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post Feb 17 2019, 02:00 PM, updated 7y ago

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Who is going to buy this car if without any warranty?

https://www.facebook.com/346813648700803/po...95355807179903/

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post Feb 17 2019, 02:03 PM

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Can get at spare part shop or not?

Or ebay?
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Yup this the ballpark figure i heard.

If me i just bypass.
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Standard /k reply: if you need to worry about cost of battery, you cannot afford it.
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:05 PM

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See can buy from Ali express or not
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:06 PM

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I rather sell the car and buy a new car with that kinda money.
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Feb 17 2019, 02:00 PM)
Who is going to buy this car if without any warranty?

https://www.facebook.com/346813648700803/po...95355807179903/

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I already replace mine not to long ago.

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post Feb 17 2019, 02:08 PM

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Jus buy power bank to replace it lo
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:11 PM

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bruh wtf? why so exp?? i just checked online battery so cheap..merchisdes yahudi scammer smh

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post Feb 17 2019, 02:22 PM

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They say that driving a hybrid is very economical.

That's only true if the battery don't die out.

I'm glad I drive a normal car.
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:24 PM

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Baca2 at UK forum. The battery is about £6000.

Convert pun 31k MYR. Plus shipping, tax etc 40K should be ada balance still.

120K ini markup margin more than 50% liao.
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:25 PM

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Can by pass and run without the hybrid?
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(alwinnng @ Feb 17 2019, 02:25 PM)
Can by pass and run without the hybrid?
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Not expert la. Baca2 online says got error on dash and cannot start car.
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Feb 17 2019, 02:24 PM)
Baca2 at UK forum. The battery is about £6000.

Convert pun 31k MYR. Plus shipping, tax etc 40K should be ada balance still.

120K ini markup margin more than 50% liao.
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Fly to uk, order battery, ship back.
Still got balance to buy a honda city
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:32 PM

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post Feb 17 2019, 02:35 PM

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maybe thats why americans and australian love high displacement NA cars

6.4L hemi >>>> electric and hybrid

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post Feb 17 2019, 02:38 PM

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No warranty?
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:39 PM

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Wait until you see Tesla Battery Replacement.

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wow.. hybrid punya pasal..

kidney trade pun not enough biggrin.gif
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but owners will still brag

penang -> singkakpork -> penang balik only use a quarter of the tank lol
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:47 PM

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That's why hybrid cannot be cost effective vehicle.
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:50 PM

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Kek...can buy 1 brand new civic ketam
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:50 PM

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120k?
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QUOTE(azbro @ Feb 17 2019, 02:39 PM)
Wait until you see Tesla Battery Replacement.
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How much?
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Feb 17 2019, 02:06 PM)
I rather sell the car and buy a new car with that kinda money.
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To sell a car u need to make sure the car is in perfect condition first before being able to trade it in. If got problem how ler, still need to repair first
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:56 PM

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No warranty? How come never hear other owners complain about the costs to change battery?

Whole Msia only one e300 bluetec?

Besides this car mileage only 56k.

I doubt the owner paid
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:58 PM

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Lol! That battery RM100K?
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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Feb 17 2019, 02:24 PM)
Baca2 at UK forum. The battery is about £6000.

Convert pun 31k MYR. Plus shipping, tax etc 40K should be ada balance still.

120K ini markup margin more than 50% liao.
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Merc Malaysia has one of the most exp service costs. Last time i change brake pad also costs me 2k for front pads only.

Superbly overpriced . Thats hw they maintain their nice showrooms
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post Feb 17 2019, 03:01 PM

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expensive car

hybrid?

wan save money on petrol ?

??????
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post Feb 17 2019, 03:04 PM

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just want to know if the car can still run with thosr kaput fancy battery. i know nowdays marcidi have tons of electronics
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Feb 17 2019, 03:00 PM)
Merc Malaysia has one of the most exp service costs. Last time i change brake pad also costs me 2k for front pads only.

Superbly overpriced . Thats hw they maintain their nice showrooms
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Don’t think so. Got a gut feeling it’s to pay for a qualified technicician from another country to perform the repair and train up the local workforce. And of course offset the cost to the customer.
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And only 57k on the odometer kek
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Feb 17 2019, 03:00 PM)
Merc Malaysia has one of the most exp service costs. Last time i change brake pad also costs me 2k for front pads only.

Superbly overpriced . Thats hw they maintain their nice showrooms
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they once quoted rm80 for the remote key battery biggrin.gif

Got it for Rm9.50 outside
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120k can buy two truck loads of fuel park outside home for the rest of ur life leh
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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Feb 17 2019, 02:24 PM)
Baca2 at UK forum. The battery is about £6000.

Convert pun 31k MYR. Plus shipping, tax etc 40K should be ada balance still.

120K ini markup margin more than 50% liao.
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40k is just the battery
not including other component that attached to it
not including the wages of swap by an expert, u really think any down the tree mechanic can do battery swap? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Feb 17 2019, 03:12 PM)
40k is just the battery
not including other component that attached to it
not including the wages of swap by an expert, u really think any down the tree mechanic can do battery swap? laugh.gif
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They given breakdown of all small costs and only the battery was 120k. Even then there’s no description or part number. If it’s what you said it is then SC is not being transparent to customer and main hantam quote.
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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Feb 17 2019, 03:18 PM)
They given breakdown of all small costs and only the battery was 120k. Even then there’s no description or part number. If it’s what you said it is then SC is not being transparent to customer and main hantam quote.
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about are mostly labour charges on certain diagnostic

but what can u do, u need someone trained to do it else you're the one being burned to death if any short happens laugh.gif

if u go rich rebuild channel, he got show what happen to the teala battery pack if badly installed/not correctly installed

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QUOTE(LawdRetep @ Feb 17 2019, 03:08 PM)
And only 57k on the odometer kek
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But passed the 4th year kot

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Feb 17 2019, 03:21 PM)
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Yeap. So it seems that quotation is fake.

Hw the hell a battery costs 120k is beyond me.

Must be some admin fella just printed it out for fun.
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With that price can buy New Ioniq. 8 years warranty
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With cheap fuel here, hybrids are not economical to own. Yes, u only pump once it twice a month but maintenance alone will be more than owning a non-hybrid model for life.

In Cambodia, car dealers would import dead Prius from US and replace the batteries by swapping the dead cells with good cells from another car. The donor car can be from police impound lot or bank repo lots. As long have under table money, all can settle.
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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Feb 17 2019, 02:24 PM)
Baca2 at UK forum. The battery is about £6000.

Convert pun 31k MYR. Plus shipping, tax etc 40K should be ada balance still.

120K ini markup margin more than 50% liao.
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Feb 17 2019, 02:27 PM)
Fly to uk, order battery, ship back.
Still got balance to buy a honda city
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Go singapore beli also cheaper.
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Feb 17 2019, 03:24 PM)
Yeap. So it seems that quotation is fake.

Hw the hell a battery costs 120k is beyond me.

Must be some admin fella just printed it out for fun.
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RM2.6k just warranty coverage.

If fake confirm MBM will sue kau the person for doing shit that could very much affect their bottom line.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Feb 17 2019, 03:21 PM)
But passed the 4th year kot

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How much for bmw phev series hybrid electric car?
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Feb 17 2019, 03:21 PM)
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e350e how?
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Feb 17 2019, 03:24 PM)
Yeap. So it seems that quotation is fake.

Hw the hell a battery costs 120k is beyond me.

Must be some admin fella just printed it out for fun.
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Fake don’t think so. But if you look at how the quotation is structured, I would say hybrid battery replacement is not a standard service that they would do nor done before.

All other services and parts are neatly broken down with cost except for the hybrid battery which was written as Li On battery. There was no further breakdown for the labor, and accompanying parts. This only make me think that they have not done this before and hence; the estimation.
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Feb 17 2019, 03:46 PM)
e350e how?
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Paul tan said 4 years unlimited mileage warranty for e350e, no extensions
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Feb 17 2019, 03:53 PM)
Paul tan said 4 years unlimited mileage warranty for e350e, no extensions
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dat 1 edy know wan. the extended last time oso offered after main ended, maybe ada chance.


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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Feb 17 2019, 03:38 PM)
How much for bmw phev series hybrid electric car?
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Bmw 5 years unlimited mileage warranty

Their hybrid battery have 6 cells that can be replaced individually if one of them rosak. 1 cell cost around 5-6k
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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Feb 17 2019, 02:22 PM)
They say that driving a hybrid is very economical.

That's only true if the battery don't die out.

I'm glad I drive a normal car.
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They say it saves fuel. Did they it saves money? 2 diferent things bro.
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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Feb 17 2019, 04:41 PM)
They say it saves fuel. Did they it saves money? 2 diferent things bro.
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QUOTE(ravenlost @ Feb 17 2019, 03:24 PM)
With that price can buy New Ioniq. 8 years warranty
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I thought 5 years?
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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Feb 17 2019, 04:41 PM)
They say it saves fuel. Did they it saves money? 2 diferent things bro.
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Save fuel means save money. U use money to buy fuel right?

Topkek
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I wonder how the guy pay the cost?

Say i am able to pay rm 5k installment monthly but one time fok out 120k is huge vommitment neh
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They buy hybrid is because it's cheaper due to tax incentive for ckd hybrid vehicles.
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Battery dia warranty brapa lama?
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Hybrid car is such a scam business.

Buying a 300k car with 100k hybrid battery replacement is pure stupidity
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hahahahahahaha.
honda only 4 to 5.5k.
honda > all
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y would anyone spend that sorta money on hybrids tho? seems like the battery pack cost more than fuel savings. wanna brag with expensive cars, might as well buy a good petrol powered car, so u wont come off looking stingy n poor from driving hybrids. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Feb 17 2019, 02:24 PM)
Baca2 at UK forum. The battery is about £6000.

Convert pun 31k MYR. Plus shipping, tax etc 40K should be ada balance still.

120K ini markup margin more than 50% liao.
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Even if 40k, no sane people wud happily pay for it.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Feb 17 2019, 03:31 PM)
With cheap fuel here, hybrids are not economical to own. Yes, u only pump once it twice a month but maintenance alone will be more than owning a non-hybrid model for life.

In Cambodia, car dealers would import dead Prius from US and replace the batteries by swapping the dead cells with good cells from another car. The donor car can be from police impound lot or bank repo lots. As long have under table money, all can settle.
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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Feb 17 2019, 05:07 PM)
hahahahahahaha.
honda only 4 to 5.5k.
honda > all
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Ya lor.. I think only hybrid ioniq, toyota and honda worth it to get.

Replacement all in below 10k. All this conti really brainless.

100k for battery, topkek.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Feb 17 2019, 03:31 PM)
With cheap fuel here, hybrids are not economical to own. Yes, u only pump once it twice a month but maintenance alone will be more than owning a non-hybrid model for life.

In Cambodia, car dealers would import dead Prius from US and replace the batteries by swapping the dead cells with good cells from another car. The donor car can be from police impound lot or bank repo lots. As long have under table money, all can settle.
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Alot Prius running in Cambodia ???

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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Feb 17 2019, 02:24 PM)
Baca2 at UK forum. The battery is about £6000.

Convert pun 31k MYR. Plus shipping, tax etc 40K should be ada balance still.

120K ini markup margin more than 50% liao.
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Shipping not cheap. Tax not cheap, and markup lgila not cheap. Even small parts at sc, they sc will mark up double, same goes to this battery. Lel

That explain rm120k charge. Crazy indeed.
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Feb 17 2019, 05:01 PM)
Save fuel means save money. U use money to buy fuel right?

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e-part replacement + low resale value > money saved from fuel
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you can get reconditioned cells and install yourself.
as for merc and bmw.
better buy full electric.

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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Feb 17 2019, 05:19 PM)
e-part replacement + low resale value > money saved from fuel
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Fast fast sell liao, no need to replace battery. Lets the 2nd owner taste the medicine. Rofl.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Feb 17 2019, 05:12 PM)
Alot Prius running in Cambodia ???
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Plenty mostly 2nd gen Prius selling below USD 10k. Mostly used as taxis. Grab or PassApp also have.

Dead Prius also sellable. Usually below USD 5K. Even 1st gen also still working. Around USD 3k can get a working one. Mind u, the battery replacement is DIY. Buy salvaged cells and fix it yourself. They used ChrisFix tutorials.

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Coincidently I just pass by a merc e300 waiting to be towed.

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Thought of buying bmw 330e next but with all the horror stories of replacing hybrid battery at exorbitant price, i decided to stick with my trusty honda city hybrid.

8 years hybrid battery warranty with rm5000 replacement after warranty ends.

Honda > all
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Feb 17 2019, 08:27 PM)
Thought of buying bmw 330e next but with all the horror stories of replacing hybrid battery at exorbitant price, i decided to stick with my trusty honda city hybrid.

8 years hybrid battery warranty with rm5000 replacement after warranty ends.

Honda > all
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That is provided you continue servicing the car at authorized SC even after 5 years, where the warranty for other parts is over?
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Feb 17 2019, 08:42 PM)
That is provided you continue servicing the car at authorized SC even after 5 years, where the warranty for other parts is over?
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Yeah i will continue to service at SC after 5 years.

Thought of sticking to the car for at least 10 years or so.
Let see how it goes.

So far the car is 1 year old. No problem so far *touchwood*

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Feb 17 2019, 08:27 PM)
Thought of buying bmw 330e next but with all the horror stories of replacing hybrid battery at exorbitant price, i decided to stick with my trusty honda city hybrid.

8 years hybrid battery warranty with rm5000 replacement after warranty ends.

Honda > all
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Honda Hybrid consider trusty already ???
7speed dual clutch gear box clocked how many KM already ?

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Feb 17 2019, 02:50 PM)
Kek...can buy 1 brand new civic ketam
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Feb 17 2019, 08:27 PM)
Thought of buying bmw 330e next but with all the horror stories of replacing hybrid battery at exorbitant price, i decided to stick with my trusty honda city hybrid.

8 years hybrid battery warranty with rm5000 replacement after warranty ends.

Honda > all
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Mind u, honda is using dry dual clutch. The same dry dsgs which gave ford n vw the headaches back then until they both did away with it.

All the best yeah.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Feb 17 2019, 05:23 PM)
Plenty mostly 2nd gen Prius selling below USD 10k. Mostly used as taxis. Grab or PassApp also have.

Dead Prius also sellable. Usually below USD 5K. Even 1st gen also still working. Around USD 3k can get a working one. Mind u, the battery replacement is DIY. Buy salvaged cells and fix it yourself. They used ChrisFix tutorials.
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US Prius with dead battery selling less than 2k USD

I saw a few videos on the battery company. They took in a lot of spoil battery, then refurbish them by changing bad cells in it. not sure which part but either end or mid of battery cells will fail first.
The rest is still good for a few years.

Btw China has come out with cells replacement as well, not sure how reliable compared to original ones from Japan
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Feb 17 2019, 09:00 PM)
Mind u, honda is using dry dual clutch. The same dry dsgs which gave ford n vw the headaches back then until they both did away with it.

All the best yeah.
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Same goes with Hyundai IonIQ as well.

Soon Proton X50 and X70 CKD will be using dual clutch as well...


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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Feb 17 2019, 09:17 PM)
Same goes with Hyundai IonIQ as well.

Soon Proton X50 and X70 CKD will be using dual clutch as well...
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Geely's dual clutch is wet type. Can feel a bit more confident than dry ones.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Feb 17 2019, 08:54 PM)
Honda Hybrid consider trusty already ???
7speed dual clutch gear box clocked how many KM already ?
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right now nearly 20,000 km.

so far no problem on the DCT. *touchwood*

i ain't be using it to ricer on highways or normal roads.
just cruising slowly at 90-100km/h, taking my time.
hypermile it sometime to get 28-30 km/l FC.

people think if buy H cars, need to drive fast fast.
i'd say they are stupid to do so.
enjoy the ride slowly while enjoying the splendid view of the world.
bawak kaluit nak pi mana?

actually i got another honda BRV using CVT at home; my wife's.
if i took city V spec which is using CVT, got 2 CVTs boring la.
CVT & DCT, can learn & experience the differences.

but of course, i am aware of the cost analysis of using hybrid car in the long run. that's why i am prepared financially for it.
if not, i would not dare to buy entry level hybrid car like honda city hybrid.

although, i dare not to venture into expensive hybrid like the conti cars though. sweat.gif laugh.gif


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Chris Fix already made tutorial for battery replacement. Plus there's community in Malaysia doing the replacement. Can find them in fb

https://www.facebook.com/groups/HVBatRepair/?flyingspaghettimonster=share


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oh boy i just bought bmw 330e hybrid too, with 5 years warranty/service. hope to sell it off after 5 years
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Why are you so surprised? My boss drove his S400 into a tree. It didn't involve battery but I believe the quotation by the insurance claim is around 100K++. Even with that ridiculous figure, his car was stuck in SC for a year because no one in MY knew how to assemble the replacement parts (engine, gearbox, whatever,.. not sure what's going on). Finally after some raging, a team was sent over from Germany to fix it. Not sure who paid for it though. Guess what, he totalled it in less than 6 months and got a brand new one. What a waste.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 17 2019, 10:22 PM)
Why are you so surprised? My boss drove his S400 into a tree. It didn't involve battery but I believe the quotation by the insurance claim is around 100K++. Even with that ridiculous figure, his car was stuck in SC for a year because no one in MY knew how to assemble the replacement parts (engine, gearbox, whatever,.. not sure what's going on). Finally after some raging, a team was sent over from Germany to fix it. Not sure who paid for it though. Guess what, he totalled it in less than 6 months and got a brand new one. What a waste.
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Feb 17 2019, 09:49 PM)
right now nearly 20,000 km.

so far no problem on the DCT. *touchwood*

i ain't be using it to ricer on highways or normal roads.
just cruising slowly at 90-100km/h, taking my time.
hypermile it sometime to get 28-30 km/l FC.

people think if buy H cars, need to drive fast fast.
i'd say they are stupid to do so.
enjoy the ride slowly while enjoying the splendid view of the world.
bawak kaluit nak pi mana?

actually i got another honda BRV using CVT at home; my wife's.
if i took city V spec which is using CVT, got 2 CVTs boring la.
CVT & DCT, can learn & experience the differences.

but of course, i am aware of the cost analysis of using hybrid car in the long run. that's why i am prepared financially for it.
if not, i would not dare to buy entry level hybrid car like honda city hybrid.

although, i dare not to venture into expensive hybrid like the conti cars though.  sweat.gif  laugh.gif
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When traffic jam, no view to see la unless admiring other people's car. Cruising in the highway also difficult coz too many idiots hogging the lanes. Tats why i don't even use my cruise control coz will drive until i wana sleep. My car will even prompt coffee time, lol.. The only worthwhile cruise control is 'adaptive cruise control with lane assist feature'
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Feb 17 2019, 09:49 PM)
right now nearly 20,000 km.

so far no problem on the DCT. *touchwood*

i ain't be using it to ricer on highways or normal roads.
just cruising slowly at 90-100km/h, taking my time.
hypermile it sometime to get 28-30 km/l FC.

people think if buy H cars, need to drive fast fast.
i'd say they are stupid to do so.
enjoy the ride slowly while enjoying the splendid view of the world.
bawak kaluit nak pi mana?

actually i got another honda BRV using CVT at home; my wife's.
if i took city V spec which is using CVT, got 2 CVTs boring la.
CVT & DCT, can learn & experience the differences.

but of course, i am aware of the cost analysis of using hybrid car in the long run. that's why i am prepared financially for it.
if not, i would not dare to buy entry level hybrid car like honda city hybrid.

although, i dare not to venture into expensive hybrid like the conti cars though.  sweat.gif  laugh.gif
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Well, me close to 35k KM.

Some times spirited drive and so far the DCT is still doing well.

Same fuel economy as you.

Jazz hybrid.
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Wtf, might as well get a new civic altis or even a x70 is as comfortable as the stupid merc.
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when japs car hybrid battery in malaysia cost about 8k till 10k....u guys expect merc to have same pricing meh. laugh.gif

even with cost of 10k...malaysian still nags when need to change
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Feb 17 2019, 10:27 PM)
If a car hit a tree i would total lost it as well
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Well, I think most people would expect fast repair since it's a Merc and the approved repair was over 100k. My boss was probably reluctant to total it since I heard he paid the SA some figures just to cut queue to get his car ahead of schedule. He was most frustrated when it was stuck for months. That's why when he encountered the 2nd accident, he decided to totalled it. It's not easy to total lost a 600k car if you don't spent some money. From those pictures that were shown, the 100k repair bill is mind boggling.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 17 2019, 11:31 PM)
Well, I think most people would expect fast repair since it's a Merc and the approved repair was over 100k. My boss was probably reluctant to total it since I heard he paid the SA some figures just to cut queue to get his car ahead of schedule. He was most frustrated when it was stuck for months. That's why when he encountered the 2nd accident, he decided to totalled it. It's not easy to total lost a 600k car if you don't spent some money. From those pictures that were shown, the 100k repair bill is mind boggling.
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all the parts mark up kau kau lo.

simple search using the part number shows the e300 battery cost 9k euro, but why here cost over 100k?
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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ Feb 17 2019, 05:04 PM)
I wonder how the guy pay the cost?

Say i am able to pay rm 5k installment monthly but one time fok out 120k is huge vommitment neh
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all the parts mark up kau kau lo.

simple search using the part number shows the e300 battery cost 9k euro, but why here cost over 100k?
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There's probably other charges incurred like taxes, insurance. Not to mention the SC also tried to be safe, charging extra in case the work was beyond their ability to solve. Who knows for real.
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ill buy another e300 bluetec in that case...

old one standby for spare parts only.. kehkehkeh
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There's probably other charges incurred like taxes, insurance. Not to mention the SC also tried to be safe, charging extra in case the work was beyond their ability to solve. Who knows for real.
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any extra work will still be itemized la. u think lump inside one line meh? u didnt see the paper? so many other lines of small charges already. disconnect high voltage board also show itemized charge.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Feb 17 2019, 03:57 PM)
Bmw 5 years unlimited mileage warranty

Their hybrid battery have 6  cells that can be replaced individually if one of them rosak. 1 cell cost around 5-6k
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Feb 17 2019, 04:27 PM)
Fly to uk, order battery, ship back.
Still got balance to buy a honda city
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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Feb 17 2019, 05:18 PM)
They given breakdown of all small costs and only the battery was 120k. Even then there’s no description or part number. If it’s what you said it is then SC is not being transparent to customer and main hantam quote.
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Feb 17 2019, 05:36 PM)
Go singapore beli also cheaper.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Feb 17 2019, 05:21 PM)
But passed the 4th year kot

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i think not valid if purchased 2nd hand
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Feb 17 2019, 09:18 PM)
Geely's dual clutch is wet type. Can feel a bit more confident than dry ones.
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Yeah i notice this, but Geely do not disclose who is the manufacturer of the gearbox. I suppose it is from in-house technology by Volvo?

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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Feb 17 2019, 09:18 PM)
Geely's dual clutch is wet type. Can feel a bit more confident than dry ones.
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I also notice some of Malaysian driving style on using dry/wet clutch, most them just thought it is the same as conventional 4AT...eg: Put the gear into N while waiting at traffic light and also while car is crawling in jam, always moving the car and stop back in short distance intermittently. Might makan the clutch plate as well
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QUOTE(JohnKekHow @ Feb 18 2019, 12:33 AM)
I also notice some of Malaysian driving style on using dry/wet clutch, most them just thought it is the same as conventional 4AT...eg: Put the gear into N while waiting at traffic light and also while car is crawling in jam, always moving the car and stop back in short distance intermittently. Might makan the clutch plate as well
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Which is correct gear for waiting at traffic lights? P? I usually keep mine at d n press brake. Is that wrong?
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Shifting to n or p wear the clutch plate. So keeping in d is best option at traffic lights? Mine has auto stop.

Btw d for day driving, n for night. I hardly drive at night.
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I’m guessing this particular car always park under the hot sun so the battery kaput faster than usual.

Still Honda hybrid battery replacement is less than 10k, toyota rm8500 (not sure prius or prius c) still reasonable price

bmw and benz, lol two of the highest cost of spare part car brands in europe
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Feb 17 2019, 03:12 PM)
40k is just the battery
not including other component that attached to it
not including the wages of swap by an expert, u really think any down the tree mechanic can do battery swap? laugh.gif
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you thought its rocket science? you thought mechanics are super smart people?
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QUOTE(JohnKekHow @ Feb 18 2019, 12:29 AM)
Yeah i notice this, but Geely do not disclose who is the manufacturer of the gearbox. I suppose it is from in-house technology by Volvo?
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 17 2019, 11:57 PM)
any extra work will still be itemized la. u think lump inside one line meh? u didnt see the paper? so many other lines of small charges already. disconnect high voltage board also show itemized charge.
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That's workmanship. I'm referring to hidden charges. Of course the battery itself probably end up costing half of the quoted price but they have to make sure everything works and they probably even have some sort of warranty on top of it. They could have end up charging you twice the cost, just to be on the safe side.
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QUOTE(JohnKekHow @ Feb 18 2019, 12:33 AM)
I also notice some of Malaysian driving style on using dry/wet clutch, most them just thought it is the same as conventional 4AT...eg: Put the gear into N while waiting at traffic light and also while car is crawling in jam, always moving the car and stop back in short distance intermittently. Might makan the clutch plate as well
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Are you serious?

If it's use clutches, I would put it in N as well. I don't know if you read what you wrote. If it's torque converter, then just D all the way.

My apologies for being rude

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Feb 18 2019, 05:30 AM)
I’m guessing this particular car always park under the hot sun so the battery kaput faster than usual.

Still Honda hybrid battery replacement is less than 10k, toyota rm8500 (not sure prius or prius c) still reasonable price

bmw and benz, lol two of the highest cost of spare part car brands in europe
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10k I can pump fuel for 3 years man.
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Are you serious?

If it's use clutches, I would put it in N as well. I don't know if you read what you wrote. If it's torque converter, then just D all the way.
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With dct, in jam don't creep. And when stop, leave in d and fully engage the brake.
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buy a honda city and the balance can buy fuel for entire car life
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QUOTE(ohman @ Feb 18 2019, 05:45 AM)
you thought its rocket science? you thought mechanics are super smart people?
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mechanics are not super smart ppl, which is why they're not qualified
the car isn't even designed by mechanics and u expect down the tree mechanic to do the swap? laugh.gif
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57K km sudah rosak battery? Fark! Better buy Tesla.
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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Feb 18 2019, 07:36 AM)
With dct, in jam don't creep. And when stop, leave in d and fully engage the brake.
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That is why I would N instead. How many people would diligently fully engage the brakes when stationary especially if you're talking about being in traffic jam in everydays' rush hours? I think the engineers have to learn about driving behaviours rather than using their 1+1=2 mentality when it comes to real world application.

It is such a grey area. If you want to make clutch transmission, make sure it's mandatory to have brake hold installed.
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You guys do know its fake right.

If you look at the SST / where got so cheap.

6% of RM120k is already more than that.
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10k I can pump fuel for 3 years man.
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57K km sudah rosak battery? Fark! Better buy Tesla.
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It's not surprising. Sometimes the way you use it also affect it's durability especially when it comes to battery. That's why I think hybrid buyers should be those heavy users, who will put enough mileage to have healthy recharge cycles.

My company also has a Camry Hybrid in their fleet and already had the battery changed and multiple charging errors.
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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Feb 18 2019, 08:00 AM)
You guys do know its fake right.

If you look at the SST / where got so cheap.

6% of RM120k is already more than that.
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Fake or not dont know.
SST 45.36 is 6% of labour 756. Seems even more legit now.

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QUOTE(JohnKekHow @ Feb 18 2019, 12:33 AM)
I also notice some of Malaysian driving style on using dry/wet clutch, most them just thought it is the same as conventional 4AT...eg: Put the gear into N while waiting at traffic light and also while car is crawling in jam, always moving the car and stop back in short distance intermittently. Might makan the clutch plate as well
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True this.

It’s called CREEPING.
Must not do it if using DCT cars.
Will damage your transmissions in the long run.
Instead, allow for some gap between the front car then only move.
But this might give chance for other cars to cut queue though.

For long traffic light stops, i just shift to P.
For short & medium, i just press on brake pedal.

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assuming monthly petrol usage of RM600 and price per liter remain relatively stable, that 120k can last for 16+ years

lolz
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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Feb 18 2019, 07:36 AM)
With dct, in jam don't creep. And when stop, leave in d and fully engage the brake.
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Yeap. I hardly use p n never n at traffic lights. d allnyhe way with brake. Less wear n tear than n or p.
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Feb 18 2019, 08:36 AM)
True this.

It’s called CREEPING.
Must not do it if using DCT cars.
Will damage your transmissions in the long run.
Instead, allow for some gap between the front car then only move.
But this might give chance for other cars to cut queue though.

For long traffic light stops, i just shift to P.
For short & medium, i just press on brake pedal.
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What is creeping? Alternate between d and n?
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QUOTE(Twins10 @ Feb 18 2019, 03:47 AM)
Which is correct gear for waiting at traffic lights? P?I usually keep mine at d n press brake.  Is that wrong?
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if u use DCT and CVT, engage the gear in D and press Brake while waiting for traffic lights is good enough.

Because the clutch will disengages when u press the Brake steeply. So, no need to put on Neutral. This only apply to clutch based transmission, where the clutch is disengage while brake is applied.


Conventional auto or cvt that is using torque converter will see pressure built up in torque converter and engine mounting while in D and brake, that is y some auto car after a few years, will vibrate a little bit if holding the brake and stay at D

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QUOTE(Aparaa @ Feb 18 2019, 09:01 AM)
"The battery maybe cheap but knowing how to install one is priceless" - BMW Engineer
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europeans use this method called planned obsolescence and monopoly over their products maintenance. (much like apple dont let ppl repair outside)

even if you know how to replace the battery, there might be certain counters or electronic devices which needed separate tool or programming to reset.
without doing the proper way might cause more error messages.

the mech here sure need to ask germany that side to guide them.

the usual method ppl do outside is they go read their manuals which is compulsory then test it on wrecked car lo.....
if lucky can find free on jewtube.

even repairing VW mechatronics module can get on jewtube also.
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Feb 18 2019, 08:36 AM)
True this.

It’s called CREEPING.
Must not do it if using DCT cars.
Will damage your transmissions in the long run.
Instead, allow for some gap between the front car then only move.
But this might give chance for other cars to cut queue though.

For long traffic light stops, i just shift to P.
For short & medium, i just press on brake pedal.
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true.
allow som gap during jam also actually improve the traffic flow as every1 is braking less often.
but, m'sian driving, got a bit gap, sure kena cut in edi.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 17 2019, 10:22 PM)
Why are you so surprised? My boss drove his S400 into a tree. It didn't involve battery but I believe the quotation by the insurance claim is around 100K++. Even with that ridiculous figure, his car was stuck in SC for a year because no one in MY knew how to assemble the replacement parts (engine, gearbox, whatever,.. not sure what's going on). Finally after some raging, a team was sent over from Germany to fix it. Not sure who paid for it though. Guess what, he totalled it in less than 6 months and got a brand new one. What a waste.
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your boss is a road devil kah?
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QUOTE(Twins10 @ Feb 18 2019, 09:09 AM)
What is creeping?  Alternate between d and n?
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post Feb 18 2019, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Feb 18 2019, 08:00 AM)
You guys do know its fake right.

If you look at the SST / where got so cheap.

6% of RM120k is already more than that.
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mana ada fake, service tax charge by Mercedes Malaysia is on labour charge

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wei wei ... hyundie ioniq battery how much???

i better sell of this car if stupidly expensive battery.
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QUOTE(JohnKekHow @ Feb 18 2019, 12:33 AM)
I also notice some of Malaysian driving style on using dry/wet clutch, most them just thought it is the same as conventional 4AT...eg: Put the gear into N while waiting at traffic light and also while car is crawling in jam, always moving the car and stop back in short distance intermittently. Might makan the clutch plate as well
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but for 'manual' clutch tranmission, it is always better to practice using neutral gear when stationary, you dont want clutch to engage much, dunno if dct behave the same.
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QUOTE(Aparaa @ Feb 18 2019, 09:01 AM)
"The battery maybe cheap but knowing how to install one is priceless" - BMW Engineer
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I agree when it comes to rocket or sophisticated technology, but when it comes to car I would just move on.
Would give bad reputation to their cars, no one will touch them since there are other cars that does the same job better and for less.
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Feb 17 2019, 09:11 PM)
US Prius with dead battery selling less than 2k USD

I saw a few videos on the battery company. They took in a lot of spoil battery, then refurbish them by changing bad cells in it. not sure which part but either end or mid of battery cells will fail first.
The rest is still good for a few years.

Btw China has come out with cells replacement as well, not sure how reliable compared to original ones from Japan
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I have checked, those cells sold at RM4800, plus shipping probably 5k or more.
Official battery 7-8k, but with warranty.
For 2-3k difference, that wasn't a great deal after labour and with no warranty, so not a good business to do.
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Feb 20 2019, 04:55 PM)
I have checked, those cells sold at RM4800, plus shipping probably 5k or more.
Official battery 7-8k, but with warranty.
For 2-3k difference, that wasn't a great deal after labour and with no warranty, so not a good business to do.
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8k has 8years warranty from japan
5k has less warranty from china.
definitely take the 8k
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Feb 20 2019, 05:09 PM)
8k has 8years warranty from japan
5k has less warranty from china.
definitely take the 8k
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8k so mean from day 1, hybrid user have to really drive long distance to cover the fuel mileage, in order to compensate the battery price on year 8
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post Feb 20 2019, 06:17 PM

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Civic hybrid battery rm 5500 but don't know has 8 years like original battery or not.
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Not going to sell my honda since its battery same price as 1 bmw cell.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Feb 18 2019, 03:16 PM)
but for 'manual' clutch tranmission, it is always better to practice using neutral gear when stationary, you dont want clutch to engage much, dunno if dct behave the same.
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In a manual, you physically shift to neutral when stationary.

In modern DCTs, if you're in D, fully stopped and foot on brake, it goes to N by itself so you don't actually have to shift out of D.
Creeping in a DCT is akin to riding the clutch on 1st gear in a manual.
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QUOTE(Chinoz @ Feb 20 2019, 06:22 PM)
In a manual, you physically shift to neutral when stationary.

In modern DCTs, if you're in D, fully stopped and foot on brake, it goes to N by itself so you don't actually have to shift out of D.
Creeping in a DCT is akin to riding the clutch on 1st gear in a manual.
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then there is no different la if change gear to neutral and hard brake on DCT?
better just change to neutral gear la, at least we confidently know that both clutch and syncronizer are disengage.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Feb 17 2019, 03:06 PM)
I already replace mine not to long ago.
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You pay that price?
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Cukuurrr my kelysa coure tebu still goin’ stronk😅

Buat per bayar lebey.😂
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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Feb 17 2019, 02:24 PM)
Baca2 at UK forum. The battery is about £6000.

Convert pun 31k MYR. Plus shipping, tax etc 40K should be ada balance still.

120K ini markup margin more than 50% liao.
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I am more appalled by the sectionalized "test" prices. If you breakdown it seems to be like this scenario,

Go to public toilet,

1. You want to shit
2. Person manning the door ask you want to shit or pee (charge money)
3. Suggest you take tissue (charge money)
3. Ask you how long duration (Charge money)
4. Ask you want to use tissue or water to clean(charge money)
5. Ask you if you use water basin? (chare money)
6. Ask if you use the hand dryer, (Charge money)

Then end up you could have just shitted at another place and not here. laugh.gif

 

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