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yhtan
post May 8 2019, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(lznce2679 @ May 8 2019, 06:48 PM)
pre-determined locations by the app..dat can be avoided.. cannot put in pavilion.

only 2 locations can be avoided:
1. genting highlands
2. north kv
3. outside kv
4. putrajaya/cyberjaya + semenyih
5. south kv + klia area
6. west kv
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I'm going to choose mostly this 2

North KV - Puncak Alam, Rawang, Sungai Buloh, Selayang(Half) and IIUM

Outside KV

Genting and west KV i keep in disposal first

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post May 9 2019, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(forever1979 @ May 9 2019, 03:49 PM)
can is ask, during non peak hour, do u guys accept RM5 trip ? Say in sri petaling area. there are plenty drivers there even at non peak hour, like now..
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RM5 job has 2 concern, long pick up distance or heading to place where sibeh jam. This 2 are no-no.

But low peak season like this, RM5 is better than none. Just take it and move to another place also better.
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post May 9 2019, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Intimidated @ May 9 2019, 04:24 PM)
Precisely. If you have a group of taxi drivers near you, they get priority ping, then filter RM5 so those small fares go to you, sitting still at your spot will not improve your chance of big fare biggrin.gif

I love the momentum of driving AA B2B. Big fare, small fare, I sapu. I believe all my odds are better if I’m always on the move. Driving out at 8am, by 4pm I’ll get RM300 gross. Worst also at least got RM200.

Yeah yeah I know sure got HG drivers from ancient time say wah gross 300 in 8 hours not as good as last time leh. So go find your jobs and flip your burgers, or become activist to improve ehailing industry, instead of just whining what most people already know
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Wow u just got your new Myvi and becoming full timer
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QUOTE(Intimidated @ May 9 2019, 04:47 PM)
I've been a driver since before my new Myvi

Remember drivers here hate me? Say I'm an outsider, not a driver, but so many "expert opinion" about driving Grab

So I walked the talk, while many of these people quit
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so what is your opinion and feedback so far?

TBH AA cannot be use all the time lah, especially off peak hour. RM0.40 per minute doesn't make a difference either u on AA or non-AA.

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post May 9 2019, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(Intimidated @ May 9 2019, 05:01 PM)
My opinion and feedback remains the same: drivers that choose to stay after regulation will have easier time to make more money, simply because, got a lot current drivers not willing to go through regulation, or just simply can't.

I'm sad to read in this thread that, to some of you, the biggest hurdle is the PSV test. Never for once I thought literacy will be the road block.

I assumed most drivers will drop out because they can't fork out the money for insurance, etc. I'm really sorry to those having to take the tests so many times.

As for AA, well, it really depends on your risk tolerance and understanding of statistic. You can't always get what you want. So to me, the "trick" is understand and accept that, some days, the luck is really shit, and I get stuck in traffic during ride for RM5 job. I'll make sure to complain to Grab the fare is low, and get something back in form of TBB.

But overall, it all evens out. Just like putting money into stock market. Most drivers here behave like day traders. Market volatile a bit, will run around screaming it's the end of the world.

So if you are the type that can't accept the idea that not every day is perfect, yeah, better to just filter away RM5 jobs at peak hour. Don't have to waste energy worrying or thinking about it.
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Go read the terms & condition of the time booster, at the bottom it is written "All decisions made by Grab are final and binding. Grab shall not entertain any requests or appeals by Driver-Partners."

https://www.grab.com/my/blog/driver/terms-a...s-klang-valley/

Insurance is just about RM100-250 as i'm seen, mainly proton or perodua car. Since loke has remove the hurdle of vehicle status, i think the major 3 left are medical check up, puspakom check and PSV. PSV might take about 1.5 day for part timer. The rest can be done at weekend. I applaud this move because it really remove some hassle for visiting JPJ office.

I still cannot fully accept their TB system, but i hope they will able to be flexible on the compensation. At some bad day, i earn about nett RM0.40-0.45 per min or lower, normal time is about RM0.50-0.55 per minute. (For MP and UP slot)

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post May 9 2019, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ May 9 2019, 05:24 PM)
It has been a while since I drive during off peak hours. One thing I like about AA is it is less stressful - I don't need to look at the job info and make quick decision while I am driving.

I would say accept first. If really cannot tahan press the Cancel button. But make sure to keep the CR in check.
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non peak hour sometime cannot on AA, i kena 3x of RM5 job and wasted about 30-35mins on it. It is better to filter when there is higher demand.

This is my experience lah, sometimes if traffic is smooth then i on AA all the way. If i intend to stay on that area then off AA.
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QUOTE(Intimidated @ May 9 2019, 05:34 PM)
This link is to the post in this thread showing another driver other than me getting compensated for low TBB

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=92216492

The so called "complain" is feedback for trip, select "fare too low". Not calling to their CS and scold them. biggrin.gif If enough drivers do this, they will review to see if you are earning less than the projected amount for the trip
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This is once in a blue moon where their system totally haywire for some reason, i got RM6.50 because of 20-30mins under compensate, no breakdown or so what.

I think coming July, it will weed off mod user and those using fake account, probably ban by grab and unable to continue, resorted by using other people account to continue. This is the batch that going to go off soon, no PSV = no EVP from grab. They can't run from it because your photo and information has to be the same.



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post May 10 2019, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(lznce2679 @ May 10 2019, 02:56 PM)
aiyahh..forjot to put genting as avoided area..
got terip to genting today..luckily demand surcas was rm21. i can say..it's hot n sunny nowadays..even genting tada sijukk..
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demand also bad at this hour, go up maybe better choice also
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QUOTE(eksk @ May 10 2019, 09:32 PM)
so for those who filter kao kao.. how much do you earn in a day on average?
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current situation u filter u really can sit there 5-15mins and eat telur laugh.gif
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post May 12 2019, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ May 11 2019, 12:57 PM)
he started full time driving grab on 1 January 2019 (grabtology account) with first gen myvi. now changing to or already have his 3rd gen myvi.

act and write here as if he 5+ years doing grab. duh ? grabtology ? ring any bells to you ?

not that difficult to spot the differences between him and his grabtology dupe account. (accounts* , he might have more other dupe accounts*).

seriously don't know why you entertain that guy , yhtan

or maybe you just playing along as well.  laugh.gif

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spin story ?

so, is this where he started driving full time before his new myvi or on 1 January 2019 (grabtology account)
a true lembu back then (grabtology account) and a true lembu even till today (main account)
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and im sure his going to come out later saying grabtology is not his dupe account. any moderators , staff or admin wish to comfirm this ?
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Maybe is him laugh.gif


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post May 12 2019, 09:53 PM

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Saturday morning - traffic is clear but all the job is without surge, manage to get net RM51 for 2 hrs (8-10am).

Saturday & sunday evening would be a better time to drive, manage to get net about RM35-40 per hour.

First job is really tough to secure, i drive around Subang/Mentari yet no job, then drive to paradigm mall only secure to get one into KLCC. From there the momentum come and it was unstoppable.
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post May 13 2019, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ May 13 2019, 11:07 AM)
Peak hours is usually like that. First job need to wait. After that non-stop, if you are on b2b.

But if you toggle to unavailable when ferrying riders, and only change back to available after drop-off, need to wait again.
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Kinda tough to secure the first job, it took me 10mins on saturday evening and about 20-25mins for sunday evening. After that really non-stop b2b.
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QUOTE(river.sand @ May 13 2019, 02:00 PM)
RM5 job at a jam-free area vs. RM20 job to KLCC, which one would you choose?
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i'll choose KLCC at 6-8pm because not much of traffic during ramadhan month laugh.gif
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post May 14 2019, 02:04 PM

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Less than 10%? I think only 1% is ready with PSV (or maybe lesser) laugh.gif

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PETALING JAYA: E-hailing drivers are calling for a reform of the Public Service Vehicle (PSV) licence, and hope the government will extend the July 12 deadline for them to get the commercial licence.

Grab Drivers Malaysia Association president Arif Asyraf Ali said less than 10% of 200,000 drivers for the e-hailing service are now PSV-ready, and cited factors such as steep fees and difficult tests as problems faced by them.

He said the government should extend the deadline by six more months.

He claimed that many drivers found it difficult to pass the PSV test, adding that they were given questions which are irrelevant to the e-hailing industry.

“I heard from my colleague that about 100 drivers went to sit for the test, and all them failed.

“Books are not allowed and the only language used is in Bahasa,” he told reporters today, adding that many drivers could not read or write in Malay.

He said disabled drivers were also not briefed about the application process.

“We do not know if the driving institutes will provide adequate facilities to assist them or whether they have to undergo the same process like others.”

The government had said it would not extend the July 12 deadline for e-hailing drivers to undergo the PSV driving course, which is also a requirement for conventional taxi drivers.

Holders of the PSV licence, which costs RM115 annually, are allowed to drive any type of commercial vehicles to carry paying passengers, such as taxis and buses.

Meanwhile, a spokesman for another e-hailing operator Dacsee Community said the application process for PSV was confusing.

“We expect many drivers to quit immediately, noting that many are doing the job as their side job to gain income,” said Asliza Ali.


https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ly-12-deadline/
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post May 14 2019, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ May 14 2019, 03:09 PM)
AFAIK there is 6 set of exam paper and the question can be tricky. They forgot last time got janji lulus package so those people can pass easily, not no more because of new government.


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QUOTE(t3n @ May 14 2019, 04:47 PM)
Wanna ask now cannot book a schedule pick up anymore? I tried but dont have the clock button anymore...
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QUOTE(propusers @ May 15 2019, 09:15 AM)
http://www.jpj.gov.my/en/web/main-site/pem...driving-license

renew license at cost of RM20...

why news said PSV need 120? only first year need RM120 then subsequent renewal RM20?
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I believe what mentioned in the news was initial pricing for PSV, the cost for attending course + Exam is about RM120-200 depending on driving school.
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QUOTE(dylangan @ May 15 2019, 01:27 PM)
Haha, It looks like a perfect storm situation. Put in another few hours in the night and you can easily earn 5 to 6 k a month net. Everything seems to fall into place for you everyday to hit ave 200 to 300 during this off peak 7 hours. I guess 3rd element is getting consistent luck factor everyday. I started driving again 2 weeks ago after a long absence. Poor thing only had 1 airport ping for 2 weeks and only average rm 250 to RM 300 gross for 10 to 12 hours driving. I only managed to hit > RM 300 once and that's the day i got an airport job. Your story gave hope to all aspiring Grab drivers to jump into the business.
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if he said the figure is gross, then make sense. But now mid month and ramadhan month, with the TB low compensation compare to last week, i really doubt u can achieve the same figure compare to end of month and beginning of month.

Let say he earn gross RM200, commission RM40, TB incentive maybe around RM20-30, petrol maybe RM30. He basically left around RM160 without factoring the cost of car and maintenance.
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QUOTE(bbcmyh @ May 15 2019, 02:49 PM)
I don't know what will happen after July but for current situation your income is base on luck no up or mp slot even in some very high demand area you also need to wait like 20-30 minutes to get a job , mp up slot if you bad luck you spend 10 minutes to pick up point then wait 5 minutes pax no show you cancel get RM3 the next job come in RM 5 with TBB RM5 but the job finish around 30 minutes means your mp slot gone already , this situation always happen to me , so yeah I drive 2 year non stop already since grab start ths AA TBB shit pray for god is better than asking what strategy in forum
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yes exactly, i need to circle for 5-10mins to hunt for first job, after that everything will be good. Imagine last week thursday i have to circle half round at bangsar, then go to midvalley circle 2 round only secure the first job. It took me almost 20mins to get first job. It happen more and more frequent right after TB is announce.

The grab system is very very complex now, they look at your average fare earning and drop off point, then only decide your next job. Don't forget they will allocate priority job to grab rental, if they cannot cari makan, grab will be in trouble, it does make sense to let them take the ping first. U can try off b2b and then online back, u need to hunt for the job.
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QUOTE(dylangan @ May 15 2019, 04:55 PM)
The thing is his strategy is able to achieve it within 8 hours driving which i think will take most full timers like me at least 10 hours to achieve under current condition. A trip to and fro airport earning 130 will eat up at least 5 hours leaving 3 hours to earn another 170 is really admirable.
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he doesn't specify on what time oh, he said start from 8am, but full timer i know start from 6am or 7am, drive until 10am then stop, lunch time go again then aim for evening peak hour time.

from 6.15pm-8pm where i drive in, i can roughly get about net RM48-55 like that. Only a certain good day can net more than that.

QUOTE(river.sand @ May 15 2019, 05:07 PM)
Drop off point is definitely an important consideration.

In one occasion, when I was ferrying a rider, I got another job. The pick up point of the 2nd job was the same as the drop off point of the 1st job. (It was a service apartment.)
Due to heavy jam, it took me 30 min to complete the first job. Pity the riders of the 2nd job, who had to wait for me.

If Grab had assigned the 2nd job to another driver, the riders probably would not wait that long.

BTW the riders of the 2nd job were PRC. They were very polite and didn't make noise despite waiting for that long.
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If it is heavy jam, most likely grab cannot allocate another driver due to traffic gridlock, this time the price would be surge at maximum 2.0.

Last 2 week there was one day heavy rain until road was flooded, if u ask me it isn't worth to risk for it. I even give up one job to Dengkil at RM100+ at that time.

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