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post Sep 20 2019, 05:30 PM

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quite confusing on regen HP formula
i got yuna n prai
based on their skills at 4*
after 40k of battle using them, i think the database (wiki n jp) is not correct

yuna
Regen all party members (L) (3 turns) and restore all statuses
but when i use, 1st restore hp at 3++, 2nd 3++, 3rd 3++

prai
Restore all party members' HP (M) and Regen (S) (2 turns)
but when i use, 1st restore hp at 7++, 2nd 1++, 3rd 1++

why (M) is bigger than (L) ?


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post Sep 20 2019, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Sep 20 2019, 05:12 PM)

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post Sep 20 2019, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Sep 20 2019, 05:15 PM)
me also dun understand this
what slot it refer ? slot members in team ?

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this refer to the reward slot you got from dungeon.

1st slot reward requre 0 light/darkness and you got 2.45% of getting that item
2nd slot reward requre 24 light/darkness and you got 2.45% of getting that item
3rd slot reward require 96 Dark and you got 2.45% getting that item

so conclusion
if your current team only can access slot 1, you will have 2.45% chance getting that item.
if your current team can access Slot 1 & 2, you will have another 2.45% (2.45%+2.45%) getting that item
if your current team can access to slot 1, 2 & 3, you will have another 2.45%(2.45%+2.45%+2.45%) getting that item
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post Sep 20 2019, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Sep 20 2019, 05:30 PM)
quite confusing on regen HP formula
i got yuna n prai
based on their skills at 4*
after 40k of battle using them, i think the database (wiki n jp) is not correct

yuna
Regen all party members (L) (3 turns) and restore all statuses
but when i use, 1st restore hp at 3++, 2nd 3++, 3rd 3++

prai
Restore all party members' HP (M) and Regen (S) (2 turns)
but when i use, 1st restore hp at 7++, 2nd 1++, 3rd 1++

why (M) is bigger than (L) ?
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Depend on skill modifier & INT Stat.

Prai skill heal at 110% skill modifier and 20% skill modifier on regen thats why u got 700++ at 1st turn coz of heal, then regen is only 100+

Yuna skill has no heal but regen at 50% skill modifier thas why you got 300++ instead of 100++.

so technically is correct.

higher INT will result in higher healing/Regen.

Further Clarification , Yuna regen is 40% at 4* and not 50%. 50% is on 5*

This post has been edited by Edward_Ng: Sep 20 2019, 11:49 PM
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post Sep 20 2019, 06:40 PM

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post Sep 20 2019, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Sep 20 2019, 06:39 PM)
Depend on skill modifier & INT Stat.

Prai skill heal at 110% skill modifier and 20% skill modifier on regen thats why u got 700++ at 1st turn coz of heal, then regen is only 100+

Yuna skill has no heal but regen at 50% skill modifier thas why you got 300++ instead of 100++.

so technically is correct.

higher INT will result in higher healing/Regen.
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post Sep 20 2019, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Sep 20 2019, 06:36 PM)
this refer to the reward slot you got from dungeon.

1st slot reward requre 0 light/darkness and you got 2.45% of getting that item
2nd slot reward requre 24 light/darkness and you got 2.45% of getting that item
3rd slot reward require 96 Dark and you got 2.45% getting that item

so conclusion
if your current team only can access slot 1, you will have 2.45% chance getting that item.
if your current team can access Slot 1 & 2, you will have another 2.45% (2.45%+2.45%) getting that item
if your current team can access to slot 1, 2 & 3, you will have another 2.45%(2.45%+2.45%+2.45%) getting that item
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meaning before i go moonlight, i need to gather 6 members with 24 light or any combination as long total 24 (eg. 14 light n 10 dark) ?

QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Sep 20 2019, 06:39 PM)
Depend on skill modifier & INT Stat.

Prai skill heal at 110% skill modifier and 20% skill modifier on regen thats why u got 700++ at 1st turn coz of heal, then regen is only 100+

Yuna skill has no heal but regen at 50% skill modifier thas why you got 300++ instead of 100++.

so technically is correct.

higher INT will result in higher healing/Regen.
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can u help calc (L) for erina ? i just got her tome so eager wanna upg her
hope for 7++ instead of 3++ for 3 times

vivacity - Power of all party members +20% and Regen (L) (3 turns)
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Sep 20 2019, 09:39 PM)
meaning before i go moonlight, i need to gather 6  members with 24 light or any combination as long total 24 (eg. 14 light n 10 dark) ?

for 2nd slot reward, you need 6 members with combination of either 24 light or 24 Dark. you will get the reward
For 3rd reward, you need gather 96 Dark Only in order to get the reward


can u help calc (L) for erina ? i just got her tome so eager wanna upg her
hope for 7++ instead of 3++ for 3 times

vivacity - Power of all party members +20% and Regen (L) (3 turns)
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Vivacity for Erina is a 3 star skill, skill multiplier is same with Yuna at 4* which is 40% regen. if other factor remain same (Int same, weapon same, Badge same), at both lv 60. Yuna and Erina Regen is about the same amount. if your Yuna regen heal your team 300++ then Erina is going to give you the same effect. Of course both regen can stack means you will get 2 regen (300+300+) per turn.

Erina 4* skill life steal has 180% multiplier for heal. if prai heal you 700++ with 110% multiplier, Erina 180% multiplier will sure heal more than 1000.

but of course if your Yuna 5*, your regen at 50% multiplier with lv 60 weapon and better INT badge should easily give you regen 600++ every turn , with INT buff can regen even higher at 700++ per turn (Because in 5*, your int Stat is higher thus also means your magic attack higher, therefore your regen will also increase because of that)

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post Sep 21 2019, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Sep 20 2019, 11:42 PM)
Erina 4* skill life steal has 180% multiplier for heal. if prai heal you 700++ with 110% multiplier, Erina 180% multiplier will sure heal more than 1000.
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around 1.2k each member, izit?

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post Sep 21 2019, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Sep 21 2019, 08:13 AM)
around 1.2k each member, izit?
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actually unless you apply everything to healing formula however there too many variation. your weapon will be staff and staff has different stat than hammer(although staff tend to have higher magic attack), your chracter INT and magic attack will be different thus outcome will also be different so it is actually harder to calculate to exact figure.

One more thing bit confusing is Erina 4* skill life steal attack is at 180% multiplier however healing is (M) but i cant find the healing multiplier anywhere. so i assume when Erina attack at 180% multiplyer and heal will also be at 180% multiplier which is very large multiplier for (M) healing skill.

Even Mariel at 5* (L) healing skill has 150% multiplier which is standard. standard healing multiplayer is (S) 80% (M) 110% (L)150% no XL heal yet at the moment of this game. so unless Erina (M) will follow 110% which is standard multiplayer but did not disclose in wikipedia or anywhere else. your healing will almost same with Prai with slightly higher because Erina has higher INT and magic attack however i might wrong.

i dun have Erina at 4* so i cant try.

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post Sep 21 2019, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Sep 21 2019, 12:20 PM)
actually unless you apply everything to healing formula however there too many variation. your weapon will be staff and staff has different stat than hammer(although staff tend to have higher magic attack), your chracter INT and magic attack will be different thus outcome will also be different so it is actually harder to calculate to exact figure.

One more thing bit confusing is Erina 4* skill life steal attack is at 180% multiplier however healing is (M) but i cant find the healing multiplier anywhere. so i assume when Erina attack at 180% multiplyer and heal will also be at 180% multiplier which is very large multiplier for (M) healing skill.

Even Mariel at 5* (L) healing skill has 150% multiplier which is standard. standard healing multiplayer is (S) 80% (M) 110% (L)150% no XL heal yet at the moment of this game. so unless Erina (M) will follow 110% which is standard multiplayer but did not disclose in wikipedia or anywhere else. your healing will almost same with Prai with slightly higher because Erina has higher INT and magic attack however i might wrong.

i dun have Erina at 4* so i cant try.
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hmmm then i'll try ask at other forum, meanwhile hold to upg her

btw any other way to increase shadow point to 96 ?
i can see only bring helena to riftbreaker about how many times ? 300 times perhaps ? lolzzz

also i remember i got white key but i could't find it in my inventory
yet to use it, how come missing ?

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post Sep 21 2019, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Sep 21 2019, 02:50 PM)
hmmm then i'll try ask at other forum, meanwhile hold to upg her

btw any other way to increase shadow point to 96 ?
i can see only bring helena to riftbreaker about how many times ? 300 times perhaps ? lolzzz

also i remember i got white key but i could't find it in my inventory
yet to use it, how come missing ?
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Dark is usually harder to up coz most people target light hero nowadays. Mariel, Myrus is all light units. Helena does not have 5* at this moment people tend to farm Amry or Aldo light instead. Average every month farming the same VH dungeon should give you avrage 35-40 Dark according to Reddit.

I never actually check my white key in my inventory so i not too sure it is missing from my inventory. every time i got white key next thing i do is straight away use it because i cannot get another white key if i did not use my existing white key. the dungeon door will shine indicating i haven't used my white key.

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post Sep 21 2019, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Sep 21 2019, 03:15 PM)
Dark is usually harder to up coz most people target light hero nowadays. Mariel, Myrus is all light units. Helena does not have 5* at this moment people tend to farm Amry or Aldo light instead. Average every month farming the same VH dungeon should give you avrage 35-40 Dark according to Reddit.
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so no chance to get 3rd rewards ?

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I never actually check my white key in my inventory so i not too sure it is missing from my inventory. every time i got white key next thing i do is straight away use it because i cannot get another white key if i did not use my existing white key. the dungeon door will shine indicating i haven't used my white key.
paiseh... my mistake didn't use it asap
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post Sep 21 2019, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Sep 21 2019, 04:11 PM)
so no chance to get 3rd rewards ?
paiseh... my mistake didn't use it asap
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for now if your team does not have enough dark you can't get third slot reward for Dark Dungeon. ya there is no other way, except your farm dark for your hero, keep gacha, or spent enchantment item on your dark heroes. dark/light farming is a long progressive progress it is hard to get 96 dark in one day unless you willing to keep on Gacha by spending real cash. brows.gif brows.gif

even u did not use the white gate. the white key will still there for you to use. it wont go missing at least in my case. it just means you cannot get another white key. means you going to dungeon without the 10% chance of getting white key coz you still have it.
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post Sep 21 2019, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Sep 21 2019, 04:27 PM)
for now if your team does not have enough dark you can't get third slot reward for Dark Dungeon. ya there is no other way, except your farm dark for your hero, keep gacha, or spent enchantment item on your dark heroes. dark/light farming is a long progressive progress it is hard to get 96 dark in one day unless you willing to keep on Gacha by spending real cash.  brows.gif  brows.gif
i plan to farm helena at riftbreaker n put her in reverse ( sure long progress maybe can hit 3 yrs... lolzzz )
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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Sep 21 2019, 04:27 PM)
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aldo skill god slash
Slash attack on a single enemy (XL) and slash resistance -20% (1 turn: max stack x4)

meaning if i use 4x, it'll stack 4x and slash resistance enemy become -80% ?

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Sep 21 2019, 05:47 PM)
i plan to farm helena at riftbreaker n put her in reverse ( sure long progress maybe can hit 3 yrs... lolzzz )
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not really that long . if everage 35-40 per month max 6.5-7.5 mths you will have that character at max dark at 255.



QUOTE(sitescope @ Sep 21 2019, 06:39 PM)
aldo skill god slash
Slash attack on a single enemy (XL) and slash resistance -20% (1 turn: max stack x4)

meaning if i use 4x, it'll stack 4x and slash resistance enemy become -80% ?
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yup
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post Sep 22 2019, 01:07 AM

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After several try...finally beat azami...next....

Do anyone know where claude npc is located? I only found isuka

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post Sep 22 2019, 02:49 PM

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In order to celebrate upcomming Update 1.7 Huge update also the ending of Ogre story Main Campaign

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From 25.09.19 onward for 10 days long we going to get 50 gem instead of 20 gems from inbox mail. so total 60gem perday included the cash shop 10 free gem.

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post Sep 22 2019, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Sep 21 2019, 06:55 PM)
not really that long . if everage 35-40 per month max 6.5-7.5 mths you will have that character at max dark at 255.
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that one if 100% success but it stated only 20% in VH mode so need to times 5
35 mths for 255... kekeke

QUOTE(InfoO2 @ Sep 22 2019, 01:07 AM)
After several try...finally beat azami...next....

Do anyone know where claude npc is located? I only found isuka
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u mean the banner ? still there

i on chapter 32 now, if finish then no new chapter, izit ?

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