Went to change my tires today and the workshop guy told me the lower arm bushing kong oredi. He recommend me to replace the whole lower arm at rm200+. When i asked why can't they just change the bushing, they said cuz need special equipment which costs extra. Add up with replacement bushing about the same price.

How accurate is this? Is there any workshop around PJ area that specialise in this? My car is Proton Saga FLX.

yes, kena install using hydraulic press. For proton it's easier (and almost as cheap) to just replace the whole lower arm

i dont think shop mechanic will help u change the bushing. is take times to do so....

replace with a new unit is faster.

some said replace bushing only wont last long.

Outside workshop can do it easily. Whether to just replace bush or replace whole arm depends. If 200 can get original lower arm, that's indeed better than just replace bush.

Lazy workshop. The shop can just go to a place that can do hydraulic press the bush and then install. Workshop no need to invest.

Anyone know if Proton HQ in PJ will be able to change just the bushing?

A lot of places don't have only bushes. Unless you are using poly bush. I changed mine. Not same car with your one. But there are plenty OE brands out there range from Rm1xx to Rm2xx per price whole lower arm. Workmanship add extra RM 40+-. But just so you know, it's better to change both L&R

This post has been edited by Jessieccy: Jan 19 2019, 09:17 PM

Hydraulic press normally cost rm 30 to 50 each. Bushing normally cost 20 to 50 each depend on size.

Any noticeable improvement using poly bush?

There are 2 proper equipments needed to 'efficiently' remove such bushes, either a shop hydraulic press or a bush remover set that's either the C-shaped or the single threaded rod model.

But for many under the tree mechanics, the most common method is to cut or burn thru the rubber portion then wack the inner brace out, which is very time and energy consuming, hence the higher service cost. And don't forget that there are 1 or 2 more bushes on that same arm which are probably due also. That's why they rather propose replacing the whole arm with a compatible unit.

That said, if only component cost is considered, just a brand new original bush is possibly 1/4 the cost of a whole original arm.

Never used it. I heard will affect my comfort, also need some maintenance if it start squeak. In the end I just replace the whole arm use back rubber bushings. Will last few years anyway.

Oohh.. i just heard it affects comfort and handling. Didnt know about squeaking maintainance etc.

It remove that rubbery feeling.
At a cost of comfort, prepare to feel every bumps.
Will squeak therefore prepare some spray grease to spray & pray for less squeak.

Alternative for between poly and rubber, is harden rubber.

Yup agree it’s cheaper too just buy the bush and go to a workshop with the presser. Mechanic charged me rm 10 for each bush that needed replacing by the presser . Cheaper then buying a howl lower arm. Cuz it’s the bush only that needs replacing. Metal arm still can last a long long long time as long as no physical damage.

Better you give the location of the shop.

TS, anyway I dont think the shop is quoting you rm200 for original Proton arms. Go ask from spare part shop or online. Much cheaper there.

Which of your vehicle's bushes got swapped to PU? Different location, different impact

Indeed rm10 is super cheap because most of the mechanic won't have the hydraulic pressure. Do share the shop if you don't mind, but I believe rm10 is special price for you.

Some with the press wont even want to do since there's always a risk of damaging the arm/bush if using incorrect collar

Not mine vehicle, a friend of mine, lower arm and rear axle.
Mine only did rear engine mount to PU.

The mechanic quote 2 prices, one for Proton part and one from OEM. Proton part is RM220 and OEM is RM180. Both inclusive workmanship.
My problem right now is finding a workshop that has the hydraulic press and can do the necessary change.

Bush replacement can be done but very little profit margin

Sounds like Proton. Do you drive a vehicle with forced induction? So how is the vibration that gets transmitted in now?

For FLX, Oem can get at much lower price than 180. I suggest you look into that.

Yeah proton.
Nope, only drive forced induction vehicle when working.
The only thing that vibrate while idling, is my RHS side mirror and minor vibration on my steering wheel.

I assume this is a Campro then. I assume you're on PU because the stock engine mount doesnt last.

I know a place in karak that can replace bushing. if u want go that far let me know.

Make a trip so far.. I think after paying toll and petrol, any savings also not worth d
Thanks for the suggestion tho.

Haih... this is probably why almost nobody does it.

Like everyone said... it's almost not worth it. A lower arm has 3 bushes... per bush maybe is rm30 x 3 = RM90. Hydraulic press bush is rm25 per pc = rm75.

Altogether also rm165 already. And the time taken is so much longer. Have to take the lower arm out la... bring to fella press la and all. Labour also how much?

Just change the lower arm.

Not much point doing that for a Proton/Perodua since replacement parts are abundant and cheap. Different story if it's a continental car with expensive arms

BartSmojo1ne
Yeah... guess I'll just get the OEM part from the shop.
The price quoted is inclusive of workmanship. I see the Proton pricelist certainly can get cheaper but I think it's purely for the part.

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/front-lo...5CVE6k&search=1

I got this from a casual search at Lazada

replace lower arm is 30 minute job only

I meant replacing just the bushing. Not every workshop has the hydraulic press to do it.

Shouldn't workmanship to replace even one bushing, be more than the labour involved in replacing a new arm? To replace, the arm has to come out, pressed out and in again, then assembled back onto the car. Spent a sum on this one bushing. Few months later, another one of the 2 remaining bushes koyak

replace bushing takes 1 hour and more , if you don't damage the bushing pressing it in

so just change the entire arm is better

personally, i find changing to PU bushes are more cost effective and durable in the long run.

at least thats for me,i have change almost 80% of all my bushes to PU.
Yes, not many places done that, especially in JB.
I know its more common in KL.

recently i also just change my rear bushes that are worn to PU, cost RM180 for both side.

Ur review? Better comfort, handling or anything? Or it feels the same?

Ur kurt in ZTH right? Still going on about PU bushes huh... hahaha... I'm actually working on developing flexible PU bushes now after our discussion about those solid PU bushes.

Of course PU bushes are better in terms of handling, the response is immediate and quicker and less roll in the car. However, all mods come with a price. Ur ride won't be as 'comfy' as stock bushes.

i second this. but if u keen towards comfort ride just stick to oem bush. for your case its make sense just to change the whole arm. no point spending more on labour/time just to press old bush and replacing a new one

Personally I think that is how they do it.

They take back the old one from you, give you the refurb one with new bushing, and sent the old one back to the factory which do the refurb. If you were to do a new one, I doubt you can get for RM200.

Hi you are from JB ? Where to get the PU conversion done ? Can you share the contact of the workshop ?

Wife's old car need to replace suspension link, not sure can change the rubber to PU.

Thanks.

Proton parts and the OEM for it are pretty cheap to start oredi.

Any shop in kl or Selangor doing bushing can intro? Think to change my Acu30 front bush

Mmmm... I don't know if my regular workshop does SUV. Every time I been there, all cars only.
But the workshop is very honest with their work and I haven't been disappointed yet.

Look for Pusat Tayar Khong Tai in PJ SS3 area.

If upgrade to Super Pro or Hardrace bushing can be done at Kakimotor or Hokomotor..

How do you actually look for "pressing" factory? What kind of shop do you search in google? I am sure there are such shops nearby my area but I don't know what keyword to find.

actually no need until looking for factory la

to replace new bushs need a hydraulic press machine

i have seen one very old and small workshop have this machine as well, a much simpler machine but should be effective enough

some newer shops might also have it, so you see, just a matter of availability only

some shops if they not have this machine, they just outsource send to nearby shops with such machine to complete the task lo

You managed to complete development of the flexible PU bush?

https://web.facebook.com/vapmalaysia/

Promotion was in 4.4 lorr. My workshop also quote roughly the same price.

So which shop anyone can recommend around Kepong area that have this hydraulic machine at reasonable price?

So have you found the shop that can do this replacement? I am looking for one to replace my rear axle bush.

I end up replacing all the parts with oem rubber bushings and parts.

Cause PU will make the ride more stiff which is something I do not want. Also, for local brand cars the parts are so cheap it doesn't make sense to do replace only bushings. Lower arm for Myvi is like RM90 for a good quality one (RM50 for cheap brands) but pressing a bush would cost more than RM50 already workmanship alone.

For more expensive cars, that would make more sense to go for pressing. However, PU pressing is super expensive. Replacing all the rubber parts to PU for a Prius cost RM2k. I find the pricing to be too expensive considering PU is not really that expensive. It's the workmanship but it is still too high for workmanship.

This post has been edited by abubin: May 8 2020, 10:29 AM

What he said is accurate. For your car type not worth to change bushing only and other complete part are equal cost (after add special cost to fix new bushing into arm). Price reasonable already.

Yeah... already asked around at few workshops and all told me the same story. Basic car better to just buy the whole lower arm.

Hi All,

I have a quick run down on the comment sections and I have some points to add also.
First it's better for you to change the whole arms reasons being.
1) Lower arm L/R might not be in good shape after some mileage. The arms most probably bend in a way you don't notice and this slight misalignment can cause your tires to wear out faster.
2) Lower arms that are slightly out of shape were due to uneven bumpy road, pot holes, speed breaker, accident, and your driving habit.
3) It's not worth to change just the bushing regardless of the labor cost. When your arms misaligned/ dented/ crooked you won't get good alignment with new bushing. It's forever out of shape/ not within stock tolerance specification. Imperfect arms alignment in regards to bushing will cause your bushing to die faster.
4) It's not worth to change just the bushing knowing the poor quality job any local workshops could provide. Most often they do not have the right tool to do the right job. They use their own way and that aggravate the misalignment severity.
5) DO NOT BUY aftermarket/ imitation/ fake parts and stick with only genuine parts (OEM we called it, original equipment mfr.). You will be grateful with your decision when the after market parts last you only couple of months to a year while the genuine part that cost maybe 2 to 3 folds last you for 6 years and above or maybe more. You don't want the "krok krok" noise to play again in your lower arms in couple of months time.
6) All mechanics will offer you after market/ imitation parts simply due to dirt cheap unit price and the much higher profit they reap from selling you those. They can't make good profit out of genuine parts because genuine parts unit price are fixed by dealers (most time) and they can't play with the figure. The genuine price is known publicly.
7) Stop wasting your time asking around mechanics whether the parts they offer are genuine. Go to any local dealer and get the 100% genuine parts for the dumbass mechanics to install. You can never go wrong with genuine parts.
8) Get your stabilizer link inspected and replaced too if you can afford it. Most probably it is due too when your lower arms give way + change the bushing.
9) Do not listen to what bush material is superior to what bush material, go get a genuine bush or better still the whole arm.
10) 10 times you ask a mechanics how is the quality of the aftermarket parts 10x they will answer "OK, not bad, i receive no complain so far so it must be good." Go screw them cuz my results proven 10x wrong otherwise with imitation.

I used to drive Proton Waja couple of years back, and my Waja basically half of it made in China/ Taiwan already because i went for cheap imitation parts without considering the damage whenever parts give way and at the end it gave me more problems (all the problems you name it) and an endless money pit. I could have save tonne of money if i go for genuine.

This post has been edited by kennethhoo: Sep 15 2020, 04:09 PM

RM200 for both arm and include installation then it a good deal.

Hey people, got my lower arm bush pressed and installed for my FD2 for LH and RH side. Hardrace hardened rubber which I bought on my own.

Paid RM 330:
- big bush pressing cost : 80
- small bush pressing cost : 60
- alignment : 40
- labor : 150

Did I get ripped?

Where you fix your car? If around city area this is reasonable, if out skirt the labor or pressing cost maybe cheaper a bit.

Seems pretty reasonable. But from my research, you can buy brand new lower arms (with new bushings) for about the same cost or less. Which is why I just got new ones instead.

I guess replacing just the bushings in more environmental friendly?

You need to do survey first, not all lower arm cost & quality is the same & owner also preference.
They are a lot so call cheaper OEM lower arm set you can buy you cant know what rubber bush quality they give to you.
So if the lower arm metal part is still good, most owner will prefer to buy original bush or performance type to replace.
As least they know what bush quality is fitted.

just changed my subaru arm bush yesterday. total 4 pcs, 2 big 2 small.

Upah cost me total rm130 only (bought the bush from shopee). location at Ampang (can waze for FX20 Auto)

surveyed at other tyre shop around ampang mostly ask for rm300 above

The mechanic is correct.
Need a hydraulic press to do this. Shops that do this also usually offer higher performance and more expensive bushings which amount to you buying the entire standard lower arms.

Well, I was replacing the lower arm for my proton saga and replacing with original proton lower arm is equal to or cheaper than just changing the bushing. Of course, I'm not saying the experience will be the same for all makes and models. If your car is on a different category, or you want to use performance parts, obviously the price is going to be different.

Standard rate to pump one bush is between RM20-30.

Add the cost of the bush. Plus determine the existing condition of the ball joint.

I just replace my lower arm. The cost replace bushing you add 20-30% can get new part already.

I changed the bush cos the cost for brand new original/performance lower arms cost more, plus my mech said my cars' arms in good condition still. This shop is in PJ.
But overall I am satisfied with the bushes, most significant difference when steering at high speeds. Steering feel inspires confidence. This just FYI for peeps considering the Hardrace hardened rubber bushes. Your wallet lighter abit leh

Hey bro, you replaced the whole arm or just the bushing? I'm located near Ampang area too. RM130 upah is cheap!



BTW, saw this guy replacing the bushing with just a G-clamp!

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3568787936498892

This post has been edited by jackyyong: Dec 11 2020, 02:19 PM

just the bushing.

yeah i surveyed more than 4 workshop before that, all ask rm300 or more for upah tukar

Which workshop did you go to that can help to replace the bushing?

Any recommendations for workshop with the presser to replace lower arm bush?

This post has been edited by gilabola: Dec 28 2023, 01:46 PM

If you are in KL, you can try Lan Automotive & Engineering in Ampang. I haven't tried it before, but let me know the results, price and service. I got to know about their service from a YT video.

Usually, if you are looking to replace the bush only, not many workshops will be able to do it; therefore, they need to send it out to others. Unless you are changing to poly bush, then they will have.

Its a bit troublesome for WS as they need to source the Bush and get the press plus the waiting time needed.

Hi, sorry to try to revive this old tread, same goes to where can i go for a budget/cheap bush change? I'm looking for WS that is able to do not to expansive cause i got 10 bushes need to be change （bought all original rubber bush myself import)

I saw recommendation of FX 20 Auto Ampang, unfortunately I think they closed according to Map view,

btw, I'm in Klang Valley area, base in Klang

The only place I know in Ampang is Lan Auto.. but a lots mixed reviews. Another place is FRL Performance (Also under lan Auto). Cheap but the workmanship is meh.. Need to pay attention when they are doing.

Iswara can replace LA bushing?

not worth the time and cost replacing just bush for local malaysia / japanese cars, just replace the entire new lower arm, about same price, less hassle, easy job.

Change one set... But from experience. Better off getting ORI as OEM has problems such as alignment and bushing quality. Dont let the price get you!