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 Collective KL could be a "CON" church

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SUSskyblu3
post Jan 11 2019, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(whitefong @ Jan 10 2019, 11:50 PM)
I just find out the Collective KL church is formerly known as a City harvest church, the "CON" church

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-24...star-dream.html

Kong Hee (founder of City Harvest Church and Collective KL church) Pastor's wife song "China wine" LOLX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x7WcpIsM3c&t=3s

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https://helenang.wordpress.com/2012/07/07/l...s-dream-center/

How can Malaysia allow them operate here in Malaysia?
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SUSskyblu3
post Jan 11 2019, 02:33 PM

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Last month on CI channel for a series of documentaty taking about cults.... Scary of what is happening inside. This series featured Jehova witnesses, davidians David Koresh, got one Christian cult lead by a Korean they hold guns in the church.,

Scary.
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post Jan 13 2019, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jan 12 2019, 06:50 PM)
church do wrong thing then nobody can question n talk about it?? woww, like dis wan ar? christian got the jangan persoal behavior la issit? oni can talk about the right things right? do wrong things then just sweep under the carpet n say let god judge? bunch of hypocrites
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Any religion also, the leaders of the religion don't like believers who always question them, challenge them, debate with them.
Religions loves ppl who just listen and follow. Hence they are known as followers.

My character, I love to question this question that. To leaders in challenging them especially when they are not able to answer my questions logically . Hence I got side line.

Today, I'm a free. Free thinker.
SUSskyblu3
post Jan 13 2019, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(agent sawyer @ Jan 13 2019, 09:39 AM)
I am not denying Kong Hee is a scammer

I am denying that Collective KL is a scammer

You have no proof that Collective KL is a scammer

Yet here you are saying these slanderous things

Well you can go ahead and continue saying it

Your own record is here for all to see

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They got force the believers to pay 10% or not
Maybe not force but put scare on you when you don't pay.

SUSskyblu3
post Jan 14 2019, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(b3ta @ Jan 13 2019, 11:38 PM)
it is quite ordinary for christians to pay 10% aka tithes aka zakat in any church

this point is has no relevance to this thread's discussion
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Yes. Ordinary.
But I do know some church of you don't pay enough the leaders will have a Counceling session with that person. Contributions put in envelope with names.

One church I go last time the pastor preaching time say if you don't give 10% then God will not love and blessings you. CHC type of modern church.
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post Jan 14 2019, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(b3ta @ Jan 14 2019, 01:08 AM)
Lol that sounds extreme.

I would avoid those churches. Giving has to come from the heart
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Exactly.

 

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