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bani_prime
post Feb 6 2019, 04:15 PM

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1. When hassan ali want to limit alcohol sale, dap against it
2. When appeal to allow hijab on mas stewardess for female staff who volunteer want to wear hijab, still dap against it
3. When pas want to made hudud, karpal singth say langkah mayat ku dulu
4. When teressa kok want to enter mosque, dont respect the requirement, insteqd call her colleague to allow her enter without the requirement
5. Dap constitution also is a threat to pas. Pas want islam as a soveriegn religi9n, dap want to treat all religion equal
6. Their follower action has somehow paint dap more to anti islam, exsmple like some comment from fb, etc
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post Feb 6 2019, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 6 2019, 04:21 PM)
... meanwhile songlap 1MDB, FGV, Felda, Tabung Haji, MARA, DLL is ok!
PAS da PUAS! 90m da puas!

Tok Guru Nik Aziz dulu menjadi agama sebagai panduan pemerintahan,
Pemimpin hari ini mempergunakan agama bagi mengekalkan pemerintahan.
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Jgn ubah topiklah.....

Ts ask, i answer

Afterall....all that scandal saga is only political game n lies.

After so many u turn which can be intepreted as lies....even though proven mnay time a liar, stilk want to believr the allegation of that scandal?
If sudah tipu, means the whole thing alleged has fall its integrity. The integrity of the allegation is already in doubt when has proven of many lies, evidenced y many uturn

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post Feb 6 2019, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(matramlee @ Feb 6 2019, 04:24 PM)
betul tu....

bila kita Melayu tak suka PAS, depa cakap kita ni BARUA.....
depa cakap kita anjing DAP....
adoi... kenapa jahat sangat mulut???
aku still orang ISLAM...
dan aku berpandangan bahawa fahaman/ajaran di kalangan PAS tu ada yang TAK BETUL....
sebab tu aku TAK SOKONG PAS....

aku hanya sokong FAHAMAN ISLAM yang mengajak perpaduan...
sebab tu aku suka Nik Aziz dan aku suka Nik Omar..
aku cuma tak suka orang macam Haji Hadi...

aku tak suka Haji Hadi bukan bermaksud aku ni orang jahat....

adoii...

please la...mentality....tolong lah.....
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Everyone want unity, but dap version unity is different. They prefer being republic, n treat all religion as equal n promote seculariwm. They will introduce it slowly...slowly...pretend to be ur friend, while they are upholdimg their principle slowly2 n diam2. Meanwhile, pakatan itself has proven many lies by many u turn like AEC, sst, free ptpthn...n many more. U shoukd ask urself....kalau ini sudah pun tipun can u trust their unity version? Scholar in the past, when they want to pick up a hadith, they will examined the periwwyat character. If the periwayat character also lies, the hadith will be rejected.....n why is it after contantly many lies that was protrayed through many u turn, why should we trust all the allegation n their unity

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post Feb 6 2019, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(matramlee @ Feb 6 2019, 04:42 PM)
hari ini sahaja, ramai orang Melayu dah buat aku makin benci Melayu...

aku tak tahu kenapa...

padahal topik yang aku buka hanyalah TEGURAN sikit je untuk berubah..

tapi depa emosional lain macam...

seriously aku cakap, aku makin benci dengan Melayu.....

kalau berterusan begini, aku rela DAP jadi perdana menteri...

dan aku akan ajak orang Melayu lain untuk join DAP...

jangan salahkan aku..

tapi salahkan diri sendiri sbb membuatkan Melayu lain benci Melayu...
kenapa Melayu tak boleh respect Melayu lain??

kita kena terima bahawa dalam dunia ni semua orang ada cara pemikiran tersendiri...

so respect lah orang lain....kena bertoleransi dengan orang lain..

jangan paksa orang lain untuk ikut cara satu tu sahaja,, tak boleh macam tu... tak akan ada perdamaian kalau berterusan macam tu..
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Lihat pd kontekslah bro. Masing2 boleh ikut pemikiran masing2n still need to be guided by religion too. If god forbid making nonmuslim as a leader to follow, do u still want to ikut ur pemikiran too?
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post Feb 6 2019, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(matramlee @ Feb 6 2019, 04:50 PM)
antara ISLAM sesat dgn non-muslim, better pilih non-muslim..

sbb ISLAM sesat ni boleh mengelirukan orang lain...
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What do u mean islam sesat?
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post Feb 6 2019, 06:39 PM

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Something i domt understand....if lets say pas decide want to limit alcohol sale or promote hijab in stewardess n dap agaijst it. So why pas need to be together with pakatan when they know their agenda cant be carried together with presence of dap. This is democracy, should not we respect pas wish to say bye bye to dap? Afterall....even if pas with dap what good will be, if dap keep against pas. Common sense right?

All thr while i see.....dap is angry with pas for one reason only, because pas is stealing malaynvoters. Thats all
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post Feb 6 2019, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(matramlee @ Feb 6 2019, 06:51 PM)
we must realize that we live in MULTIRACIAL and MULTI-RELIGION country...

respect is the most important thing if we want to achieve PEACE in this country....

not only one-side....but both side must respect each other....
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If dap choose not to respect pas wish, how do u expect a similar respect from pas.

I agreed that we should find middle path or win win situation, but where has dap go somfar

Lets take example of request of pas to allow hijab among the stewardess....n what was the answer? Its like ditolak mentah2. Theres no even thing like.,,,boleh,,,,tapi.... Or even trying to negotiate, or findings way of win win solution. Absolutely none
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post Feb 6 2019, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(OCMAX @ Feb 6 2019, 07:15 PM)
One thing from all your replies are damn wrong. Dap not against passed or Islam. They objected those that could be caused chain effects to others religion culture. It is not against off any party or religion because that changed is against the constitution.

You can’t label someone a anti-Islam just because they has different opinions. That’s very arrogant isn’t?
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How examplethings like ruu can affected the nonmuslim?

Even theres some element of disagreement , as civirilized community we can find middle path solution, a solution of win win among 2 groups...but have we tryimg to negotiate such deal? As far as i concern, whatever pas proposal has been rejected blindly. Theres even no room for discussion or negotiation. Almost none. It is just yes and no answer, nothing of like "yes but...". Its like black n white answer, not grey side

Let me test on u....a sterwardest voluntereed herself to wear hijab. Will u respect her decisiom or not?
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post Feb 6 2019, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Feb 6 2019, 07:17 PM)
You need to understand the constitution and penal code. Is sale of alcohol banned in the constitution and penal code? And hijab issue, shouldn't they approach MAS? After all, it's related to MAS company attire?
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No one suggest to alcohol ban....the wish was like restrict alcohol sale, dont made it widely available, even oversea domt just sell alcohol in all shop..only selected shop
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post Feb 6 2019, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(OCMAX @ Feb 6 2019, 08:01 PM)
just crossed check your own statement you’ll find the dispute contents how it will affects others.
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Ok skip that.

Answer me the last question...a female sterwardess muslimah want to wear hijab during her work, will u respect?
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post Feb 6 2019, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 6 2019, 08:11 PM)
During your grand parents time no problem
Now problem?
Cloths makes you more holy? hmm.gif
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Why do u want to argue?...this is question of respecting other values. Will u respect?
Just as how u want other people to resprct number 4 haram, even though it made no sense at all

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post Feb 6 2019, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(OCMAX @ Feb 6 2019, 08:12 PM)
My own point of view. I will feel uneasy if I can’t see her entire face if she serve me. It is not because of religion. It is because of safety.
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In the vrry first place...have u trying to understand entirely waht she want? Hijab is broad term to cover one part body. It can means cover face...n i t can means just wewring tudung n cover all body except face n hand. So since u guys speak of multireligion n multiracial, will u respect her wish to wear hijab. With face n hand revealed
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post Feb 6 2019, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 6 2019, 08:17 PM)
Attire more critical than corruption?
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See...u are tryimg to derail from discussion. How hypocrisy of u calling for multirelgiin n mukti racial, but u cant respect other values. If she want to wear hijab, thats her choice. Why must it a problem with u?
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post Feb 6 2019, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Feb 6 2019, 08:17 PM)
Now this is freaking crazy. Since when did the chinese demanded ppl to respect no 4 as haram????? I've not seen or heard any news about demo or viral etc when it comes to number 4. Come on man, can you be reasonable here? doh.gif
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I mean is as chinese im sure they dont like to be questioned why hate number 4. Its about respecting one value. If chinese dont like, ok fine we respect it. So why cant they do for the muslim? Keep talking about multiracialn multirelgiion, but we cant respect other people value
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post Feb 6 2019, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(OCMAX @ Feb 6 2019, 08:23 PM)
Errrr. You’re talking about air stewardess isn’t? she’ll serve not only one race isn’t. Just like I posted earlier. You can’t force someone to accept what you want. Mutual respect is both way.

Your statement is “you want these to imposed. NO question ask and objection or else whoever object are consider anti-Islam”

The stewardess has to serve other countries citizen also right? So will you respect them? This come back to both side mutual respect.
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This is double standard itself. By saying she cant wear hijab, its similarly saying u are imposing her to not wear hijab when she want to wear hijab
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post Feb 6 2019, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(OCMAX @ Feb 6 2019, 08:28 PM)
What has shown is you doesn’t care about safety. You try to understand why. It is not because of religious.
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By ur answer, it seems U dont understand what hijab is even after explaining that it does not neccesary cover face. So how it affect security?So its kind of shame of u tring to explain something u dont understand
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post Feb 6 2019, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(matramlee @ Feb 6 2019, 08:27 PM)
yes..i agree...

chinese hate number 4,, but they doesn't ask other people to follow them.... it means they still can respect others..

but if PAS hate number 8 (for example), i'm sure PAS will ask all people to follow them... number 8 cannot be used in this country...haha...
it means PAS cannot respect others... why???
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Pas pun ada silapnya...which im not pas supporter pun

What im trying to say here....the muslim respect chinese hate number 4, where do u see muslim question why chinese hate number 4.. almost none, n since not so many people questioned it, so u rarely see chinese get angry theor value being questioned because muslim respect it.

But the problem u see in the discussion, even a sterwardess want to wear hijab voluntarily, itupun tak nak hormat. They keep saying issue secuirtylah, isu bla bla,,,some bring about corruption. That s the whole issue. The issue here is simply,u nak hormat tak kemahuan wanita muslimah tu. So u can see, they dont want to respect it
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QUOTE(ken_hidaibuki @ Feb 7 2019, 12:15 AM)
Wahai tuan bani prime sedarkah anda semasa pramugari itu memilih kerjanya dia sudah tahu bahawa dia perlu mengingkari larangan Allah? Pilihan di tangan individu, kalau pramugari itu hendak bertudung semasa berkerja, adakah tiada kerja lain yang membenarkan dia untuk bertudung semasa waktu kerjanya? Persoalanya dimana rasional nya dia memilih kerja sebagai pramugari?
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ada yg senior sudah insaflah
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post Feb 7 2019, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(ken_hidaibuki @ Feb 7 2019, 12:27 AM)
Jadi imannya bergantung pada disiplin syarikat? Berbalik kepada respon saya di atas jika dia ( pramugari) itu hendak memakai tudung semasa berkerja tidakkah dia boleh memilih kerja lain. Tidakkah bumi Allah ini luas dan Allah menjanjikan ganjaran kepada sesiapa yang berusaha? Ingin saya selitkan sedikit soalan kepada tuan bani prime. Salah satu kehendak pekerjaan pramugari/gara untuk menghidangkan arak kepada penumpang. Adakah pemakaian tudung lebih berat hukumnya dari menghidangkan arak kepada penumpang?
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lain org lain iman bro. bergantung pd iman org tu, sanggup ke dia melepaskan pekerjaan esp yg senior, dan menpunyai komitment perbelanjaan tinggi...atau dengan pendidikan rendah...setakat mana dia yakin kalau dah berhenti, boleh dapat kerja balik dgn mudah. Jgn sedap menghukum, sekurang2nya kita bantulah ringankan pekerjaan mereka. dah kita pun digalakkan bertolong tolong dlm hal kebaikan,,,,kalau kau boleh tawarkan diorang pekerjaan yg tetap dgn gaji yg mencukupi....lagi bagus

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post Feb 12 2019, 07:22 AM

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Feb 12 2019, 12:43 AM)
only no. 3 has actual proof.

no. 4, IINM Teresa kok did not enter actual mosque building but enter the compound (dalam pagar).

no. 6 is not directly DAP fault.

meanwhile all the other reasons are just wrong perception and practically outright lies.

sadly most malays rather believe lies than finding out for themselves.
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number 6 nit entirely their fault but their silence means they agree on them. example when someone mocking sultan, wheres dap to take a stand. n yet... when a malay guy show middle fingee to calsberg girl, dap quickly stand forward

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