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This post has been edited by Fenix98: Dec 13 2019, 06:25 PM

CVT weak

boxer very very very sensitive to oil and coolant levels , just check constantly and top up

one miss , head gasket blown easily

is character of Subaru boxer engine

I’ve seen a few EJ20 with cooling problems.... engine is very picky, wrong coolant and little bit of dirt/rust will overheat when boost comes in. the FA20F also ? Since this is a new engine on this platform

nothing is new on this engine, it has been the same design ever since invention until now , just small tweaks here and there but nothing changed

http://mywikimotors.com/subaru-fa20/


Subaru FA20 engine specs
Manufacturer Gunma Oizumi Plant
Also called Subaru FA20
Production 2012-present
Cylinder block alloy Aluminum
Configuration Flat-4
Valvetrain DOHC
4 valves per cylinder
Piston stroke, mm (inch) 86 (3.39)
Cylinder bore, mm (inch) 86 (3.39)
Compression ratio 10.6
12.5
Displacement 1998 cc (121.9 cu in)
Power output 147 kW (200 HP) at 7,000 rpm
186 kW (253 HP) at 5,600 rpm
200 kW (272 HP) at 5,600 rpm
221 kW (300 HP) at 5,600 rpm
Torque output 205 Nm (151 lb·ft) at 6,400-6,600 rpm
350 Nm (258 lb·ft) at 2,000-4,800 rpm
350 Nm (258 lb·ft) at 2,000-5,200 rpm
400 Nm (295 lb·ft) at 2,000-4,800 rpm
Redline 7,400 (N/A)
6,700 (Turbo)
HP per liter 100.1
126.6
136.1
150.1
Fuel type Gasoline
Weight, kg (lbs) –
Fuel consumption, L/100 km (mpg)
-City
-Highway
-Combined Subaru BRZ
10.4 (22)
6.4 (37)
7.8 (30)
Turbocharger Naturally aspirated
Garrett MGT2259S (FA20DIT)
Oil consumption , L/1000 km
(qt. per miles) up to 1.0
(1 qt. per 600 miles)
Recommended engine oil 0W-20
5W-20
5W-30 (FA20DIT)
5W-40 (FA20DIT)
Engine oil capacity, L (qt.) 6.3 (6.7)
5.1 (5.4)- FA20DIT
Oil change interval, km (miles) 5,000-10,000
(3,000-6,000)
Normal engine operating temperature, °C (F) –
Engine lifespan, km (miles)
-Official information
-Real
–
200,000+ (120,000)
Tuning, HP
-Max HP
-No life span loss
500+
–
The engine is installed in Subaru BRZ
Subaru Forester
Subaru Legacy
Subaru WRX
Subaru FA20 engine reliability, problems and repair
At the beginning of 2012 the joint Subaru and Toyota model was put into production. You know it as Subaru BRZ, Toyota 86 or Scion FR-S. New sports naturally aspirated flat-4 FA20 engine was developed specially for this car. It was built on the basis of FB20 cylinder block, modified into square bore/stroke ratio. Diameter of its cylinders and piston stroke is 86 mm. Unlike usual FB20, this motor uses new pistons, new crankshaft, and the compression ratio was increased to 12.5.
FA20 engines use new heads with direct injection system of Toyota D4S, and also variable valve timing system AVCS is used on intake and exhaust camshafts. Also 4-2-1 headers are installed on this motor.
Such naturally aspirated engine was called FA20D or Toyota 4U-GSE and it showed 200 horsepower at 7,000 rpm, and torque 205 Nm at 6,400-6,600 rpm.
Except FA20D, there is also turbocharged version which is called FA20F/FA20E, better known as FA20DIT. This motor replaced EJ207 and EJ205.
FA20DIT engine uses non-forged pistons with the decreased compression ratio 10.6, its heads flow better, combustion chambers were improved in these heads and new camshafts are applied.
On the intake part there is the plastic intake manifold with TGV valves, and new turbo manifold is also used.
FA20 DIT engine uses twin scroll Garrett MGT2259S turbocharger. The maximum boost pressure is 15.9 psi (1.1 bar), and power is 272 HP at 5,600 rpm, torque 350 Nm at 2,000-5,200 rpm. Also, the over boost mode is available, at this mode boost pressure can increase to 22 psi (1.5 bar) for several seconds.
FA20 firing order is 1-3-2-4.



Subaru FA20 engine problems and malfunctions

1. FA20 rough idle. The problem is caused by ECU software. You need the new modified software for your ECU.
2. FA20 stalls. The problem with cam gear, which leads to the loss of pressure of engine oil.

For this engine it is necessary to use the best quality gasoline, and also to use original high-quality engine oil and change it twice more often than it is recommended. It will allow to keep reliability and will increase an engine resource.

Subaru FA20 engine tuning
FA20 Turbo. Supercharger

You are very lucky if you have turbocharged FA20 DIT, it will be easy for you to increase its power. For this purpose you need to buy only 3-inch aftermarket cat-back exhaust system, cold air intake, boost controller and adjust ECU. For cars with an automatic transmission it is desirable to have transmission cooler. It will give you 300-320 WHP. It will be excellent if you install aftermarket radiator and a frontal intercooler. It will be enough for active driving, but for receiving 400+ horsepower, you will need turbo kit.

Owners of BRZ and 86 are not so lucky as they need a turbo kit at once. It is possible to install cold air intake, straight exhaust system, to adjust ECU and to receive additionally 20-25 HP. That is all you need, you shouldn’t try to build high rev naturally aspirated, it is expensive and Subaru BRZ turbo will be quicker anyway.
The best choice for your Toyota 86 is supercharger kit, you should install it on FA20 stock internals. Such kits have max boost pressure 9-10 psi (0.6-0.7 bar), and it is enough to receive 280-300 horsepower. It is simple and optimal variant to receive great power.

To receive 350+ horsepower, you need the new fuel pump, fuel injectors, pulley and water/methanol injection. Don’t forget about transmission cooler and aftermarket radiator.
Instead of supercharger kit, you can install turbo kit on the basis of Garrett GTX3076R. Such kit is possible to install on stock internals and to receive 400 ++ WHP, and even up to 500 WHP (sport fuel).
FA20 stock internals keep more than 500 WHP, and if you use sports fuel and adjust ECU correctly, than over 600 horsepower.


Any members care to share ur experience ? Same engine and transmission as 2015 + WRX

Basically it’s the same engine and transmission as the 2015+ WRX with CVT transmission.... anyone chime in on their experience ?

For a people mover, MPV always wins.

But it sounds like you want some performance to go with it...

it's not an impreza wrx..so soft suspension is expected. what's your expectation actually? the car is not that cheap, u might go for a new suv at that price.

Yup MPV best choice but too big for my wife, she doesn’t have confidence with car of this size. Station wagon would fit the bill nicely and this Levorg has some performance too boot. Yes it’s not a wrx, we need a big boot and rear leg room. But the Levorg GT has a nice compromise slow speed . But anything above 140 the rear suspension rolls too much even on first corner leaning... it’s too SOFT a compromise for a 300hp engine.... but it’s livable with. Most
SUV around same price boring le....

The CVT is changing it's ratio on the fly according to your throttle inputs, it isn't like those common fixed multi geared transmission....a quirk you have to get used to or you eventually figure out the patterns.

A good idea you browse through dedicated subaru forums to get to know more.

What was the asking price of the levorg you want to buy?

Didn’t occur to me On the CVT, as I’m only used to stick shifter or fixed geared auto.... I assumed something was wrong with the transmission.... didnt know CVT felt that way.that Levorg was like brand new.... sold dy 4 sure... even my wife Non car trained eye said it’s like new.... They were asking 155k....

There is not such thing as "like new" for reconditioned cars, they are used cars that gone through a very good cleaning and surface job, costs few thousands, but it gets the job done.

But for engine internals, you have no idea as i remembered one forummer bought a recond car of his dream but the dealer did a real good cleaning job to hide some leaky seal issues.

The mileage shown on the ODO is 99.999% fake. There are quite a number of listing in mudah.my, since this is really a "cold car" even among subaru, the car won't have much takers. I think the 10 year old toyota caldina gt can sell faster than a levorg.

For sure 10 year old caldina can sell faster coz cheaper now.

Regarding re-con cars never believe anything the dealer said. If can get a trusted mechanic and go check it out.

Autoexpert from Australia even mention that this Levorg is actually a WRX Wagon & compare it with Merc C-class estate.
It is a bargain and get more better performance compare to those german estate/wagons at a lower pricing point.
The sad truth is Malaysian always think Wagon/Estate cars are coffin cars and get cold to it..

https://autoexpert.com.au/posts/subaru-levorg-review

If you know what you're going into with reconditioned cars, then go for it. Would suggest you test drive a few more times to get a good feel of the car before plonking in the money. Do consider also the local 1.6T variant, who knows, although it may not be fast, it is actually more refined/balanced.

Hard to find someone that likes wagon, I actually had the levorg in my sights when it was announced, was eagerly hoping that can CKD to local markets. But in the end, got put off by the CBU pricing. Just don't understand why motorimage want to bring in the low spec version instead of the high spec 2.0T version since already this high price.....would be a good advertising stunt saying that it is the most affordable car with 300hp despite the pricing.

Do lookout other sellers :
https://www.mudah.my/Malaysia/levorg-for-sa...evorg&so=1&st=s

Mmm... car is seriously cold 🥶 damn thing
I saw still sitting at the used car lot

Then you bring her back to warm her up lor

When you buy a ‘special’ type car, you’ll expect it to be a cold door vehicle. Only enthusiast would relate to that particular make and model.



P/s : I drive a 2013 BM5/9 legacy.

get a nissan ad resort with sr20...





https://www.mudah.my/1996+Nissan+AD+Resort+...20-74494424.htm

Definitely more realible then this scooby and wouldnt brake the bank

This post has been edited by gld998: Apr 26 2019, 09:39 PM

Kind of a dated car.

If it is a wagon then it must be a Volvo or else the Mazda6 is good too.

Lolz 😂 this car is too old.... it’s for my wife to daily, errands, sending kids shopping etc.... sr20 ? Hahaha that be a car for someone who can handle wrenching it at side of the road.

This post has been edited by Fenix98: Apr 27 2019, 02:14 PM

Hows the reliability ? Engine rubber gaskets still leaking oil ?
Are you on the FA20 or EJ engine ? Care to share ur experience bro....