand new one. What a waste.
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Feb 17 2019, 10:25 PM
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/k/ only need 6 months to recover from the slap
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 17 2019, 10:22 PM) Why are you so surprised? My boss drove his S400 into a tree. It didn't involve battery but I believe the quotation by the insurance claim is around 100K++. Even with that ridiculous figure, his car was stuck in SC for a year because no one in MY knew how to assemble the replacement parts (engine, gearbox, whatever,.. not sure what's going on). Finally after some raging, a team was sent over from Germany to fix it. Not sure who paid for it though. Guess what, he totalled it in less than 6 months and got a brand new one. What a waste. If a car hit a tree i would total lost it as well |
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Feb 17 2019, 09:49 PM) right now nearly 20,000 km. When traffic jam, no view to see la unless admiring other people's car. Cruising in the highway also difficult coz too many idiots hogging the lanes. Tats why i don't even use my cruise control coz will drive until i wana sleep. My car will even prompt coffee time, lol.. The only worthwhile cruise control is 'adaptive cruise control with lane assist feature'so far no problem on the DCT. *touchwood* i ain't be using it to ricer on highways or normal roads. just cruising slowly at 90-100km/h, taking my time. hypermile it sometime to get 28-30 km/l FC. people think if buy H cars, need to drive fast fast. i'd say they are stupid to do so. enjoy the ride slowly while enjoying the splendid view of the world. bawak kaluit nak pi mana? actually i got another honda BRV using CVT at home; my wife's. if i took city V spec which is using CVT, got 2 CVTs boring la. CVT & DCT, can learn & experience the differences. but of course, i am aware of the cost analysis of using hybrid car in the long run. that's why i am prepared financially for it. if not, i would not dare to buy entry level hybrid car like honda city hybrid. although, i dare not to venture into expensive hybrid like the conti cars though. |
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Feb 17 2019, 09:49 PM) right now nearly 20,000 km. Well, me close to 35k KM.so far no problem on the DCT. *touchwood* i ain't be using it to ricer on highways or normal roads. just cruising slowly at 90-100km/h, taking my time. hypermile it sometime to get 28-30 km/l FC. people think if buy H cars, need to drive fast fast. i'd say they are stupid to do so. enjoy the ride slowly while enjoying the splendid view of the world. bawak kaluit nak pi mana? actually i got another honda BRV using CVT at home; my wife's. if i took city V spec which is using CVT, got 2 CVTs boring la. CVT & DCT, can learn & experience the differences. but of course, i am aware of the cost analysis of using hybrid car in the long run. that's why i am prepared financially for it. if not, i would not dare to buy entry level hybrid car like honda city hybrid. although, i dare not to venture into expensive hybrid like the conti cars though. Some times spirited drive and so far the DCT is still doing well. Same fuel economy as you. Jazz hybrid. |
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Feb 17 2019, 10:52 PM
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Wtf, might as well get a new civic altis or even a x70 is as comfortable as the stupid merc.
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Feb 17 2019, 10:54 PM
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when japs car hybrid battery in malaysia cost about 8k till 10k....u guys expect merc to have same pricing meh.
even with cost of 10k...malaysian still nags when need to change |
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Feb 17 2019, 10:27 PM) Well, I think most people would expect fast repair since it's a Merc and the approved repair was over 100k. My boss was probably reluctant to total it since I heard he paid the SA some figures just to cut queue to get his car ahead of schedule. He was most frustrated when it was stuck for months. That's why when he encountered the 2nd accident, he decided to totalled it. It's not easy to total lost a 600k car if you don't spent some money. From those pictures that were shown, the 100k repair bill is mind boggling. |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 17 2019, 11:31 PM) Well, I think most people would expect fast repair since it's a Merc and the approved repair was over 100k. My boss was probably reluctant to total it since I heard he paid the SA some figures just to cut queue to get his car ahead of schedule. He was most frustrated when it was stuck for months. That's why when he encountered the 2nd accident, he decided to totalled it. It's not easy to total lost a 600k car if you don't spent some money. From those pictures that were shown, the 100k repair bill is mind boggling. all the parts mark up kau kau lo.simple search using the part number shows the e300 battery cost 9k euro, but why here cost over 100k? |
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Feb 17 2019, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 17 2019, 11:35 PM) all the parts mark up kau kau lo. There's probably other charges incurred like taxes, insurance. Not to mention the SC also tried to be safe, charging extra in case the work was beyond their ability to solve. Who knows for real.simple search using the part number shows the e300 battery cost 9k euro, but why here cost over 100k? |
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Feb 17 2019, 11:52 PM
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ill buy another e300 bluetec in that case...
old one standby for spare parts only.. kehkehkeh |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 17 2019, 11:49 PM) There's probably other charges incurred like taxes, insurance. Not to mention the SC also tried to be safe, charging extra in case the work was beyond their ability to solve. Who knows for real. any extra work will still be itemized la. u think lump inside one line meh? u didnt see the paper? so many other lines of small charges already. disconnect high voltage board also show itemized charge. |
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Feb 18 2019, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Feb 17 2019, 04:27 PM) QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Feb 17 2019, 05:18 PM) They given breakdown of all small costs and only the battery was 120k. Even then there’s no description or part number. If it’s what you said it is then SC is not being transparent to customer and main hantam quote. QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Feb 17 2019, 05:36 PM) problem is not the batt, problem is who to help change?QUOTE(Boy96 @ Feb 17 2019, 05:21 PM) i think not valid if purchased 2nd hand |
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Feb 18 2019, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Feb 17 2019, 09:18 PM) Yeah i notice this, but Geely do not disclose who is the manufacturer of the gearbox. I suppose it is from in-house technology by Volvo?This post has been edited by JohnKekHow: Feb 18 2019, 12:29 AM |
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Feb 18 2019, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Feb 17 2019, 09:18 PM) I also notice some of Malaysian driving style on using dry/wet clutch, most them just thought it is the same as conventional 4AT...eg: Put the gear into N while waiting at traffic light and also while car is crawling in jam, always moving the car and stop back in short distance intermittently. Might makan the clutch plate as well |
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QUOTE(JohnKekHow @ Feb 18 2019, 12:33 AM) I also notice some of Malaysian driving style on using dry/wet clutch, most them just thought it is the same as conventional 4AT...eg: Put the gear into N while waiting at traffic light and also while car is crawling in jam, always moving the car and stop back in short distance intermittently. Might makan the clutch plate as well Which is correct gear for waiting at traffic lights? P? I usually keep mine at d n press brake. Is that wrong? |
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Shifting to n or p wear the clutch plate. So keeping in d is best option at traffic lights? Mine has auto stop.
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Feb 18 2019, 05:30 AM
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I’m guessing this particular car always park under the hot sun so the battery kaput faster than usual.
Still Honda hybrid battery replacement is less than 10k, toyota rm8500 (not sure prius or prius c) still reasonable price bmw and benz, lol two of the highest cost of spare part car brands in europe |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 17 2019, 11:57 PM) any extra work will still be itemized la. u think lump inside one line meh? u didnt see the paper? so many other lines of small charges already. disconnect high voltage board also show itemized charge. That's workmanship. I'm referring to hidden charges. Of course the battery itself probably end up costing half of the quoted price but they have to make sure everything works and they probably even have some sort of warranty on top of it. They could have end up charging you twice the cost, just to be on the safe side. |
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QUOTE(JohnKekHow @ Feb 18 2019, 12:33 AM) I also notice some of Malaysian driving style on using dry/wet clutch, most them just thought it is the same as conventional 4AT...eg: Put the gear into N while waiting at traffic light and also while car is crawling in jam, always moving the car and stop back in short distance intermittently. Might makan the clutch plate as well Are you serious?If it's use clutches, I would put it in N as well. My apologies for being rude This post has been edited by andrekua2: Feb 18 2019, 08:31 AM |
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Feb 18 2019, 05:30 AM) I’m guessing this particular car always park under the hot sun so the battery kaput faster than usual. 10k I can pump fuel for 3 years man.Still Honda hybrid battery replacement is less than 10k, toyota rm8500 (not sure prius or prius c) still reasonable price bmw and benz, lol two of the highest cost of spare part car brands in europe |
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buy a honda city and the balance can buy fuel for entire car life
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57K km sudah rosak battery? Fark! Better buy Tesla.
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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Feb 18 2019, 07:36 AM) That is why I would N instead. How many people would diligently fully engage the brakes when stationary especially if you're talking about being in traffic jam in everydays' rush hours? I think the engineers have to learn about driving behaviours rather than using their 1+1=2 mentality when it comes to real world application. It is such a grey area. If you want to make clutch transmission, make sure it's mandatory to have brake hold installed. |
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Feb 18 2019, 08:00 AM
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You guys do know its fake right.
If you look at the SST / where got so cheap. 6% of RM120k is already more than that. |
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Feb 18 2019, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE(RoyMcAvoy @ Feb 18 2019, 07:51 AM) It's not surprising. Sometimes the way you use it also affect it's durability especially when it comes to battery. That's why I think hybrid buyers should be those heavy users, who will put enough mileage to have healthy recharge cycles.My company also has a Camry Hybrid in their fleet and already had the battery changed and multiple charging errors. |
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Feb 18 2019, 08:15 AM
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A mechanic that is willing to learn, earn lots of money.
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Feb 18 2019, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(JohnKekHow @ Feb 18 2019, 12:33 AM) I also notice some of Malaysian driving style on using dry/wet clutch, most them just thought it is the same as conventional 4AT...eg: Put the gear into N while waiting at traffic light and also while car is crawling in jam, always moving the car and stop back in short distance intermittently. Might makan the clutch plate as well True this.It’s called CREEPING. Must not do it if using DCT cars. Will damage your transmissions in the long run. Instead, allow for some gap between the front car then only move. But this might give chance for other cars to cut queue though. For long traffic light stops, i just shift to P. For short & medium, i just press on brake pedal. This post has been edited by Zaryl: Feb 18 2019, 08:36 AM |
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assuming monthly petrol usage of RM600 and price per liter remain relatively stable, that 120k can last for 16+ years
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Feb 18 2019, 09:01 AM
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"The battery maybe cheap but knowing how to install one is priceless" - BMW Engineer
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Feb 18 2019, 08:36 AM) True this. What is creeping? Alternate between d and n?It’s called CREEPING. Must not do it if using DCT cars. Will damage your transmissions in the long run. Instead, allow for some gap between the front car then only move. But this might give chance for other cars to cut queue though. For long traffic light stops, i just shift to P. For short & medium, i just press on brake pedal. |
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QUOTE(Twins10 @ Feb 18 2019, 03:47 AM) Which is correct gear for waiting at traffic lights? P?I usually keep mine at d n press brake. Is that wrong? if u use DCT and CVT, engage the gear in D and press Brake while waiting for traffic lights is good enough. Because the clutch will disengages when u press the Brake steeply. So, no need to put on Neutral. This only apply to clutch based transmission, where the clutch is disengage while brake is applied. Conventional auto or cvt that is using torque converter will see pressure built up in torque converter and engine mounting while in D and brake, that is y some auto car after a few years, will vibrate a little bit if holding the brake and stay at D This post has been edited by JohnKekHow: Feb 18 2019, 09:38 AM |
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QUOTE(Aparaa @ Feb 18 2019, 09:01 AM) europeans use this method called planned obsolescence and monopoly over their products maintenance. (much like apple dont let ppl repair outside)even if you know how to replace the battery, there might be certain counters or electronic devices which needed separate tool or programming to reset. without doing the proper way might cause more error messages. the mech here sure need to ask germany that side to guide them. the usual method ppl do outside is they go read their manuals which is compulsory then test it on wrecked car lo..... if lucky can find free on jewtube. even repairing VW mechatronics module can get on jewtube also. |
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Feb 18 2019, 08:36 AM) True this. true.It’s called CREEPING. Must not do it if using DCT cars. Will damage your transmissions in the long run. Instead, allow for some gap between the front car then only move. But this might give chance for other cars to cut queue though. For long traffic light stops, i just shift to P. For short & medium, i just press on brake pedal. allow som gap during jam also actually improve the traffic flow as every1 is braking less often. but, m'sian driving, got a bit gap, sure kena cut in edi. |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 17 2019, 10:22 PM) Why are you so surprised? My boss drove his S400 into a tree. It didn't involve battery but I believe the quotation by the insurance claim is around 100K++. Even with that ridiculous figure, his car was stuck in SC for a year because no one in MY knew how to assemble the replacement parts (engine, gearbox, whatever,.. not sure what's going on). Finally after some raging, a team was sent over from Germany to fix it. Not sure who paid for it though. Guess what, he totalled it in less than 6 months and got a brand new one. What a waste. your boss is a road devil kah? |
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wei wei ... hyundie ioniq battery how much???
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QUOTE(JohnKekHow @ Feb 18 2019, 12:33 AM) I also notice some of Malaysian driving style on using dry/wet clutch, most them just thought it is the same as conventional 4AT...eg: Put the gear into N while waiting at traffic light and also while car is crawling in jam, always moving the car and stop back in short distance intermittently. Might makan the clutch plate as well but for 'manual' clutch tranmission, it is always better to practice using neutral gear when stationary, you dont want clutch to engage much, dunno if dct behave the same. |
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QUOTE(Aparaa @ Feb 18 2019, 09:01 AM) I agree when it comes to rocket or sophisticated technology, but when it comes to car I would just move on.Would give bad reputation to their cars, no one will touch them since there are other cars that does the same job better and for less. |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Feb 17 2019, 09:11 PM) US Prius with dead battery selling less than 2k USD I have checked, those cells sold at RM4800, plus shipping probably 5k or more.I saw a few videos on the battery company. They took in a lot of spoil battery, then refurbish them by changing bad cells in it. not sure which part but either end or mid of battery cells will fail first. The rest is still good for a few years. Btw China has come out with cells replacement as well, not sure how reliable compared to original ones from Japan Official battery 7-8k, but with warranty. For 2-3k difference, that wasn't a great deal after labour and with no warranty, so not a good business to do. |
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Feb 20 2019, 04:55 PM) I have checked, those cells sold at RM4800, plus shipping probably 5k or more. 8k has 8years warranty from japanOfficial battery 7-8k, but with warranty. For 2-3k difference, that wasn't a great deal after labour and with no warranty, so not a good business to do. 5k has less warranty from china. definitely take the 8k |
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Civic hybrid battery rm 5500 but don't know has 8 years like original battery or not.
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Not going to sell my honda since its battery same price as 1 bmw cell.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Feb 18 2019, 03:16 PM) but for 'manual' clutch tranmission, it is always better to practice using neutral gear when stationary, you dont want clutch to engage much, dunno if dct behave the same. In a manual, you physically shift to neutral when stationary.In modern DCTs, if you're in D, fully stopped and foot on brake, it goes to N by itself so you don't actually have to shift out of D. Creeping in a DCT is akin to riding the clutch on 1st gear in a manual. |
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975 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Lokap Polis |
QUOTE(Chinoz @ Feb 20 2019, 06:22 PM) In a manual, you physically shift to neutral when stationary. then there is no different la if change gear to neutral and hard brake on DCT?In modern DCTs, if you're in D, fully stopped and foot on brake, it goes to N by itself so you don't actually have to shift out of D. Creeping in a DCT is akin to riding the clutch on 1st gear in a manual. better just change to neutral gear la, at least we confidently know that both clutch and syncronizer are disengage. |
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Feb 20 2019, 06:30 PM
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63 posts Joined: May 2014 |
deng, i thought u referring to education minister Mazslee..
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Sep 27 2020, 04:09 PM
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Sep 27 2020, 04:18 PM
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36 posts Joined: Mar 2012 |
Cukuurrr my kelysa coure tebu still goin’ stronk😅
Buat per bayar lebey.😂 |
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Aug 9 2021, 06:54 PM
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1,712 posts Joined: Aug 2009 |
->malaysia hot weather
->buy hybrid ->let sun fry the battery ->win brought to you by lulyat |
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6,733 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Zion |
QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Feb 17 2019, 02:24 PM) Baca2 at UK forum. The battery is about £6000. I am more appalled by the sectionalized "test" prices. If you breakdown it seems to be like this scenario,Convert pun 31k MYR. Plus shipping, tax etc 40K should be ada balance still. 120K ini markup margin more than 50% liao. Go to public toilet, 1. You want to shit 2. Person manning the door ask you want to shit or pee (charge money) 3. Suggest you take tissue (charge money) 3. Ask you how long duration (Charge money) 4. Ask you want to use tissue or water to clean(charge money) 5. Ask you if you use water basin? (chare money) 6. Ask if you use the hand dryer, (Charge money) Then end up you could have just shitted at another place and not here. |
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