haruka express is expensive(unless u don't have icoca card thn u can bundle it)
last haruka express is like 10.30PM
less hope
i have pasmo on my hand, i don't need icoca..so haruka express is super expensive for me

i'm going to kyoto straight after landed, use airport limousine bus
last bus is midnight

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Apr 23 2019, 07:52 AM

based on my itinerary now
look like i have to buy the ticket on that day and on the spot
1st day arrival super late, 2nd day is packed of places to go
going arashiyama on 3rd day

arriving at KIX at 9.30, u still can take the train to osaka(namba station)

anyone ate at chifaja for their wagyu beef yakiniku?

any review and how is their beef?

need you guy's advice on my itinerary on kyoto osaka trip
is the whole thing too rush or?
and what can i do on the last day since the flight back is a night flight

yes
i do know those 2 market only opens till 6PM
some shops closes earlier than 6PM
i might go nishiki before proceeding to kawaramachi and etc

kaiyukan as in osaka aquarium?...my mom won't like that

2nd day i made it like that is because i saw this
https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e3950_higashiyama_half.html
not sure viable or not but it said can be done within 4.5 hours(half day) when reach gion-shijo/sanjo
thn will have another half day to explore the nishiki/kawaramachi surrounding area until night
that palace i put last is because it's optional, if can fit in thn ok, if can't thn can forgo and just explore the street like nishiki, kawaramachi, shinkyogoku, kiyamachi

for uji, i'm following regentCID's recommendation only
which is [平等院観音堂] [平等院 Byodoin] [十三重石塔] which is like going on a counter circle
but i still out uji as maybe, not sure if it's worth it(also depending on time after fushimi inari)

have u tried any all u can eat wagyu beef in osaka/kyoto?
i found chifaja at kawaramachi, review seem good


i set day 2 like that is because i saw this
https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e3950_higashiyama_half.html
not sure viable or not but said to be able to be done in 4.5-5 hours
mean will reach sanjo or gion-shijo by noon
i might drop the palace and just explore around the streets of nishiki and kawaramachi only until late night though if time doesn't permit

decided to stay in both kyoto and osaka due to not worth to do daytrip because consist of 4 person
1st few day will stay in kyoto, only on Oct 7th (Monday) will take the train go osaka castle >> osaka/umeda >> abeno harukas >> namba(airbnb)

1 elderly, but can walk...don't have mobility problem time
and prefer to shop and eat rather than temple
so those temple and shrine are probably just walk around, won't stay too long


looks like i might really need to cut uji away based on the timing that u said

This post has been edited by MR_alien: May 3 2019, 09:34 AM

JR do stop by uji
which is why in regentCID's itinerary, it's inari >> uji >> nara
thn later i found out kintetsu also travel there from kyoto but with more stops


i put kiyomizudera 1st is because nishiki open from 9.30AM but kiyomizudera opens from 6AM
so i plan to hit kiyomizudera and surrounding area 1st before hitting nishiki area
saves me time since i can start earlier

is JR more expensive?
because why everywhere i search, JR seems to be cheaper travelling within the city or outside the city whenever JR is available?
like kyoto station to nara via JR is 710 Yen while kintetsu limited express is 1130 Yen

most probably kyoto station
since near kyoto station and shichijo station

that's the problem, when i search on gmaps or hyperdia
sometime there are multiple route to each a specific location
maybe got A and B route
when i read itinerary, they use A route
when i search Gmaps and hyperdia, it has another B route that is cheaper

not sure which one to follow

differ from listing to listing(the person who manage it)
if still block mean they haven't release it yet
some listing can book 6 months in advance

nowadays i just type beside the location i wanna go with the station name
when wanna take the train only google or hyperdia it

actually i was about to ask this question too
so far, the cheapest is wifibaby
but i'm not sure how reliable is their service
samurai wifi is the most expensive of all..RM18/day

best rate is usually at bukit bintang, pavilion or midvalley
mtarate.com
http://mymoneymaster.com.my/
or walk around bukit bintang like in pavilion and sungei wang for best rate

u can just get a suica or pasmo in tokyo and use it all over japan, it doesn't just apply to tokyo only

cheapest form of transport from tokyo to osaka is willer express bus

none is better than another
suica/pasmo/icoca...etc are all touch & go with different design(my 2 cent)...functionality is the same
no need to buy from klook lah, u can get it in airport
the machine to buy the card and reload are all together

from tokyo to osaka only 2 option, bullet train or bus or flight
bullet train is very fast but very expensive and since you're only going 1 way, it's not worth to get JR pass
why not willer express?...it's very comfortable long distance bus

i did that before, no problem as long as the flight didn't delay
the machine is just outside the hallway to the train heading to the city...can't miss it
plus u need the card to enter
i didn't even take the last train, i boarded the 2nd last train

not very familiar toward bullet train, maybe other members can help

This post has been edited by MR_alien: May 6 2019, 03:19 PM

i did hakone only