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lil_flank
post May 16 2019, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(jie103 @ May 4 2019, 11:48 PM)
Went mazda today
New Mazda 3 is coming into Msia this July with 1.5cc NA 130k++ 2.0cc NA 150k
But both varients are using current skyactive G engine as skyactive X requires higher Ron than Ron97
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Last time i read about Skyactiv X, it was designed for lower ron fuel.

https://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/moto...ives-powertrain
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post May 16 2019, 08:54 AM

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jie103
post May 16 2019, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(lil_flank @ May 16 2019, 08:52 AM)
Last time i read about Skyactiv X, it was designed for lower ron fuel.

https://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/moto...ives-powertrain
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Just wait n see only...new M3 is launching this July
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post May 17 2019, 08:36 AM

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Not too sure about all this fuel talk, RON95 vs RON97. I was told that some cars especially cars with Turbo engine work better with RON97, hence RON97 is recommended for cars with these engines. It is not that one cannot use RON95 with the cars though I'm not sure on the after-effects if using RON95 with cars which are claimed to "require" RON97. One of such car is the Ford Focus 1.5 Ecoboost.

Also, from my own experience, not all RON95 fuel are similar despite some who thought otherwise. My Proton Preve Turbo shows knocking sound from the engine during acceleration with Petronas RON95. The engine knocking sound is like the sound you hear from very old cars >15 years. However, with Caltex RON95, there is no knocking sound from the engine. I have verified this with long-term experience when using Petronas RON95 for a considerable period (1 year +/-) and then switching to Caltex RON95(for 2 years) and then back to Petronas RON95. The knocking sound is not existent with Caltex RON95 but came back instantly wonce I pumped Petronas RON95.

Only with specific cars. I did not experience any issue with my other cars when switching between Petronas and Caltex RON95.

It is interesting if the new Mazda 3 Skyactive-X would require higher grade fuel to work and is the main reason they may not be brought in to Malaysia just because RON95 or RON97 isn't suitable for the X engine.
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post May 17 2019, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(lil_flank @ May 16 2019, 08:52 AM)
Last time i read about Skyactiv X, it was designed for lower ron fuel.

https://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/moto...ives-powertrain
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The above article indicates that Bermaz is not giving us the real reason for not bringing in the Skyactiv-X engine. The engine is designed for Ron 91 minimum and there is nothing mentioned about other fuel quality requirement. Bermaz's real reason may be there is no viable price slot for the Mazda 3 Skyactiv-X after pricing the 2.0L model at RM150K.

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post May 17 2019, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ May 17 2019, 09:00 AM)
The above article indicates that Bermaz is not giving us the real reason for not bringing in the Skyactiv-X engine. The engine is designed for Ron 91 minimum and there is nothing mentioned about other fuel quality requirement. Bermaz's real reason may be there is no viable price slot for the Mazda 3 Skyactiv-X after pricing the 2.0L model at RM150K.
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I even read in another article (forgot which article) last time that Skyactiv X works even better at lower ron fuel compare to higher ron fuel according to Mazda. Thats why i find the reason Bermaz is giving is contradicting.

Update:
I found the article
http://www.carbuyer.com.sg/5-things-you-sh...out-skyactiv-x/

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kaivanwong
post May 31 2019, 04:57 AM

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Mazda sales person informed me that the Mazda 3 Skyactiv X will be launched around end of the year with price ranging from RM160K - RM170K.
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post May 31 2019, 04:58 AM

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Mazda sales person informed me that the Mazda 3 Skyactiv X will be launched around end of the year with price ranging from RM160K - RM170K.
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QUOTE(kaivanwong @ May 31 2019, 04:57 AM)
Mazda sales person informed me that the Mazda 3 Skyactiv X will be launched around end of the year with price ranging from RM160K - RM170K.
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Seems like it's aiming to go into Lexus or Infiniti category with that kind of pricing although not reaching to the Mercedes or BMW levels yet.
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post May 31 2019, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(kaivanwong @ May 31 2019, 04:58 AM)
Mazda sales person informed me that the Mazda 3 Skyactiv X will be launched around end of the year with price ranging from RM160K - RM170K.
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Not in the short term, all current industry news states only normal skyactiv g engine will be introduced here.

https://www.carlist.my/news/bermaz-ceases-p...-mazda-3/56137/

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QUOTE(Dwango @ May 31 2019, 05:49 PM)
Seems like it's aiming to go into Lexus or Infiniti category with that kind of pricing although not reaching to the Mercedes or BMW levels yet.
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Not up to that level, a good reference price point will be vw.

It will take some time for the market to digest, but if their new generation products lives up to the hype, the market will accept the elevated price point some day. But just not here in malaysia. Thanks to the cx5 that props the mazda brand here, if not it will silently go away. Even korean cars that are more competitive also struggle so hard, imagine how much harder for mazda, an even smaller player....

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