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post Oct 4 2019, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Oct 4 2019, 06:03 AM)
boss , I'm owner of 2.2d , together in club with 12 others all diesel.

zero issues
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wait for 150k km.
one cx5 prefacelift 2.5 get a gearbox change due to gb problem. is this due to Mazda malaysia opted for seal for life gb oil, mean no need to change gb oil?
rm23k for gb replacement parts, not including service charge. luckily he get mazda japan warranty after few email.

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Oct 4 2019, 06:03 AM)
boss , I'm owner of 2.2d , together in club with 12 others all diesel.

zero issues
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Wait for higher mileage to come, in Taiwan Mazda pull out all diesel models as they encounter big issue there that the car buyers staged protest like those of VW owners in Malaysia. Protest kaw kaw in front of Mazda HQ in Taipei.
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post Oct 4 2019, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Oct 4 2019, 06:03 AM)
boss , I'm owner of 2.2d , together in club with 12 others all diesel.

zero issues
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Yes, still new. Those that are driving in mostly start stop city urban could likely face issue earlier.

QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 4 2019, 09:39 AM)
wait for 150k km.
one cx5 prefacelift 2.5 get a gearbox change due to gb problem. is this due to Mazda malaysia opted for seal for life gb oil, mean no need to change gb oil?
rm23k for gb replacement parts, not including service charge. luckily he get mazda japan warranty after few email.

cx5 fb club
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All skyactiv gearbox sama je....

Pandai pandai, latest at year 5, at least request drain and fill transmission fluid. Less than RM200 job. No such thing as lifetime, unless the lifetime is 5 year max, within those lease period of 3-4 years in western markets.

On the side note, a lot of more recent models opt for "sealed lifetime" style, not limited to mazda. So again, pandai pandai....

QUOTE(4WD_er @ Oct 4 2019, 10:16 AM)
Wait for higher mileage to come, in Taiwan Mazda pull out all diesel models as they encounter big issue there that the car buyers staged protest like those of VW owners in Malaysia.  Protest kaw kaw in front of Mazda HQ in Taipei.
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I read that before issue last year, hopefully the same one you're referring to. The details seemed to relate to engine oil dilution issue, causing sub optimal lubrication and ultimately failing some engines.

Diesel engines with DPF never meant for dense urban environment with lots of start stops, where the DPF can't reach optimal operating temperature. Optimal at long distance cruising. If no DPF, no need worry.

I'm not advocating to remove DPF, because it really works trapping alot of the soot/crap from diesel exhaust fumes. But really, understand how the system works and evaluate against own driving situation. For dense urban driving, please understand the risks, if not get regular petrol.

(ah well, in the near future will have PPF, petrol particulate filters, some new models of european marque already has them in their home markets....)

Hence, again, i stress, those with diesel dpf engines, always check your engine oil dipstick monthly. If reached top most max line, get your engine oil replaced. This is a must basic that i don't know whether bermaz educate their skyactiv diesel customer or not. Don't wait till got dashboard light or error message baru pergi check.

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Oct 4 2019, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Oct 4 2019, 10:40 AM)
Yes, still new. Those that are driving in mostly start stop city urban could likely face issue earlier.
All skyactiv gearbox sama je....

Pandai pandai, latest at year 5, at least request drain and fill transmission fluid. Less than RM200 job. No such thing as lifetime, unless the lifetime is 5 year max, within those lease period of 3-4 years in western markets.

On the side note, a lot of more recent models opt for "sealed lifetime" style, not limited to mazda. So again, pandai pandai....
I read that before issue last year, hopefully the same one you're referring to. The details seemed to relate to engine oil dilution issue, causing sub optimal lubrication and ultimately failing some engines.

Diesel engines with DPF never meant for dense urban environment with lots of start stops, where the DPF can't reach optimal operating temperature. Optimal at long distance cruising. If no DPF, no need worry.

I'm not advocating to remove DPF, because it really works trapping alot of the soot/crap from diesel exhaust fumes. But really, understand how the system works and evaluate against own driving situation. For dense urban driving, please understand the risks, if not get regular petrol.

(ah well, in the near future will have PPF, petrol particulate filters, some new models of european marque already has them in their home markets....)

Hence, again, i stress, those with diesel dpf engines, always check your engine oil dipstick monthly. If reached top most max line, get your engine oil replaced. This is a must basic that i don't know whether bermaz educate their skyactiv diesel customer or not. Don't wait till got dashboard light or error message baru pergi check.
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Agreed that no gb can survive for seal for live method. Unless the European do design their car to run max until 150k km only? Then good to go. Here 150k km are at 5th to 7th year life of car, with mostly yet to settle for loan.

Btw mazda bermaz prefer to sell the fuel cleaner than any permanent fix. Resolve the GDI carbon deposit by ask customer to pay for fuel additive bottles where technically we know it doesn't work that way.

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post Oct 4 2019, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 4 2019, 11:52 AM)
Btw mazda bermaz prefer to sell the fuel cleaner than any permanent fix. Resolve the GDI carbon deposit by ask customer to pay for fuel additive bottles where technically we know it doesn't work that way.
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The only method for GDI carbon deposit is to physically clean it out, either brush or walnut shell blasting.

Pretty much all car make with GDI don't offer a physical solution other than you go outside workshop to do. Only VW, quite "pioneering" to offer walnut blasting as an official optional maintenance item in malaysia. Quite worth it for the price, their engine damn leceh to disassemble to reach the intake ports.

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Oct 4 2019, 06:03 AM)
boss , I'm owner of 2.2d , together in club with 12 others all diesel.

zero issues
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Do you pile on mileage ?
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Oct 4 2019, 12:06 PM)
The only method for GDI carbon deposit is to physically clean it out, either brush or walnut shell blasting.

Pretty much all car make with GDI don't offer a physical solution other than you go outside workshop to do. Only VW, quite "pioneering" to offer walnut blasting as an official optional maintenance item in malaysia. Quite worth it for the price, their engine damn leceh to disassemble to reach the intake ports.
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If only all manufacturers copy the toyota dual port & direct injection type in engine, we consumer no need to spend extra money for this cleaning matters.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 4 2019, 02:56 PM)
If only all manufacturers copy the toyota dual port & direct injection type in engine, we consumer no need to spend extra money for this cleaning matters.
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somewhat true, but hor, additional cost for at least another set of injectors, fuel pump, fuel pressure sensor and fuel rails. Some more the added complexity of the tune of an additional set of injection cycle, so more $$ demanded from buyers.

malaysians kedekut la.... tongue.gif
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post Oct 4 2019, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Oct 4 2019, 08:41 AM)
How long have you owned the diesel? What's the mileage now?

Heard that it's not as fuel economical if compared to the Beemer's diesel. True?
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my record 960km full tank no light yet , average 5.9l/100km

not sure about conti

on road since March 2017

QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 4 2019, 09:39 AM)
wait for 150k km.
one cx5 prefacelift 2.5 get a gearbox change due to gb problem. is this due to Mazda malaysia opted for seal for life gb oil, mean no need to change gb oil?
rm23k for gb replacement parts, not including service charge. luckily he get mazda japan warranty after few email.

cx5 fb club
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gearbox nothing to do with type.of engine, Mazda bulletin say don't change oil over and over , many ignore gearbox fucked claim mazda
QUOTE(4WD_er @ Oct 4 2019, 10:16 AM)
Wait for higher mileage to come, in Taiwan Mazda pull out all diesel models as they encounter big issue there that the car buyers staged protest like those of VW owners in Malaysia.  Protest kaw kaw in front of Mazda HQ in Taipei.
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heard this story , never had same issue here at all not even one reported , Taiwan bodo dunno how drive car
QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Oct 4 2019, 10:40 AM)
Yes, still new. Those that are driving in mostly start stop city urban could likely face issue earlier.
All skyactiv gearbox sama je....

Pandai pandai, latest at year 5, at least request drain and fill transmission fluid. Less than RM200 job. No such thing as lifetime, unless the lifetime is 5 year max, within those lease period of 3-4 years in western markets.

On the side note, a lot of more recent models opt for "sealed lifetime" style, not limited to mazda. So again, pandai pandai....
I read that before issue last year, hopefully the same one you're referring to. The details seemed to relate to engine oil dilution issue, causing sub optimal lubrication and ultimately failing some engines.

Diesel engines with DPF never meant for dense urban environment with lots of start stops, where the DPF can't reach optimal operating temperature. Optimal at long distance cruising. If no DPF, no need worry.

I'm not advocating to remove DPF, because it really works trapping alot of the soot/crap from diesel exhaust fumes. But really, understand how the system works and evaluate against own driving situation. For dense urban driving, please understand the risks, if not get regular petrol.

(ah well, in the near future will have PPF, petrol particulate filters, some new models of european marque already has them in their home markets....)

Hence, again, i stress, those with diesel dpf engines, always check your engine oil dipstick monthly. If reached top most max line, get your engine oil replaced. This is a must basic that i don't know whether bermaz educate their skyactiv diesel customer or not. Don't wait till got dashboard light or error message baru pergi check.
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mileage 37,000km only , city stop start supposedly guaranteed kill dpf , nothing also , own self scare sendiri

QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Oct 4 2019, 02:03 PM)
Do you pile on mileage ?
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no , 37,000 until today only , city putt around

don't listen my father brother sister uncle second wife daughter stories , hear from owner

This post has been edited by rcracer: Oct 4 2019, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Oct 4 2019, 05:54 PM)

mileage 37,000km only , city stop start supposedly guaranteed kill dpf , nothing also , own self scare sendiri
no , 37,000 until today only , city putt around

don't listen my father brother sister uncle second wife daughter stories , hear from owner
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ok, still nice car to own anyway thumbsup.gif
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Whats the official price on cx8?
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post Oct 7 2019, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Oct 6 2019, 12:59 PM)

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Quite good last row space, my wife would be bugging me liao tongue.gif
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Pity no 3rd-row a/c vents although the middle row a/c buttons are more atas than CX-5.
To those who want to maximise the seating space, can only get the 7-seater in the lowest specs
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 4 2019, 11:52 AM)
Agreed that no gb can survive for seal for live method. Unless the European do design their car to run max until 150k km only? Then good to go. Here 150k km are at 5th to 7th year life of car, with mostly yet to settle for loan.

Btw mazda bermaz prefer to sell the fuel cleaner than any permanent fix. Resolve the GDI carbon deposit by ask customer to pay for fuel additive bottles where technically we know it doesn't work that way.
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Ford powershift dry clutch was originally intended as seal type....no need to change until reports of gearbox issues started to emerge..then they issued s tsb for oil change requirement


Oh well....time will tell
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https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovati...b5ccc875a935a79

Mazda Australia will recall more than 35,000 versions of the Mazda 3, 6 and CX-5 over several issues that could cause engine failure in some circumstances.

All affected models were sold between 2012 and 2018 and are equipped with a diesel engine.


The problems stem from a build-up of carbon deposits and premature wear of certain engine components.

There are wide-ranging symptoms that can affect the vehicle’s performance which can increase the risk of an accident and injury to the driver and other road users.

Some of the issues include a gradual drop in power, multiple dashboard warning lights, increased braking distance, a stalled engine that fails to restart and smoke coming from the engine bay.


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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Oct 11 2019, 12:19 PM)
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovati...b5ccc875a935a79

Mazda Australia will recall more than 35,000 versions of the Mazda 3, 6 and CX-5 over several issues that could cause engine failure in some circumstances.

All affected models were sold between 2012 and 2018 and are equipped with a diesel engine.
The problems stem from a build-up of carbon deposits and premature wear of certain engine components.

There are wide-ranging symptoms that can affect the vehicle’s performance which can increase the risk of an accident and injury to the driver and other road users.

Some of the issues include a gradual drop in power, multiple dashboard warning lights, increased braking distance, a stalled engine that fails to restart and smoke coming from the engine bay.
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The key is they don't have euro 5 diesel prior to November 1, 2016.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Oct 11 2019, 12:19 PM)
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovati...b5ccc875a935a79

Mazda Australia will recall more than 35,000 versions of the Mazda 3, 6 and CX-5 over several issues that could cause engine failure in some circumstances.

All affected models were sold between 2012 and 2018 and are equipped with a diesel engine.
The problems stem from a build-up of carbon deposits and premature wear of certain engine components.

There are wide-ranging symptoms that can affect the vehicle’s performance which can increase the risk of an accident and injury to the driver and other road users.

Some of the issues include a gradual drop in power, multiple dashboard warning lights, increased braking distance, a stalled engine that fails to restart and smoke coming from the engine bay.
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Nothing weird for GDI engine which will suffer with carbon deposit problem after long mileage.

Just send workshop for engine cleaning etc.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Oct 11 2019, 12:19 PM)
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovati...b5ccc875a935a79

Mazda Australia will recall more than 35,000 versions of the Mazda 3, 6 and CX-5 over several issues that could cause engine failure in some circumstances.

All affected models were sold between 2012 and 2018 and are equipped with a diesel engine.
The problems stem from a build-up of carbon deposits and premature wear of certain engine components.

There are wide-ranging symptoms that can affect the vehicle’s performance which can increase the risk of an accident and injury to the driver and other road users.

Some of the issues include a gradual drop in power, multiple dashboard warning lights, increased braking distance, a stalled engine that fails to restart and smoke coming from the engine bay.
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oh shit, mazda diesel for sale , PM for details

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