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saikia2046
post Feb 20 2020, 03:35 PM

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You can buy Optima battery or Varta Silver. Both are gel but price will be at RM1k+ and will last very long under normal condition. I relocate my battery to car boot because front too hot and is not good for battery.
TSRoman Catholic
post Feb 20 2020, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(saikia2046 @ Feb 20 2020, 03:35 PM)
You can buy Optima battery or Varta Silver. Both are gel but price will be at RM1k+ and will last very long under normal condition. I relocate my battery to car boot because front too hot and is not good for battery.
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Yup you are right shifting the battery to the back is the best, away from the heat in the engine bay. Then why is it, car manufacturers ain't doing so, for our own good ? Hmmmm...

Oh my goodness, at those prices assuming is Rm1,500 average, is really too expensive for me, but it is good to know nevertheless. My lousy lead-acid battery already costs Rm270 & lasts for 4 years. So for an investment of Rm1,500-00, that ought to give me a battery life of 22 years.

Bro, what is the official warranty period given for Optima & Varta Silver ? Must be pretty long I presume.
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post Yesterday, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Feb 19 2020, 10:10 AM)
Ok and thanks for your information. Here's what I can deduce.

Polo. It seems to have an exceptionally high power consumption of 24 CCA/month, far greater than all the cars that I have tested todate. Or maybe that is VW standard thingy, I don't know.

Gen2. Now I think I know what you are trying to say. However if I had guessed it correctly, the Gen2 high power consumption 16 CCA/month.

Here's the thing, one has to factor in power consumption as well in determining battery lifespan. The higher the power consumption, the shorter will the lifespan be, and vice versa. I know for sure that cars that runs only during the day, their batteries last longer than cars that runs at night. Simply because there is no load on the battery from the lights on day cars. Since you mentioned about frequent midnight jobs, that could be your very reason.

My sister-in-law gatal-gatal when to install a huge entertainment unit etc etc and then asked why her battery cannot last long. Now in order to say money on the DIN55 battery, now she never turns on the entertainment unit anymore.

A good friend of mine came in a new Odyssey and said that the battery dies after a year period. With the 2 huge automatic sliding doors, USB ports throughtout the car for charging 5 phones dan lain lain lagi, macam mana tak mati ?

I met a Chinese lady yesterday, whom is interested in attending my talk next month. She said she tries not to use the air-con where possible, just to save money on batteries and she managed to push her battery lifespan longer than before. I commended that it was very wise of her.

If anyone were to run 2 simple test, using 2 new batteries & let it self-discharge by itself sitting on the floor. The higher powered unit will certainly out last the lower powered unit accordingly based on CCA differences by the same proportion.
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No no, if you read carefully my comment, my Gen2's original Ramcar DIN 45R battery should have lowest CCA of all, but it was lasted 3 years and ongoing. Bosch also another lower CCA of about 400 CCA when new, also lasted almost 3 years and ongoing. So you can't take assumption of my Gen2 was consuming high CCA/month just based on the Ce***** kaput case.

6UE5T also experienced relative low battery lifespan for Ultraman battery. I remember saw his was dead just before mine, just passing 2 years life itself. My another friend's 2017 Honda City also had Ultraman NS60S battery death within warranty period, meaning below 21 months.... The problem lies with the quality of Ultraman battery itself I think, not due to CCA rating or my car's current draw consumption. FYI, I don't use radio or fancy alarm system on this car.

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speedy3210
post Yesterday, 10:00 AM

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Most people would think alarm or entertainment system to be the culprit behind high electrical load. But in reality these things sit rather low on the scale of electrical load.

Try comparing the fuse values at the fuse box to get an idea on which system(s) use electric power most. If I were to hazard a guess, it will be the a/c and lights circuits.
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post Yesterday, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Feb 20 2020, 09:55 PM)
Yup you are right shifting the battery to the back is the best, away from the heat in the engine bay. Then why is it, car manufacturers ain't doing so, for our own good ? Hmmmm...

Oh my goodness, at those prices assuming is Rm1,500 average, is really too expensive for me, but it is good to know nevertheless. My lousy lead-acid battery already costs Rm270 & lasts for 4 years. So for an investment of Rm1,500-00, that ought to give me a battery life of 22 years.

Bro, what is the official warranty period given for Optima & Varta Silver ? Must be pretty long I presume.
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I don't know about the warranty. I'm currently looking for LifePo4 battery.
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post Yesterday, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(judehow @ Feb 15 2020, 04:03 PM)
May I know where is  get Bosch  reputable  agent and dealer ?
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Rawang sungai kayu bakau got 1 battery factory. They also carry others reputable branded batteries like bosch and gp.

If under warranty they will check battery condition and replaced with new battery if faulty.
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Feb 19 2020, 03:23 PM)
if you say the car was european marque, i might still be ok with the issue. But now you say that it is an innova, then i'm a little surprised, because japanese cars usually can continue running without a battery....unless this is really the design of the circuitry on innova....

care to experiment on another innova?  tongue.gif
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Bro., I need you advice.
Remember the Innova that died, immediately after the (-)ve terminal was removed.

Today, the home call and reported the new battery had failed.
Date of installation 14/2 the new battery was in high state of charge 12.6V with 597 CCA
Today 21/2, in just a week, the voltage had dropped by 11.78V with 108 CCA balance ???

Also when inspected closer this Innova it appears to have had a frontal collision because the materials and workmanship inside the engine bay does not look like it came from Toyota either. No wonder the 2nd hand car dealer was so eager to unload this by throwing in a Rm7k discount just to close the deal. 😨

Could a serious collision affect the electrical circuitry so much, that it has affected the battery until this state ?

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post Yesterday, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Feb 21 2020, 09:03 PM)
Bro., I need you advice.
Remember the Innova that died, immediately after the (-)ve terminal was removed.

Today, the home call and reported the new battery had failed.
Date of installation 14/2 the new battery was in high state of charge 12.6V with 597 CCA
Today 21/2, in just a week, the voltage had dropped by 11.78V with 108 CCA balance ???

Also when inspected closer this Innova it appears to have had a frontal collision because the materials and workmanship inside the engine bay does not look like it came from Toyota either. No wonder the 2nd hand car dealer was so eager to unload this by throwing in a Rm7k discount just to close the deal. 😨

Could a serious collision affect the electrical circuitry so much, that it has affected the battery until this state ?
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sounds like alternator not working to me..

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post Yesterday, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Zack Styler @ Feb 21 2020, 09:23 PM)
sounds like alternator not working to me..
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How I wish it was. The Starter Test and Charging Test, all pass even with a good 2nd hand battery that was use as a temporary replacement.

Here's the result of the 2nd hand battery test

GOOD BATTERY
Volts 13.04V
Measured 531CCA
Rating 550CCA

STARTER TEST
Normal
Volts 11.28V

CHARGING TEST
OK
Volts 13.50V

I sincerely hope my good 2nd hand battery does not suffer the same fate as the new battery within a week's time. This probably has to be the weirdest case ever, if history is to repeat itself. 😢

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