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 Travel To Japan V12, Everything you need for a Japan trip!

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Monya Meow Meow
post Oct 14 2019, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 14 2019, 06:08 PM)
Any particular places to visit in Nara and Kibune/Kurama? smile.gif

Thanks I might consider Reikanji or Honen-in.
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Any other place to recommend to visit in Nara? smile.gif

Thanks for recommending Ginkakuji, I actually thought of skipping both the silver and golden pavilions lol.

I would definitely do full day for Arahisyama whole day but not sure what to do in the evening. Maybe just stroll around Gion or kawaramachi shopping area..

I actually live right in the heart of Gion actually..
Thanks! I actually want to visit Tofukuji early in the morning when it opens as it is probably the most popular temple for autumn foliage viewing.

So crowded even when it is early in the morning! https://www.travelcaffeine.com/fall-colors-tofukuji-temple/

Also going to reserve another morning for Fushimi Inari due to the crowd

I would make sure I go to Tofukuji and Fushimi Inari during a weekday smile.gif
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You can probably do the loop in Nara.
Kofukuji > Yoshikien > Todaiji > Kasuga Taisha > Naramachi

Ginkakuji should be nice in autumn, do it at the start of your northern Higashiyama route and make your way down to Nanzenji.

I'm planning to reach Fushimi ard 7 on a weekday, not super early I know but hopefully will not be too bad.

Oh and if you have a free evening, can check this out - https://flowers.naked.works/2019nijo-jo/

I already bought my tickets online haha!

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post Oct 15 2019, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 15 2019, 10:49 AM)
here are some tips for those who're travelling to kansai region

1. the immigration process only took 2-5 mins from the moment u queue, they have so many machine on standby
2. going out of japan are all using self check out machine like in KLIA2 for malaysian...but apply to all local and tourist
3. each place like kyoto, osaka, nara, kobe has their own confectionery(biscuit, cake..etc) so be sure to grab them if u see something u like...u can't get them if you left there....kit kat included
4. the seat availability for the sagano romantic train in their website is innacurate...it changes from time to time
5. if you're taking the bus from golden pavilion back to kyoto station, u can actually disembark at a bus stop in front of the kyoto university and visit the imperial palace and walk down toward kawaramachi(saves u a train ride to gion-shijo station from kyoto station)
6. visit fushimi inari by 7.30AM, it takes 1 hour to reach the top and 1 hour to go down....the moment you're half way down..you'll alot of people going up
7. the train in kansai region is more straight forward as compared to tokyo which is complicated
8. kobe is a huge area, i personally prefer u guys overnight if u wanna explore the whole place....it takes around 50mins to go there from namba station and back
i personally go kitano area, walk back down to chinatown...did not manage to visit harbourland
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Good stuff, thanks for sharing thumbsup.gif
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post Oct 15 2019, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 15 2019, 01:04 PM)
many places
there are multiple tori gates spot along the way up...got old and new
the one below when you're walking up is the most famous...especially the split

at the split...there will be a sign where it tells to to "use the right one only"
so the left one is completely empty...available for photo opportunities
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Did you try going up the left way? Is it against the rules?
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post Oct 15 2019, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 15 2019, 01:41 PM)
actually they both led to the same place
but they want to maintain left = down, right = up
so they put a banner on top that say "use the right one only"
so if u go early enough, many will use the left one to take picture since it's empty thumbup.gif
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I will be reaching Fushimi around 7am so that's good since I will have an option if the right side is crowded.
Any practical tips for the bamboo grove?
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post Oct 16 2019, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Oct 15 2019, 06:26 PM)
after some research and countless reading of blogs and contribution from this thread, here is my itinerary.
the temples in Kyoto are just for reference. i don't enjoy touch n go and will stay in the area if i like it and skip other places.  smile.gif
Day 1 will be 15 Nov, and deliberately organised in such away so i get to enjoy Kyoto more on weekdays (i could be wrong though reading so many is planning to reach some POI before 7am) biggrin.gif

Osaka
Day 1 - Arrival and check in. Mid night by the time reach AirBNB

Day 2 - Osaka Amazing pass (skipping the aquarium and tempozan area though)

Kyoto
Day  3 - Fushimi Inari Shrine > Tokufuji Temple > Kyoto National Museum > Sanjusangendo Temple > Kyoto Railway Museum > Ninnaji Temple > Ryoanji Temple > Golden Pavilion

Day 4 - Kiyomizudera Temple > Higashiyama District > Kodaiji Temple > Kennin-ji Temple > Lunch in GION > Maruyama Park > Chionin Temple > Nanzenji Temple > Eikando Temple > Heian Shrine > Yoshida Hill Temples & Shrine > Philosopher's Path > Honenin Temple > Silver Pavilion

Day 5 - Arashimaya Bamboo Grove > Tenryuji Temple > Monkey Park Iwatayama > Togetsukyo Bridge & Sagano for shopping > Lunch at Shigetsu at Tenryuji Temple >
Okochi Sanso Villa > Jojakkoji Temple > Gioji Temple > Adashino Nenbutsuji Temple > Otagi Nenbutsuji Temple > Daikakuji Temple

Day 6 - Northern Higashimaya Area > Murin-an Villa > Konchi-in Temple > Tenju-An Temple > Honen-in Temple > Yoshida-yama Mountain
or Sagano Romatic Train

Osaka
Day 7 - Don't know yet. I am quite clueless about crowded place  sweat.gif

Day 8 - Nara Deer Park > Kofuku-ji Temple

Day 9 - Osaka then 6pm > KIX

feedback is welcome if i can squeeze or exlcude some area. counting cost for temple admission is  bangwall.gif
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Your day 4 is far too busy and tiring IMO.
Also, not sure why you're repeating some parts of Northern Higashiyama on days 4 & 6?
Tenjuan is in Nanzenji while Honen-in is along PP.
My suggestion for you if you want a slower and more relaxing pace is to separate Higashiyama into 2 days, northern and southern for each.

Day 5 looks pretty jam packed as well to me.
It looks like my itinerary except that I'm dropping the monkey park and Daikakuji while ending my day at an Arashiyama onsen.

Go to Minoo Park for one of your free Osaka days (maybe day 7), the autumn colors there are amazing and you get to escape the busy city.

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post Oct 16 2019, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(X-Zen @ Oct 15 2019, 07:54 PM)
Guys, can please help to see if the below makes sense especially in the Kyoto Area (in terms of time needed and location proximity)
Day 1 (Stay in Osaka)

Reach Osaka in the morning 9AM

Drop luggage at hotel

Take train to Kobe and spend daytime

Take train back to Osaka for night time rest, dinner and go Shinsaibashi
Day 2 (Stay in Osaka)

Full day Osaka

Osaka Castle > Shinsekai Area > Kuromon Market > Dotonbori Area > Umeda Sky Building
Day 3 (Stay in Osaka)

Take train to Nara and spend daytime

Take train back to Osaka for night time rest, dinner and go Nipponbashi Den-Den Town
Day 4 (Stay in Osaka)

Take train to Kyoto for whole day (Keihan Line)

Tofuku-ji Temple > Fushimi Inari (up to Shin-ike Pond) > Tainai Meguri > Sannen-Zaka > Ninnen-Zaka > Maruyama-koean Park (Lunch in between)

Dinner and then to Southern Higashiyama Temple Illuminations - Shoren-In, China-in

Late train back to Osaka
Day 5 (Stay in Kyoto)

Check out and take train to Kyoto (Hankyu Line)

Drop of luggage at hotel before continue to Arashiyama - Tenryu-ji Temple > Bamboo Grove > Okochi- Sanso Villa > Kameyama-Koen Park

Lunch

Kinkakuji Temple > Daitoku-ji Temple > Koto-in Subtemple

Pontocho Alley > Kiyamachi-dori & Shijo-dori (Dinner and then back to hotel)
Day 6 (Stay in Kyoto)

Ginkakuji Temple > Honen In Temple > Path Of Philosophy (Anraku - ji Temple) > Eikan - do Temple > Nanzen - Ji Temple

Nishiki Market (Lunch)

Gion Shimbashi AKA Shirakawa > Hanami-koji (Geisha)

Dinner

Southern Higashiyama Temple Illuminations - Kodai- ji > Kiyomizu-dera Temple
Day 7 (Last day in Kyoto - Flight at midnight)

Last day to see what else didn’t manage to see the past few days

Else which one make sense below?

1. Katsura Imperial Villa
2. Ryoanji Temple
3. Ninnaji Temple
4. Shugakuin Imperial Villa
5. Enkoji Temple
6. Kyoto and Sento Imperial Palace
7. Uji
8. Kurama/Kibune
9. Himeji Castle
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If you're serious about going to Himeji, do it on day 1 in the morning and spend the arvo/evening in Kobe

Is there also a reason why you're shifting bases from Osaka to Kyoto on day 5 and not day 4 instead?
You're making 2 extra trips back to Osaka from Kyoto and back to Kyoto again which seems pointless.

You seem to have around 4 full days in Kyoto which is pretty good and you can split up the places according to area for a more relaxed pace.

1 day: Fushimi Inari, Tofukuji, Sanjusangendo, Uji etc.
1 day: Arashiyama area, Ninnaji, Ryoanji, Kinkakuji
1 day: Northern Higashiyama - Ginkakuji, PP etc.
1 day: Southern Higashiyama - Kiyomizu, Kodaiji etc.

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post Oct 16 2019, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(LinkZ @ Oct 16 2019, 12:02 AM)
Anyone just came back from Kyoto recently? Have the leaves turned yellowish by this time? I read that this year foliage is delayed due to rising temperature. Do you mind to share your pictures? Thank you!
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It's too early for normal Kyoto standards to have leaves turn in mid October.
Only the higher elevations would have changes in color.

You are looking at early November at the earliest for Kyoto leaves to change colors.
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post Oct 16 2019, 06:22 PM

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Maybe it's due to habit but I drank tap water as well when I was in Tokyo last year.

I felt fine with no side effects lolz!
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post Oct 18 2019, 06:40 AM

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QUOTE(L.Torreira @ Oct 17 2019, 09:56 PM)
Happy if someone give guidance 1-10 to give tips how to survive in Japan cheaply.

1. 200 yen unagi bento at 7 pm slash price
2. Go Kansai from shinjuku station through kosoku bus 1700 yen
3. Drink tap water
4.osaka amazing pass 3600 yen for 2 days for 50 rides
5. Temples are free in Kyoto. Fushimi Inari Tasha, yasaka shrine, philosopher path, mino waterfall, arashimaya

I think 10 days budget rm 3k per pax nothing impossible from tokyo-Kansai return
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Temples ARE NOT free in Kyoto. Most require an admission fee to enter the buildings or gardens.
Shinto shrines on the other hand are mostly free.
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post Oct 23 2019, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(scchan107 @ Oct 23 2019, 11:03 AM)
Hi, may i know which portal you used to buy your ticket online?

I see the registration in japanese i pening  rclxub.gif
Based on my understanding via Rakuten, after i pay via credit card, I still need to collect the ticket from 7-11 or FamMart with additional charges?

I also having problem entering my chinese name as full width kanji in Rakuten purchase page and it doesn't accept romanji character  cry.gif
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Yep I used Rakuten to buy and the physical tickets have to be picked up from 7-11.
There was a surcharge of 100 Yen pp I think.
My bro did this for me sweat.gif
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post Oct 24 2019, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 24 2019, 07:20 AM)
u use those e-hailing, their price is no different than any taxi on the road
so prepare to pay, only rich tourist take taxi in JP
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I think for short distance travel for example between Kitaoji and Kinkakuji, it makes sense to take a taxi if you have 4 people in your group (especially if a few are elderly).
I would use public transport majority of the time but I can see the merit in taking taxis for such instances.
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post Oct 24 2019, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 24 2019, 08:45 AM)
Any simpler way to go to Ginkakuji from Kinkakuji or vice versa?
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Probably the most straightforward way is that Raku bus, might take a loooong time though hmm.gif
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post Oct 24 2019, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 24 2019, 09:55 AM)
It's OK. laugh.gif I'm already planning to skip Gingakuji because not accessible for me. tongue.gif
Just that I didn't manage to go last trip and this trip also seems like not possible. laugh.gif
Hmm.. I read about a bus route that takes long time, maybe this is the one...
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For me, Kinkakuji is easiest from Kitaoji station and Ginkakuji is easiest as the last stop on PP starting from Nanzenji.
It does mean 2 separate days but at least less time is spent on the bus sweat.gif
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post Oct 24 2019, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 24 2019, 10:20 AM)
I will have to see Ginkakuji is nearer to which other attractions and see if I can squeeze in some time. hmm.gif
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If you go from south to north, it will be Nanzenji > Eikando > Reikanji > Honen-in > Ginkakuji with PP starting somewhere from Eikando onwards.
You can do that route in half a day.
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post Oct 28 2019, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Oct 27 2019, 09:02 PM)
just came back from osaka/kyoto/nara…10days family trip.

some attraction points are trap…lol. not worth to visit at all.

some tips:
1. KIX tourist counter opened at 7am, if u want to buy osaka amazing pass.

2. when u come out from airport, just walk to the opposite building to buy icoca+haruka. if u want to save money, just take nankai with icoca or buy ticket at the machine…super easy.

u can buy icoca from the machine itself.
top up icoca also super easy with machine or convenience store.

3. if u want to take nankai from osaka back to KIX to catch early flight, don't take the 1st train…it's full af…take the 2nd.

4. travel in kyoto use bus more than subway.

5. even travel 1 stop is same cost. plan your route wisely…

6. just use google map and u no need scare sesat…powerbank is a must have.

7. good luck to pure vegan…haha.

8. don't like some places with their late opening hour and early closing hour.
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Point # 4, does it not take longer with the Kyoto traffic and are the buses packed?
What are some of the tourist traps that you mentioned for Osaka/Kyoto/Nara?
Thanks!
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post Oct 29 2019, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(Mirrors_Edge23 @ Oct 28 2019, 03:30 PM)
Mind to share the tourist trap?

Going in Feb 2020
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I am quoting someone's post asking about tourist traps, not my own experience laugh.gif
Will let you know when I come back in December haha!
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post Oct 31 2019, 05:51 PM

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Shuri Castle in Okinawa got burnt down again... no chance to go dang!
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post Nov 1 2019, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(FreedomSeeker @ Oct 31 2019, 09:17 PM)
Lucky i went there last june via fukuoka. But TBH, the castle so so for me only. Maybe because of chinese influences in their culture, the castle look like those chinese temple in malaysia.

Do driving trip all the way to the top lagi more interesting places. Very nice scenery also.
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Just to confirm, I already have a PASMO card from my previous trip to Japan so there is no reason for me to get the ICOCA/HARUKA package right?

I can just get the HARUKA ticket from Klook and use my Pasmo to travel around the Kansai region am I right?

Thanks
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 1 2019, 06:27 PM)
yes
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