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Sony-Ericsson ~Listen Your Way~ Sony Ericsson W910i, HSDPA, Walkman 3.0, SensMe(tm)

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marquis
post Oct 23 2007, 06:44 AM

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Woot! Finally got the phone. One word to describe it: Sweet wub.gif

Thin, slides oh-so-easily (unlike the w850), feature packed. No for those wanting a cam phone though. No flash, no af. Kinda used to my 903sh so half press and don't realise that the photo's actually taken. Haha tongue.gif

But it can feel like a girl's phone coz after being so used to the bulk and mass of the 903, the w910 is a really light! And small! biggrin.gif Battery seems to be pretty good too. It's down to 4% (lesser now) and I can play music while bt-ing songs from my 903 - and it's lasting for more than 15 minutes now.
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post Oct 24 2007, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Oct 23 2007, 08:28 PM)
How much do you bought it?
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Paid 20 quids for it on a 12 month contract. But phone is unlocked so I can use it when I get back to Malaysia biggrin.gif

QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Oct 23 2007, 08:38 PM)
yo congratz biggrin.gif

did you try out the SenseMe? wow it looks cool in the review i read!

and the 2.4" screen is the killerz too!  thumbup.gif
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SenseMe as in the Playlist SenseMe or the motion thingy? If the former no but the latter yes. Kinda nifty. I just love it when the phone detects when I flip the phone to the horizontal or vertical. Cool!

QUOTE(StratOS @ Oct 23 2007, 08:51 PM)
w910 got sumthing like a Wii technology right..? how to use that? review..~!!
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Yes it does. But not for all applications. Will update that soon. Lemme go eat first. Haven't eaten yet leh...Hehe tongue.gif

No other users from the forum yet?
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post Oct 24 2007, 03:57 PM

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K review as promised. Not so much of a review though. It's 747am here and I'm still somewhat groggy. Writing this while I'm making tuna sandwich tongue.gif

First Impression

When I first held the phone at carphonewarehouse (it's some shop selling phones here in UK), I was amazed - all that technology packed into something so light! Seeing as to how used I am to my 903sh, I find the weight of the w910 to be next to nothing. And it's really slim. Heck, it's so slim it can fit into the coin pocket of my jeans! Screen is wide with very good viewing angle. Buttons are placed where users would intuitively put their fingers to and the slider pushes very easily - unlike the w850 which could be hell when trying to open. The slide opens to reveal the keypad - nothing to shout about there. Some users might find trouble texting with it - more about that later. Overall, it gives a good first impression - the w910i is one hell of a sleek mobile.

Behold, the slider keypad

Since it's a slider (duh), the keypad is divided to two parts - the numeric keypad which is revealed by sliding the screen up and the navigational buttons one the top part of the phone (accessible even when the phone is closed). The latter is an ease to use and as mentioned, is placed where users would intuitively bring their fingers to to push the buttons. Being a Sharp user (with the occasional Nokia or two thrown in), I find transition between the phones to be seamless in terms of getting used to the keypad functions and the like. However, long time SE users would find a button missing - the back key. Instead of a dedicated back key, SE now uses the right soft key as the "back" key whilst in a menu. I assume this is to make the keypad arrangement more "eye friendly". The buttons are easy to press and responds immediately to presses. Now to the numeric keypad. Though the buttons aren't as small as the w580. I still find the keypad rather hard to use when texting (one could get used to this over time - perhaps, or perhaps not). This is especially so for those with big hands (like yours truly). The feedback of the keypad is not very good as well - I'd much rather my 903's keypad over this (though it's a flip, it has very good keypad response). Perhaps once I've had the phone longer I will adapt to it better. For now, texting on the phone isn't the most joyous of things to do. The backlight for the both the keypads is very well done - no leaking of light and it is evenly lit (no concentration of light on the center row). Illumination of the keypad allows for texting even in pitch darkness. Though one gripe about that is I can't seem to find the setting to control how long it stays illuminated.

Big display!

One thing I really appreciate about my 903 is the screen size. I hate phones with puny lcd sizes. Hurts my eyes to squint. And theres' just no viewing pleasure - not good since you'd be looking at your phone a lot. Thankfully, the w910 has a big ass screen that is capable of showing pictures in both potrait and landscape - just tilt the phone horizontal to get a landscape view. I haven't uploaded anything to my phone yet, so can't really say much - yet. What I can say is that you won't squint your eyes when reading text!

Camera on a walkman

For all the features, the 2MP with no AF and no flash is so yesterday. For those wanting a more balanced phone, the w810 would fit the bill better. True no 3G, but how often would the average joe use it anyway? That aside, the camera seems to be a bit of a let down - partially because I'm more used to my 903sh (admittedly, that's a tad bit unfair tongue.gif) and both the w800/w810 and k800/k810. I haven't toyed with the camera all that much yet. Nothing spectacular to take and haven't the mood (too used to AF - Feels weird to shoot without focusing). I'll update once I've played more with the camera.

Walkman on steroids

The reason for the W denomination. Being the first slider/3G walkman (do correct me if I'm wrong), the w910 packs quite a punch in the walkman category. Being a walkman it can play virtually any files you throw at it (for the audiophiles - I haven't tried any lossless/flac files). The interface is beautiful (reminds me of the psp) and definitely beats those in the older versions (YMMV). Choosing tracks to play is made fun and intuitive by the SensMe feature where you pick your mood and she (yes my phone's a she) picks what to play. Unfortunately, it's not all that intuitive. You actually have to transfer songs and tag a mood to it via the pc suite. Seeing as to how lazy I am, I have not even installed the pc suite let on transfer "mood" songs to my phone. laugh.gif

The other cool feature making the w910 sho sweet is the Shake function. You could move the phone around to control 3 aspects of music playback - go to the next track, the previous track and shuffle. However, you still have to hold a button so it kinda makes holding it awkward - not hard to do but if SE had made it user changeable, it would have been almost perfect. As it is, hold down the walkman button and "shake" it to the left to skip a track backward, "shake" right for the next track and "shake it like a polaroid picture" to shuffle your playlist. Silly really, but fun biggrin.gif

Oh and you can also put your screen to a horizontal to view your walkman in the landscape mode.

Video and picture viewing

Using the motion sensitive thingy, you could watch videos and look at pictures on landscape or potrait depending on how you hold the phone. Hold it upright, it will be in potrait and horizontal it would play in landscape. Nifty though sometimes it doesn't really detect it. I'd have to "shake" it a bit to get it to re-orient the screen. Watching videos is great fun in landscape. Gives you the "movie" feel. Haven't uploaded anything of note into the phone. Just a 3gp or two of silly clips. Makes watching it more fun. And you can watch in a group that way. Put it on a table or something smile.gif Or you could snuggle up next to your other half and hug her/him while watching a video clip of silly things that you do together in each others arms, each holding one side of the phone (awwww SE could so use that for an ad tongue.gif)

I sense motion!

You can actually use the motion sensitivity of the phone for game play (not all). There's this marble game (i've played it on the ngage before) and it's fun to use tilt the phone to get the marble going. Though it can get frustrating sometimes laugh.gif Haven't downloaded other games using this feature yet, so I can't comment much.

Also of note is the wallpaper and icons in the menu (depending on theme used). It detects motion and the wallpaper has things moving around that would follow the motion of the phone. Tilt it left and the stuff goes left etc etc. Also when you're in the menu, the icons would move around (not by much) when you move your phone around. Nice little detail SE has put smile.gif


Since I'm tired and have to get ready for class, I'll write sumore later (if there's demand). Hehe. Suffice to say the phone is fun to play with. I almost got the N95 but since at least 3 of my classmates has it, I opted for this phone instead smile.gif
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post Oct 24 2007, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(baby2000 @ Oct 24 2007, 04:41 PM)
i c hk forum many w910 user give negative feedback , is really bad w910 blink.gif
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It's a matter of opinion really. I would not be caught dead with a samsung but a lot would differ.

I'm using the phone and the only real gripe I have is the camera and the numeric keypad.

What negative comments did they have? Was it just a general bad or did they specify what it is they do not like?

QUOTE(StratOS @ Oct 24 2007, 07:16 PM)
u bought ur phone from carphonewarehouse..? laugh.gif nice store.. got cheap price ar.. brows.gif
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Yeah. Got a so-so deal lor. Getting desperate for a phone line here and decided to just buy the phone. Besides, I fell in love with it the first time I saw it laugh.gif

It was either this or the cocoon...But decided to go with this instead. Wanted a slider tongue.gif
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post Oct 25 2007, 11:31 PM

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Pana jie, be preparred for great dissapointment in the camera department. If you're used to more camera oriented phones, the camera for this phone just down right sucks. For the casual user it's well above average, but for someone who's used to better, they could've come up with better.

But heck, this phone was meant for music listening not picture taking! biggrin.gif
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post Oct 26 2007, 04:28 PM

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Update on battery life:

Considering I used the walkman/bluetooth/picture taking extensively the other day, I still had roughly half a bar left (about 48%) before charging yesterday. Pretty neat! No way in hell this would happen on the 903. Power chugger that phone! tongue.gif

Update on keypad:

You need to have either really thin fingers or short nails if you've bigger fingers. Hahaha. I found it rather diff to type before I cut my nails but now everything's fine biggrin.gif

Point of note:

The phone can handle multi tasking VERY well. You can bluetooth, listen to song while playing a game. Or talk on the phone and play a game (although not recommended unless it's a really boring conversation).

Update on SQ:

I tried listening to songs via the HPM 70...The quality is definitely above average, but I guess I was expecting for something more. I also idiotically compared it to my iPod so I guess that's not fair. Will try the EP630 on both and update again. Oh perhaps my AKG as well. Didn't bring my SR60, Portapro or KSC 75 so can't test that.

Others:

The build quality is pretty damn good. Phone feels rock solid. Not like those cheapo samsung plasticky feel. (sorry not a fan of samsung).

Someone hurry up and buy it! I need a w910 buddy! laugh.gif

EDIT:

if someone figures out how to connect to the internet (using the pc's connection) via PAN do let me know. I'm currently stumped sweat.gif

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post Oct 26 2007, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Oct 26 2007, 09:23 PM)
not even see the shadow of a W910i yet, how to buy laugh.gif
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Eh not released yet? Oh AP sets are in but Mdland haven't yet is it?

Sigh. I need someoen to help me figure out how to work out this PAN shit! cry.gif
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post Oct 27 2007, 06:06 AM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Oct 26 2007, 09:30 PM)
did you try to google around+

alternatively you may ask at esato.com, a dedicated forum for sony ericsson fans
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Tried there as well. Phone seems to be too new to have someone do it sweat.gif

I guess I'll just have to wait lor.
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post Oct 28 2007, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Oct 28 2007, 12:27 AM)
the price for W910i ORI is tagged at  HK$3,880

http://www.sonystyle.com.hk/ss/product/mob...if_SE_w910i_red

@marquis

your set comes with 1GB M2?
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Yup smile.gif

Although it seems that some in the US got a 2GB M2. Mostly here in UK they're giving a 1GB card.

The standard set here has:

Phone
Battery
Charger
HPM 70
Data Cable
Software
M2 Reader
1GB M2
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post Oct 29 2007, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Oct 28 2007, 11:59 AM)
Package Content

    * 1 Sony Ericsson W910i Phone
    * 1 BST-39 Standard Battery
    * 1 CST-75 Standard Charger
    * 1 2GB M2 with USB Adapter
    * 1 Handfree
    * 1 W910i PC Suite
    * 1 User Manual

Price is RM1652 for Black colour with 2gb memory card.
RM 1627 for hearty red colour.. with 2gb m2 also..
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Wah. Why is it UK is the only region supplying a 1GB card. Pathetic! sweat.gif


QUOTE(ZeroWrath @ Oct 28 2007, 09:25 PM)
Awesome, someone already has the phone!

marquis, tried out the SensMe playlist thing yet? I saw your post, said need to tag moods to songs individually... If so, lol, knew it was too good to be true for the phone to choose songs to suit your mood.

Although it might still be great if one is hardworking. Any idea if it's possible to tag more than 1 mood to a song?
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Nope haven't tried it out yet. Kinda have other things to do (like procrastinate tongue.gif) Haha. Kidding. Will try it out after I've done my assessed tutorial and stuff. I haven't even transfered my phonebook from my 903 yet. laugh.gif

Will update when I finally get down to it.

On a different note, the battery life seems to be pretty good. Can last 2 days with heavy music playing. Average/low bitrate though. 192 with some 128 thrown in on a 50% brightness (not that much of a difference IMO).

Contrary to what most people say about the "shake" function, it's really not all that difficult to use. Once you get the hang of it you're good to go. Just that it's a gimmick really. More useful when you wanna forward without holding the volume key. laugh.gif
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post Nov 7 2007, 05:28 AM

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QUOTE(khun_khun @ Nov 2 2007, 02:51 AM)
btw, i saw at saome website that stated w910 got limited edition, is it true?

if yes, anyone know is it available in malaysia?

n how much?
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I think the LE you're talking about is the Havana Gold one. It's gold in color. Yuck. Me no likey


QUOTE(neeko @ Nov 2 2007, 11:44 PM)
RM1600 unsure.gif
hurray! I can connect to Intetnet using Bluetooth PAN! rclxm9.gif
Technical Specification Step:
Device got to have: w910i(support PAN), bluetooth dongle,BlueSoleil 1.6 or above,& pc/laptop connected to intetnet

PC
1.Open BlueSoleil->My Services->Properties->Personal Area Networking->Access LAN Network->choose your network card
w910i
2.connect w910i to pc using bluetooth(in hp, open bluetooth connection(under setting-connectivity),& search for device, then pair it)
PC
3.click on your w910i icon in bluesoleil,click on Bluetooth Personal Area Network(Yes on temporarily stop)
w910i
4.on bluetooth->My devices->click on your PC name you just paired(for my case is MIAOMI)
5.connect it
when connected, you will see a PC icon on top left on your w910i
and now when you look at bluesoleil, your w910i icon should be having a line with your "PC"
w910i
6.go to intetnet settings(under setting-connectivity)->connect using->add->PS data->give it a name(I use Bluetooth)
(I tested few time, when connect your PC in step 4,no APN should be ok)
7.now test on your browser rclxm9.gif
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Hi there smile.gif

Do I HAVE to use Bluesoleil? I've tried with my other laptop running on XP without the bluesoleil thingy but it still won't work. Hoping I don't have to install it laugh.gif

Did you modify anything else when you created the new Internet Account thingy (as in the PS data) or did you just use the stock ready ones?

QUOTE(Frostlord @ Nov 5 2007, 08:36 PM)
wat is HSDPA? still considering between this n w580

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Have you handles the w580? I think it's kinda flimsy. That's my personal take though. Don't like the phone laugh.gif

QUOTE(LittleMin @ Nov 6 2007, 05:47 PM)
u mean use MSN mobile in ur w910i?? smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif
i think i wont use it alwayz~~ laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

how is da sound quality of tis fon?? smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif
speaker n earfon...
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The speaker sucks. Like big time. I can barf when listening to it. For emergency purposes can lah but if you wanna use it for entertainment, you might as well use something else. It's really bad. The HPM70 doesn't have much to shout about as well. Even when I plugged in my AKGs it didn't sound very nice. Just gotta wait for my KSC 75 and SR60s to come to make a comparison. Could try with the portapro but it's on "permanent loan" with my friend laugh.gif

In a whole, I'd use this as a back up music player and a "oh shit my iPod ran out of juice" but I'll never actually use it as my primary music player.
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post Nov 8 2007, 04:15 AM

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QUOTE(LittleMin @ Nov 7 2007, 12:28 PM)
erm~~wat is model of ori earfon tat SE giv wif w910i??
does it perform well??


Added on November 7, 2007, 12:38 pm
hahaha..nvm...im chinese tooo...i can understand wat u mean...

actually i dun quite mind wif da quality of da speaker~n i understand since tis is a slim fon so da speaker wont b loud nor clear like usual fons...
wat i mind is da sound performance when plugging in earfon...
since tis is walkman fon....
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Stock is HPM70. Doesn't really perform well IMO. Bass is too bloated and Treble is too shril. Mids are ok but overall is just a so-so. But do bare in mind that I'm comparing this do a dedicated player, so it's a tad bit unfair laugh.gif

For normal listening, I would say the phone does a pretty good job smile.gif

QUOTE(neeko @ Nov 7 2007, 07:24 PM)
I guest you have to install BlueSoleil sweat.gif
bc I deleted every thing,internet connect set it to empty,media connect set it to usb,I still can use PlayNow & browser sweat.gif
(no change miss with hotlink gprs, bc I haven success setup gprs from my w610i, w910i haven touch hotlink setting)
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Er..Can I use bluesoleil if I don't use a dongle? My laptop using internal bt wor. How? Kinda lost sweat.gif

So wait, can list out all your settings? I'm getting a bit frustrated here. Cannot work! cry.gif

QUOTE(LittleMin @ Nov 7 2007, 08:41 PM)
i no nid best music~i jz nid a decent player tat can let me hear mp3 when i walk 2 school~at library~bla bla bla... 
tats y i interested in walkman fon... smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif
summore if wan buy an ipod or mp3 player~den it wil b another device ady...quite troublesome...
if can all in 1 is best larr...
but i noe now dun hv so perfect fon~
btw~i oso got a DC... 
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Erm, if you want an all in one, I suggest you get th w810 lor. The cam is better, has mp3 functions and is a pretty good phone biggrin.gif

The w910 SQ is nothing to shout about, it's probably slightly above average (IMO, YMMV). The camera sucks big time. If you're a casual shooter (during the daytime at night the phone is a horror!) than ok lor. If not you might wanna rethink buying the w910.

But if form factor and slimness is your thing, then this definitely is the phone to go for. I might ditch this and go for the N81 instead laugh.gif

QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Nov 8 2007, 12:09 AM)
nice packaging from W910i

user posted image

atleast it is not the normal type paper based packaging rolleyes.gif

- pic taken from mobile01.com
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I think that's the Havana one. Coz the detail is in brown/gold not orange. My black one is in orange. Unless of course my eyes rae lying to me tongue.gif
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post Nov 8 2007, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Nov 8 2007, 09:20 AM)
looks like cooper brown to me

marquis, did you see the pen-drive size thingy besides the phone? that is the M2 card reader bundled together with the phone

i wonder did you get that accessory too?
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Yeah. My phone's box looks exactly the same bar the color. laugh.gif

It even has a string thingy to attach to the the phone and it's detachable as well. So it becomes like an accessory. Pretty nifty but rather bulky.
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post Nov 10 2007, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(LittleMin @ Nov 8 2007, 02:07 PM)
now i finding a slim pretty phone~tats y i interested in w910i... laugh.gif
so all in one or whatever r not so important as long as the phone is pretty... laugh.gif
if i wan all in one i would go for the old old w800i or w900i rather den w810i~coz w800i n w900i camera got AF summore...rite??  biggrin.gif
w900i record video is in mp4 format summore~damn clear.... rclxms.gif
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Er...the w810 has AF as well biggrin.gif And thw W900 a bit bulky right?

If want pretty phone then get the viewty lor. Seen it here...Fuhhhhh. Damn kao nice. A girl would be perfect using the phone. A guy would look like an idiot with it though (unless you're the poser I-think-I'm-so-cool-type). Sumore got touch screen! Woo hoo! Oh 5MP cam too tongue.gif And the UI is gorgeous.


QUOTE(lek_e30 @ Nov 10 2007, 10:10 PM)
wanna ask repeated question, how much is this phone? ori?AP?
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Edit: Forgot to say to lek: Try ask stratos. He's dealer is giving him an m2 card to give away as a promotional thingy! That's damn good biggrin.gif

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post Nov 11 2007, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(neeko @ Nov 11 2007, 03:51 AM)
AP RM1600+2G M2 in Batu Pahat, Johor


Added on November 11, 2007, 3:54 am
I'm a boy, with w910i hearty red cry.gif  icon_question.gif
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Nothing wrong with using the red one ler. Just that you'll look really funny with a viewty/shine/prada laugh.gif

Guys and fashion phone kinda don't really go hand in hand. You're either not straight or very metro. More oft than not it's the former tongue.gif

QUOTE(supazta @ Nov 11 2007, 07:07 AM)
uve tested viewty?
dang.
iphone's UI is cooler right?
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Most definitely. But the again, to each his own. The iPhone's released here but crazy expensive. Over 200 quids ON TOP of a contract that is not attractive. At all.

QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Nov 11 2007, 10:30 AM)
i think the standard package comes with 2GB M2

even renee's set also bundled with 2GB M2
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Wah. That means the asian edition is better! Haha tongue.gif
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post Nov 16 2007, 06:40 AM

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What is there even to choose? The w580 has no 3G. That in itself makes the w910 win hands down sweat.gif

I personally don't like how the w580 looks. Don't like the build quality. It's like I'm holding some cheap plastic toy. Only good thing about that phone to me is the fact that it has that pedometer thingy. Other than that...

Well, to each his/her own I guess.
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post Nov 17 2007, 01:47 AM

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I personally preffer something that looks sleek as opposed to something that looks... Well, lala-ish. laugh.gif

Minimalistic design appeals to me. The design would be classic and would still look good 5 years from now. Compare the 8850 and 8310. The 8310 back then had the "wow" factor. But look at it now. Similarly, look at the 8850. But that's just my take on things smile.gif


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post Nov 19 2007, 07:31 AM

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Whoah. Price drop like crazy. Shite. Should've gotten a different phone instead. laugh.gif

Just for a heads up, it seems the newer batch have lotsa problem. For those getting the dodgy AP sets, don't get one with the orange sticker, coz apparently they've the most returned sets here in UK.

Luckily, mine is ok biggrin.gif
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post Nov 20 2007, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(gwsa @ Nov 19 2007, 11:32 AM)
erm marquis..what do u mean by orange sticker?? i'm going to get 1 soon...any advise?? flex.gif
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You know some dodgy ap sets, it's just refurshibed/returned sets from other countries slapped with a warranty. A dead giveaway is they brand the phone. Vodafone and orange tend to do this. Tmobile too. Not common, esp for a new phone, but it could happen. So just be warry.

QUOTE(neeko @ Nov 19 2007, 05:51 PM)
UK AP won't in MLY guah...
atleast not the sticker
so, can't prevent doh.gif
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You'd be suprised as to what's sold in Malaysia and what's not wink.gif

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post Dec 4 2007, 09:02 PM

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Contrary to what you guys have experienced, I've not encountered any lagginess issue..yet.

It seems to affect some batches more than most. Lucky for me, it's all good biggrin.gif

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