I got my Selenite with RTX 2060.

Not gonna talk about hardware spec performance, since it's mostly the same across any device, the only variable being thermal performance

1) Audio
This has got to be the most disappointing part of the laptop. The speakers are so underwhelming. Sounds weak with meh dynamic range. It gets slightly better when you use the pre-installed Sound Blaster Connect. Also, not sure if this is my laptop's problem, but the speaker has a very noticeable popping sound every now and then. I can't pinpoint exactly when it happens, but it does and it's there.


2) Thermal Performance
Out of the box, it was poor at first. I constantly hit the 95 °C PROCHOT (thermal throttle) on the CPU (not even playing at highest setting).

But after undervolting the CPU Core and CPU Cache using Throttlestop, I managed to significantly reduce the temperature and now it rarely goes above 78 °C. Now, it's great! The heat also builds up at the upper part of the laptop body, so when you're using it, you barely feel the heat

They probably didn't do the stress test + undervolting enough I guess? Right now, I'm at -122.1 mV offset on both CPU Core and CPU Cache, and System Agent and iGPU at -45.9 mV offset. Probably could go lower, haven't really gone to the point of it crashing.

On light usage, it's around 42-48 °C during the day and 36-44 °C at night.

But this laptop can easily handle any game you throw at it. No problem. It's just a matter of what FPS you're willing to tolerate.


3) Keyboard
Kinda ok but not particularly great. They keys kind of, uhh wobbly?. And the click isn't as satisfying as I thought it would be. RGB looks awesome though.


4) Touchpad
I personally I think it's great, accurate and feels just nice. So far the best laptop touchpad I've used (that I own).


5) Battery
You'd be lucky to get 4 hours on this, even on the most conservative power saving setting + undervolting + light web browsing. Make sure to change to globally use Integrated graphics in Nvidia control panel, otherwise it's just gonna drive everything with the discrete graphic.


6) Screen
Great for me. 144 Hz and bright. Colour looks good and vibrant. Haven't tested colour accuracy though. The thin bezel is especially nice.


7) Price worthiness
This is what fucked me up the most lol. I thought Illegear has the best price/spec ratio!

https://shopee.com.my/MSI-17.3-GE75-9SF-668...9432.6111695931

Much better spec (RTX 2070) at lower price! MSI too!

Overall, I'd rate the Selenite RTX 2060 7/10

This post has been edited by amir.asyraf: Feb 1 2020, 10:43 PM

Woah nice thanks for replying!

Thanks, will try and report back.

I see... Thanks I'll definitely be repasting. And yeah for the first time with this laptop, just yesterday I had a relatively long and intense gaming session (3+ hours) and the CPU was constantly hitting its limit at 95 °C, some core even hitting 99 °C.

Man -185 mV offset is really good, unfortunately for me mine is already unstable at -145 mV, with the OS being completely frozen when running Battlefield V and I had to hard reboot. Also, I thought you're supposed to undervolt both CPU Core and CPU Cache equally?

Does flashing custom BIOS void warranty?

I've no idea. Where to check?

Is it really boosted? Also, do you use MSI Afterburner with yours to boost the GPU or undervolt? If so, would be great if you could share your profile here. I suck at trying to tune it.

Nice. I haven't done any benchmarking or stress testing on mine, don't really care. As long I can game and open Visual Studio without the laptop going into seizure.

eh it's the same with Selenite which has per-key RGB, the wave animation sucks.

I hope Illegear could release the source code for the command center. I have a some experience in firmware/systems programming, I think I could take a crack at it.

This post has been edited by amir.asyraf: Feb 28 2020, 02:44 PM

Yeah it's crap, here's what the wave effect looks like: https://gfycat.com/distinctmiserableafricanjacana

But having the ability to assign each keys their own individual colour is awesome, I just set mine randomly, although I avoid 2 colours next to each other:



Too bad the UI/UX for assigning colours to keys sucks though. You can't drag colours to assign multiple keys quickly, and also there's no profiles.

This post has been edited by amir.asyraf: Feb 28 2020, 03:20 PM

Hey that would be awesome if you could get it. I'll host it on GitHub, maybe we'll get some more contributors too.

It does seem nicer, but still noticeable. It could be much better especially considering it's per-key illumination.

Actually to think about it I've never really seen any keyboard with proper wave animation.

Guys, what's the equivalent/generic name for the Illegear Selenite from other manufacturers? e.g. Tongfang, XMG, Eluktronick etc

Thanks!

I repasted with CM Mastergel Maker.

Honestly it's just worse compared to TG Kryonaut. Before, playing Anthem my CPU would hover around 80-85C max. Now, it's pushing to 90C constantly. And some core even up to 97C. Even during idle I noticed it's higher on average. Now I regret

No worries. Already ordered one from Shopee.

Good to experiment I guess.

Prince J or anyone here

How many external monitors does the laptop support at once? Is it 3?

awesome thanks!

Max only goes up to 86W, I thought RTX 2060 GPU boost can go up to 115W? Or am I missing something here



This post has been edited by amir.asyraf: May 4 2020, 12:56 PM

Benchmark on Unigine Heaven and Valley

What do you mean by depends on gameplay? Does it detect the game? Or is it the Valley and Heaven benchmarks aren't GPU intensive enough?

My Selenite (i7-9750H RTX 2060) has been completely freezing up lately. Usually happens when watching videos. Doesn't matter on Youtube or local files (VLC, MPC, PotPlayer etc). It's really random and has been happening noticeably often now. Sometimes I'm able to watch a movie from start to end, sometimes it would freeze 15 minutes in.

By freeze I mean completely and fully unresponsive and unrecoverable, locked up. Completely unresponsive to any keys or mouse actions. Even if I leave it for an hour it would still be frozen. The only thing I could is force shutdown by holding the power button for 5 seconds. It's really frustrating. I've already had several data loss because of this.

Anyone have any idea? I've never had it locked up while playing games. Right now I'm thinking it's either the RAM or SSD, or maybe even the secondary SSHD.

Well after several weeks of testing with all kinds of games and benchmarks, I've never been able to go anywhere near 115 W, according to HWiNFO anyway. Max I've gotten was only 81.695 W.

Benchmarks I've run:
Firestrike (Max score 6751)
Time Spy (Max score 15670)
Heaven
Valley

Games I've played:
Battlefield V (Aimed for 60+ FPS)
GTA V (Maxed out)
Fortnite (Maxed out)
Anthem (Maxed out (I think))
Just Cause 4 (Maxed out)
Forza Horizon 4 (Maxed out)
Paladins (Maxed out)
Apex (Aimed for 60+ FPS)

Software:
TensorFlow

At least with the benchmarks and TensorFlow (which are mostly GPU-only intensive), the GPU temperature is only hovering at around 69-75 °C, so temperature isn't the problem and it could push further.

Of course, all of the above was on Turbo mode.

This post has been edited by amir.asyraf: Jun 28 2020, 12:21 AM

BIOS Version/Date: American Megatrends Inc. N.1.54, 24/6/2019
SMBIOS Version: 3.2
Embedded Controller Version: 2.09

Is that it?

Yeah that's the problem. I have several serious problems with the laptop already and really want to bring it in, but this is my main/daily driver. I can't go a day without it.

Unless of course you have an loaner unit that I can work with while you fix my laptop.

This post has been edited by amir.asyraf: Jun 30 2020, 09:07 AM

Haven't checked but I once brought mine to the center and they found my laptop serial number doesn't match the one in the order/account or something