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Anybody from these 4 places? Untunglah.
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Other ISP TNB Fiber Pilot Run, Anybody in Jasin, Melaka lucky enough?
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Untunglah. Can i reach them for plant it at my area? My area damn kampung no unifiðŸ˜ðŸ˜
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Wow so many choices.
I still don't get it. Why offer the same price for the same services (except Astro with TV bundles) while all tumpang the same TNB optical line? Which mean confirm la City Broadband 50Mbps @RM79 is the clear winner here... Why wasted money for the same quality? (hopefully the dont follow TM's 30Mbps plan style w/ 60GB quota) |
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Why no RM100 for 100Mbps?
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almost time to say good bye to TM.
But...hope my kampung have this TNB fiber |
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can anyone explain .. tnb using Fiber cable same like TM or other technology ? still dint have many info in this infra
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Here's Astro punya package.
QUOTE(MrSpeedy @ Jan 8 2019, 07:16 PM) Wow so many choices. Celcom & City clearly stated in the brochure but not Digi but most probably unlimited too. I still don't get it. Why offer the same price for the same services (except Astro with TV bundles) while all tumpang the same TNB optical line? Which mean confirm la City Broadband 50Mbps @RM79 is the clear winner here... Why wasted money for the same quality? (hopefully the dont follow TM's 30Mbps plan style w/ 60GB quota) QUOTE(sleyer @ Jan 8 2019, 08:26 PM) can anyone explain .. tnb using Fiber cable same like TM or other technology ? still dint have many info in this infra Yes fiber too. This post has been edited by Joseph Hahn: Jan 8 2019, 08:37 PM |
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Pekan Mahang Kedah place house is no area all fibre...
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Hooorayyy time to boycott maxis and unifi
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Haha... Just managed to sign up UniFi nia. Will test this after 2 years.
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TM is looking into these seriously, no wonder many area in Melaka they upgraded their conventional cooper into fiber. I see many main roads in rural area now got FDC in some of the poles. At least they can hold many new contracts for their users before the TNB fibers fully implemented.
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Jan 9 2019, 10:53 AM) TM is looking into these seriously, no wonder many area in Melaka they upgraded their conventional cooper into fiber. I see many main roads in rural area now got FDC in some of the poles. At least they can hold many new contracts for their users before the TNB fibers fully implemented. Yes, I am one of the lucky that get UniFi after waiting for 'N' years. At least, TM has me for another 2 years. |
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QUOTE(Joseph Hahn @ Jan 8 2019, 04:55 PM) Taman Merbau Perdana lol, city broadband put "ip: dynamic" as precision, but the real issue is not ip is static or dynamic. static ip always costs a bomb with any isp; by default we can always assume that an isp will give us dynamic ip, not static.Taman Maju Felda Kemendor Kuarters Polis Jasin Anybody from these 4 places? Untunglah. i have a feeling the guy who made the brochure got confused and wanted to say "private dynamic ip", just like a typical natted ip we get from mobile telcos. i suggest those who are thinking of dumping unifi to get this package to ask for clarification from city broadband first. private ip will not support many of the applications we normally use for home broadband (smart home, CCTV, home server, etc). |
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QUOTE(MrSpeedy @ Jan 8 2019, 07:16 PM) Wow so many choices. although same fiber but different ISP manages their own network and routeI still don't get it. Why offer the same price for the same services (except Astro with TV bundles) while all tumpang the same TNB optical line? Which mean confirm la City Broadband 50Mbps @RM79 is the clear winner here... Why wasted money for the same quality? (hopefully the dont follow TM's 30Mbps plan style w/ 60GB quota) same like TM and maxis uses the same fiber but both offer different ping and different downtime |
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QUOTE(arturo_bandini @ Jan 9 2019, 01:03 PM) lol, city broadband put "ip: dynamic" as precision, but the real issue is not ip is static or dynamic. static ip always costs a bomb with any isp; by default we can always assume that an isp will give us dynamic ip, not static. only business users get to use static IPi have a feeling the guy who made the brochure got confused and wanted to say "private dynamic ip", just like a typical natted ip we get from mobile telcos. i suggest those who are thinking of dumping unifi to get this package to ask for clarification from city broadband first. private ip will not support many of the applications we normally use for home broadband (smart home, CCTV, home server, etc). most home users only get to use dynamic IP nowadays most TM home users are using "private dynamic IP" as well last time when dynamic IP, the IP keeps jumping...from 175, 124, 60.52...etc etc thn slowly all become private dynamic IP which mean you're under dynamic IP(175) but it's shared among many..so your ip address will be 10.XX.XX.XXX...private IP address |
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Anyone know what is the TNB technology that they did in Jasin Melaka? is it something similar to TM, tarik fibre, hook up white box, etc? or completely new? I just want to estimate how quick TNB fibre broandband can roll out to whole msia. thanks!
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Jan 9 2019, 09:27 PM) Anyone know what is the TNB technology that they did in Jasin Melaka? is it something similar to TM, tarik fibre, hook up white box, etc? or completely new? I just want to estimate how quick TNB fibre broandband can roll out to whole msia. thanks! Nope. They use the power lines. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband_over_power_lines |
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Is this technology reliable? How come nobody else is using it? It does support very high speeds though.
Any disadvantages? |
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QUOTE It may not be common knowledge but TNB owns one of the most extensive high-speed fibre networks in the country. Running along the power utility’s transmission lines, the infrastructure simply has not been put to commercial use over the years. Currently, the fibre network is primarily used for TNB’s SCADA (supervisory control and data acquisition) systems. This was supposed to change with the National Fiberization Plan 2017-2019 (NFP) that was announced by Communications and Multimedia Minister Datuk Seri Salleh Said Keruak earlier this year. Source: http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/news...s-fibre-network |
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QUOTE(Neptern @ Jan 9 2019, 10:34 PM) I guess the fibre optic cables runs along side with the power cables at least to the substation? Did i get it correctly? No, its literally powerline technology where data is sent over electrical cables using the mainly voltage and frequency modulation (most likely KV over high frequency). It is estimated that most of the space in copper cables are not used. To give a few referenceshttps://www.makeuseof.com/tag/8-things-powe...eed-know-first/ Essentially its an upscale version of what you can use at home. However that 1Gb/s is unimpressive actually but its a media catch, we think it means we get 1Gb/s to the house, but truthfully it means the backbone connection is a poultry 1Gb/s, so that means it can only support 100 users at 10Mb/s simultaneously for example. It is also half duplex as well. To give you another example https://www.reuters.com/article/us-at-t-int...s-idUSKBN1E70GB The backbone is unimpressive for wired internet, but if one needs to extend wireless internet like mobile internet cheaply this is one way to do it as you have both power and data on the same cable utilising existing infrastructure. Laying fiber optics is actually not cheap. The ones used at home at most are rated for 2Gb/s (i have a pair of them), in practice they sync at 10x less speed providing 200Mb/s over ground, live and neutral using 240V 50Hz encoding in live/neutral, and some other high frequency on ground if conditions permit. This post has been edited by System Error Message: Jan 10 2019, 12:52 AM |
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « from theedge : "Currently, the fibre network is primarily used for TNB’s SCADA (supervisory control and data acquisition) systems. " its not using the powerline technology i think.. TNB has their own backbone fiber just like TM but only utilize for their own network, now the want to use is for public.. Neptern is correct.. |
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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Jan 10 2019, 12:51 AM) No, its literally powerline technology where data is sent over electrical cables using the mainly voltage and frequency modulation (most likely KV over high frequency). It is estimated that most of the space in copper cables are not used. To give a few references No, they're not using Broadband over power lines - instead they use current electric poles to lay out Gpon network. Yes they do have extensive fiber networks through out Malaysia but they still needs to connect the last mile connection to customers home using fiber - which they provide to other isps, thus 'the open access'.https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/8-things-powe...eed-know-first/ Essentially its an upscale version of what you can use at home. However that 1Gb/s is unimpressive actually but its a media catch, we think it means we get 1Gb/s to the house, but truthfully it means the backbone connection is a poultry 1Gb/s, so that means it can only support 100 users at 10Mb/s simultaneously for example. It is also half duplex as well. To give you another example https://www.reuters.com/article/us-at-t-int...s-idUSKBN1E70GB The backbone is unimpressive for wired internet, but if one needs to extend wireless internet like mobile internet cheaply this is one way to do it as you have both power and data on the same cable utilising existing infrastructure. Laying fiber optics is actually not cheap. The ones used at home at most are rated for 2Gb/s (i have a pair of them), in practice they sync at 10x less speed providing 200Mb/s over ground, live and neutral using 240V 50Hz encoding in live/neutral, and some other high frequency on ground if conditions permit. See more in actions: https://photos.app.goo.gl/HGuJCmGWH1eJMP4d9 This post has been edited by izhamsatria: Jan 10 2019, 03:47 AM |
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they are using passive optical network (PON).. similar to unifi
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 9 2019, 03:59 PM) only business users get to use static IP all unifi package still public dynamic ip so far afaik.most home users only get to use dynamic IP nowadays most TM home users are using "private dynamic IP" as well last time when dynamic IP, the IP keeps jumping...from 175, 124, 60.52...etc etc thn slowly all become private dynamic IP which mean you're under dynamic IP(175) but it's shared among many..so your ip address will be 10.XX.XX.XXX...private IP address Maxis, you can request for public dynamic ip other telco not sure in detail though |
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QUOTE(amirsubhi @ Jan 10 2019, 10:01 AM) all unifi package still public dynamic ip so far afaik. i'm on streamyx, 2 years ago...my ip address switch frm dynamic to private alreadyMaxis, you can request for public dynamic ip other telco not sure in detail though if check what is my ip, it will be the usual 175, 124, 60.52 but inside my modem is 10.XX.XXX.XXX actually no difference unless u wanna run things like CCTV thn need public IP |
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QUOTE(izhamsatria @ Jan 10 2019, 03:38 AM) No, they're not using Broadband over power lines - instead they use current electric poles to lay out Gpon network. Yes they do have extensive fiber networks through out Malaysia but they still needs to connect the last mile connection to customers home using fiber - which they provide to other isps, thus 'the open access'. Wow thanks bro. Taman Maju? I also pusing-pusing last Saturday and found out that they are still installing the cables at some other places. Furthest is Kesang Jaya which is so close to my house.See more in actions: https://photos.app.goo.gl/HGuJCmGWH1eJMP4d9 Anyway, can mod merge with my thread? Thanks. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4719829 |
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ya apparently the ground wire for major high voltage connections between substations already have dark fibre strands hidden inside, so there's your backbone network
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Now what we are interested now the coverage expansion, is there any area to be covered after Jasin?
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 9 2019, 03:59 PM) only business users get to use static IP Can request.most home users only get to use dynamic IP nowadays most TM home users are using "private dynamic IP" as well last time when dynamic IP, the IP keeps jumping...from 175, 124, 60.52...etc etc thn slowly all become private dynamic IP which mean you're under dynamic IP(175) but it's shared among many..so your ip address will be 10.XX.XX.XXX...private IP address QUOTE(amirsubhi @ Jan 10 2019, 10:01 AM) all unifi package still public dynamic ip so far afaik. Oh, what about mobile broadband eg celcom, maxis, umobile, digi etc?Maxis, you can request for public dynamic ip other telco not sure in detail though Using private dynamic ip or public dynamic ip? QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 10 2019, 10:09 AM) i'm on streamyx, 2 years ago...my ip address switch frm dynamic to private already Got difference for me, less lagging stuttering even browsing here. And also game of course. if check what is my ip, it will be the usual 175, 124, 60.52 but inside my modem is 10.XX.XXX.XXX actually no difference unless u wanna run things like CCTV thn need public IP |
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I hope TNB deploy Fibre in my area soon cause TM isn't doing anything despite the demand and the growing population. Even the price is a scam. If TNB deploys their Fibre in area without Fibre especially rural and Sub Urban area, people would ditch TM and move to TNB and then TM would make some move.
Even at my TMPoint is had this advertise but the max speed can reach in my area is 10Mbps. What's the point of promoting this ? Attached thumbnail(s) |
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QUOTE(HariszKilz @ Apr 27 2019, 07:18 PM) I hope TNB deploy Fibre in my area soon cause TM isn't doing anything despite the demand and the growing population. Even the price is a scam. If TNB deploys their Fibre in area without Fibre especially rural and Sub Urban area, people would ditch TM and move to TNB and then TM would make some move. You share the same issue as me then, been waiting years for UnifiEven at my TMPoint is had this advertise but the max speed can reach in my area is 10Mbps. What's the point of promoting this ? 2 years ago agents came to my taman to collect names of those who wanna register for Unifi, saying it would be avaliable mid year 2 years had passed, no unifi and not even streamyx 8mbps is avaliable; worst, someone lives near me bring this to TM HQ requesting for an explaination they send an engineer here to do a survey, then ask us to pay for laying fiber else we are not going to get it in any time soon So the easiest solution we have is, the entire tmn boycott TM and switch to using other ISP We dont need your over-priced streamyx when we got Digi's LTE-A nearby |
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QUOTE(HariszKilz @ Apr 27 2019, 07:18 PM) I hope TNB deploy Fibre in my area soon cause TM isn't doing anything despite the demand and the growing population. Even the price is a scam. If TNB deploys their Fibre in area without Fibre especially rural and Sub Urban area, people would ditch TM and move to TNB and then TM would make some move. My neck.Even at my TMPoint is had this advertise but the max speed can reach in my area is 10Mbps. What's the point of promoting this ? Probably copper wiring not fibre wiring since max only 10Mbps. QUOTE(QuantumEdge @ Apr 27 2019, 08:05 PM) You share the same issue as me then, been waiting years for Unifi Wtf, ask you to pay for fibre cabling? 2 years ago agents came to my taman to collect names of those who wanna register for Unifi, saying it would be avaliable mid year 2 years had passed, no unifi and not even streamyx 8mbps is avaliable; worst, someone lives near me bring this to TM HQ requesting for an explaination they send an engineer here to do a survey, then ask us to pay for laying fiber else we are not going to get it in any time soon So the easiest solution we have is, the entire tmn boycott TM and switch to using other ISP We dont need your over-priced streamyx when we got Digi's LTE-A nearby How much they ask? |
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QUOTE(HariszKilz @ Apr 27 2019, 07:18 PM) I hope TNB deploy Fibre in my area soon cause TM isn't doing anything despite the demand and the growing population. Even the price is a scam. If TNB deploys their Fibre in area without Fibre especially rural and Sub Urban area, people would ditch TM and move to TNB and then TM would make some move. You know TM does not rule out the possibility that they lease the fiber access from TNB to provide home broadband service? Even at my TMPoint is had this advertise but the max speed can reach in my area is 10Mbps. What's the point of promoting this ? By the way, TM seems not very keen to expand the fibre nowadays |
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any news about TNB fiber? they seems to be very quiet
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QUOTE(Hummingbird @ Apr 28 2019, 10:07 AM) You know TM does not rule out the possibility that they lease the fiber access from TNB to provide home broadband service? TNB already had fibre since the early era but didn't have the permission to deploy their Internet due to TM. Now they have the chance to prove it. Basically, somebody need to destroy TM's monopoly. Tbh, I really don't care if TM monopolize the Internet BUT they won't improve their coverage. That's their biggest mistake. Just hoping that TNB would actually do something.By the way, TM seems not very keen to expand the fibre nowadays |
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QUOTE(yoong_y89 @ Apr 28 2019, 11:21 PM) Got some recent news tho but waiting approval and discussion. At the same time, they're giving green light to enter area without HSBB.https://amanz.my/2019203132/ |
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QUOTE(HariszKilz @ May 4 2019, 04:38 PM) Got some recent news tho but waiting approval and discussion. At the same time, they're giving green light to enter area without HSBB. thanks for the sharing. did not put high hope. i dont think they will expand fast also.https://amanz.my/2019203132/ |
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QUOTE(HariszKilz @ May 4 2019, 04:37 PM) TNB already had fibre since the early era but didn't have the permission to deploy their Internet due to TM. Now they have the chance to prove it. Basically, somebody need to destroy TM's monopoly. Tbh, I really don't care if TM monopolize the Internet BUT they won't improve their coverage. That's their biggest mistake. Just hoping that TNB would actually do something. What do you mean due to TM? |
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QUOTE(Hummingbird @ May 15 2019, 09:51 AM) hence news of TNB doing internet now making rounds, i believe it's good news, after all we already seen unifi starts as low as rm79 and maxis fibre as low as rm89 and time fibre also begins at rm99only streamyx was left out, in this case, it's bad |
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