just found out airbnb in osaka and kyoto is expensive, it's even more expensive than what i stayed in shinjuku like 3 years ago
hotels in kyoto is even more insanely priced
The cheapest airbnb i can find for 5D4N is RM1800 for 4 person near kyoto station

this is what i can come up for kyoto so far...need opinion
Oct 3rd (Thursday) – Reached KIX, haruka/limousine bus to kyoto
Oct 4th (Friday) – Kiyomizu-dera, Kodaiji Temple, Yasaka Shrine till Gion-Shijo Station, Kawaramachi Shopping Street, Nishiki Market, Imperial palace
Oct 5th (Saturday) – Arashiyama Bamboo Forest, Golden Pavilion
Oct 6th (Sunday) – Fushimi Inari, Uji(Maybe), Nara
OCt 7th(Monday) - ????, back osaka

Anyone idea where can i slip in ginkakuji and philosopher's path?..or can skip?
or put on monday morning?

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Apr 11 2019, 06:19 PM

Japan still allow airbnb ke? Thought banned?

Also, shud avoid kyoto during wikens
Unless u wanna see people sea, people sky



This post has been edited by gaeria84: Apr 11 2019, 04:59 PM

I'm staying around Nishinari ward. roughly RM80+ per night for a 2 person apartment. Osaka is still far cheaper compared to Tokyo and Kyoto.
..and yes, Airbnb.

Also true about the weekend for Kyoto. Last time i was in Arashiyama there were like ~60 students cleaning up the river. Then again, this year its much colder than 2 years back on this date..


...also there were a carriage full of students when when i was on the shinkansen to osaka earlier today.

allow provided you have license and registration number approved and given by gov

i have no choice but to go kyoto weekend if i wanna go USJ weekdays
unless i do daytrip from osaka of course but namba's airbnb and kyoto's airbnb price difference is just not worth the daytrip it seems(for 4 people)

due to minpaku law. and also kyoto has accommodation tax levy.

Oct 4th. Nishiki market close at 6pm, n iinm 1 day of the week close. so do check and adjust. Gion Shirakawa & Hanamikoji Dori has nice surrounding. Imperial palace is nice, but path to it is loose pebble rock.
Oct 5th, Bamboo forest can be crowded. pls do go early. depend on how u return to kyoto station, if u using train, u would pass Nijo Castle.
Oct 6th, Do visit Uji. Nara is not pleasant. in fact both time i went to Nara, both time i dun really find myself enjoy too much. its way too overcrowded. i prefer Uji more.
if u stay at northern side of Kyoto station, i can suggest u visit Shosei-en Garden b4 check out. u can take a shot of garden with Kyoto Tower as backdrop as well n reflection of it on the pond.

bout Ginkajuji, i think on 5th. assuming u go arashiyama very early for less crowd bamboo forest experience. it has nicer garden compare to kinkakuji.

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thanks for the tips
ya, kyoto seem like cheapest is airbnb and even at that price...fuuh, it's expensive
not yet even including osaka accommodation

for the bamboo forest, i don't think i'm coming back via train
i read first page, based on regentcid, stated using bus to go back kyoto station from golden pavilion

will consider stopping by uji but IMO just not much things to visit in uji based on my list right now

and do u mean can skip ginkakuji and philosopher's path?

Negligible difference in terms of weekdays vs weekends crowds, which is why I avoid theme parks completely nowadays
It's better to get the express pass if you want to maximize your time at the theme park

Philosopher's path is only nice during spring or autumn. With your timing, only go if you have time, otherwise skip

For arashiyama, it's better to be there early to avoid crowds and also to get a better chance of scoring seats on the sagano train, then bus it to kinkakuji. Can skip ginkakuji if you've already seen kinkakuji

Nara is sorta a must cos it has todaiji

This post has been edited by gaeria84: Apr 11 2019, 11:10 PM

no way i'm getting express pass
it's more expensive than the entrance ticket itself
if i buy the entrance tix and express pass, it would cost near to RM600


ok, maybe will skip ginkakuji and philosopher's path

seem like the only place to visit in osaka is only namba, nipponbashi, dotonburi, shinsaibashi all the way to american village & Tsutentaku(other than USJ)

u can skip philosopher path. but if u really want to visit ginkakuji, 5th is ur best time.

at Nara, u can visit Nakatanidou. utube fame mochi making place. whenever u heard shout, u can see em hammering in process. just dont block the road/mind tat there are car passing.

Todaiji is way too overcrowded. n crawling thru the pillar also has very long queue.

Just come back from kansai, have luck to witness sakura fullbloom in philosopher path and keage incline during my last day in kansai on a weekend.. People mountain people sea



Have no regret to travel far to Okayama, as less tourist over there, Okayama Korakuen is impressive

Anyway, if anyone looking for spaworld alternative in osaka, I.will recommend this newly open Solaniwa onsen in Osaka Bay tower.



This post has been edited by ivzh: Apr 12 2019, 10:09 AM

Solaniwa Onsen was artificial made onsen. Good for those want to try onsen inside Osaka city instead going Kobe try real hot spring.
Once you try real hot spring, you wont back to those artificial one

Now you know my pain regarding accomodation in Kyoto
I paid AUD$900 for a 5 night stay for me and my wife this coming November (at least breakfast was included)

Sunday looks a bit packed with Fushimi, Uji & Nara in a single day. I think Nara itself deserves a day on its own.

Is Spa World artificial as well? If so, any natural hot springs in Osaka?

Haha ya artificial onsen, too bad I travel in group of family who is super shy to try the onsen, or else I may plan a day trip to Arima =(

Anyone I think it is not bad choice to kill time in osaka during late evening besides shopping in namba / shinsaibashi.

And since it is new, I think it will be less congested compare to spaworld

This post has been edited by ivzh: Apr 12 2019, 11:48 AM

Seconded on okayama, less frequented but plenty to see

wented to Kobe, Arima onsen. took a dip there, no regret.

Nakatanidou Mochi and Kamameshi Shizuka is the only 2 thing inside my list for nara

Don't think I'll have time for a trip to Arima though 😥