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post Jan 1 2019, 02:43 PM, updated 2 months ago

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Subaru doing promotion, RM123K only after discount
Which one better?

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post Jan 1 2019, 02:43 PM

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Top spec or base spec
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post Jan 1 2019, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Jan 1 2019, 02:43 PM)
Top spec or base spec
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Top specs for Proton
But not sure for Subaru. Haha
Sorry, me bodoh-bodoh type
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post Jan 1 2019, 02:46 PM

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Lol pujimak Bodo Subaru....

Those buying forester previously rm140k++ how??

Sama proton pun kecut telur??
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post Jan 1 2019, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 1 2019, 02:46 PM)
Lol pujimak Bodo Subaru....

Those buying forester previously rm140k++ how??

Sama proton pun kecut telur??
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Maybe old stock.but discount I heard is 16-17K
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 1 2019, 02:46 PM)
Lol pujimak Bodo Subaru....

Those buying forester previously rm140k++ how??

Sama proton pun kecut telur??
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Even before tongsan mali their picing already rosak.

When first launch RM 135k. Then tiba-tiba price jatuk to RM 116k sama as XV pricing. CB.
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post Jan 1 2019, 02:50 PM

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post Jan 1 2019, 02:50 PM

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post Jan 1 2019, 02:50 PM

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Clearing old stock, new model Forester coming out
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post Jan 1 2019, 02:52 PM

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You cant go wrong with subaru AWD system..... Subaru AWD FTW!!!!
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Go test drive first, Forester uses shitty CVT, see if you can accept it.

outgoing Forester model cheap sales, new model coming 2019.
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post Jan 1 2019, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Jan 1 2019, 02:59 PM)
Go test drive first, Forester uses shitty CVT, see if you can accept it.

outgoing Forester model cheap sales, new model coming 2019.
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When I sitted inside the salesman test drove Forester quite powderful. I quite like Forester but bo lui.
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post Jan 1 2019, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Jan 1 2019, 03:01 PM)
When I sitted inside the salesman test drove Forester quite powderful. I quite like Forester but bo lui.
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Forester looks boxy and uncle, I know they have been struggling to clear off stocks since tax holiday. Interior looks like from the 80's.

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Jan 1 2019, 03:48 PM)
Even before tongsan mali their picing already rosak.

When first launch RM 135k. Then tiba-tiba price jatuk to RM 116k sama as XV pricing. CB.
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Better x70 top spec trus hngghhhh

I thought u already have xv
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Jan 1 2019, 03:04 PM)
Forester looks boxy and uncle, I know they have been struggling to clear off stocks since tax holiday. Interior looks like from the 80's.
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Very the spacious lor compare to XV and sound proofing also more gooding compare to XV.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 1 2019, 03:04 PM)
Better x70 top spec trus hngghhhh

I thought u already have xv
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RM 135k that's why ended up with XV. Otherwise would have go for Forester liao.
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post Jan 1 2019, 03:10 PM

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subaru design never gets old, cos the new looks like the old laugh.gif
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post Jan 1 2019, 03:10 PM

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2018 stock?
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post Jan 1 2019, 03:12 PM

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123k can get hyundai tucson also
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post Jan 1 2019, 03:16 PM

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post Jan 1 2019, 03:18 PM

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Subaru forester. Better choice.
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post Jan 1 2019, 06:37 PM

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Subaru engine is always better than geely engine lol
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QUOTE(DanialTan1990 @ Jan 1 2019, 06:37 PM)
Subaru engine is always better than geely engine lol
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Dunno about geely engine yet. However all subaru boxers suffer from head gasket problems due to inherent design disadvantage .
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QUOTE(DanialTan1990 @ Jan 1 2019, 06:37 PM)
Subaru engine is always better than geely engine lol
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How do you tell?
You owned both?
Lol!
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post Jan 2 2019, 05:57 PM

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New forester comIng in June 2019.
So clearing old stock.
Final price 123288 for top spec
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join the geli hype, get x70.
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QUOTE(tatmeng @ Jan 1 2019, 03:45 PM)
Top specs for Proton
But not sure for Subaru. Haha
Sorry, me bodoh-bodoh type
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Ill go for subaru, even base spec

Long term investment

Not gonna be proton guinea pig
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post Jan 2 2019, 06:08 PM

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last time got my friend thinking either forester or wait for x70,

end up he get q7, and never look back. cb
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post Jan 2 2019, 06:16 PM

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Boxer engine kah?

but got any benefit ? Boxer engine in a SUV
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post Jan 2 2019, 06:25 PM

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I tumpang my friend forester, just bought 2 months ago. No boxer sounds like old one pun.
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Forrester underpowered and fuel guzzler. Check fuelly.
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QUOTE(juneong @ Jan 2 2019, 07:03 PM)
proton guinea pig ? u think what proton did or done with x70 ? girls ? speaker cover ? or what ? max they touch is number plate and roadtax.
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Wtf?
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post Jan 2 2019, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(zul_sur @ Jan 2 2019, 06:08 PM)
last time got my friend thinking either forester or wait for x70,

end up he get q7, and never look back. cb
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Q7 totally different budget. Haha
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post Jan 2 2019, 07:44 PM

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Doomsday will come in and recommend ts to get like his xt turbo
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post Jan 2 2019, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(alwinnng @ Jan 2 2019, 07:44 PM)
Doomsday will come in and recommend ts to get like his xt turbo
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I boh budget to get xt.
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post Jan 3 2019, 02:35 AM

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post Jan 3 2019, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Jan 2 2019, 06:25 PM)
I tumpang my friend forester, just bought 2 months ago. No boxer sounds like old one pun.
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it's CVT transmission la.. where got the wrabling sound like WRX?
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post Jan 3 2019, 03:31 AM

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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Jan 3 2019, 02:39 AM)
it's CVT transmission la.. where got the wrabling sound like WRX?
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Are you saying that the boxer rumbling noise comes from the transmission?
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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 1 2019, 04:10 PM)
subaru design never gets old, cos the new looks like the old laugh.gif
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now i understand why my father said "subaru baru"
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post Jan 3 2019, 05:27 AM

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Done some online googling and found price for Forester fluctuating, sometimes up and sometimes down.
Have to walk-in and ask the salesmen
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Jan 3 2019, 02:35 AM)
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OTR already ah?
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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Jan 3 2019, 12:12 PM)
OTR already ah?
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OTR Liao... Interior just like typical proton styling.

Handling dunno yet. Didn't test drive
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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Jan 3 2019, 12:12 PM)
OTR already ah?
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Banyak edi

Tapi darker colour suits this car better.. smth like brown
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Jan 3 2019, 02:35 AM)
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backside ploton looks better.

Front both also ugly.

Anyway if can afford, will take Scooby.
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post Jan 3 2019, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(ze2 @ Jan 3 2019, 03:51 PM)
backside ploton looks better.

Front both also ugly.

Anyway if can afford, will take Scooby.
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Scooby is what car?
Now considering Serena too
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Bobby Ang once said in his videos, Don't take their price on the brochure.

Walk into the showroom and ask for discount, their salesperson will give you very very special price which much lower than on the paper.
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Jan 3 2019, 05:40 PM)
Bobby Ang once said in his videos, Don't take their price on the brochure.

Walk into the showroom and ask for discount, their salesperson will give you very very special price which much lower than on the paper.
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Thanks. Will do that. Will go few showrooms.
The salesman I met keep telling me 123K is the lowest price for forester
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QUOTE(tatmeng @ Jan 3 2019, 05:37 PM)
Scooby is what car?
Now considering Serena too
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Nickname for subaru
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QUOTE(tatmeng @ Jan 3 2019, 05:45 PM)
Thanks. Will do that. Will go few showrooms.
The salesman I met keep telling me 123K is the lowest price for forester
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I saw the ads from youtube too, I think during Christmas sales, RM123k + free bodykit.
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Jan 3 2019, 05:48 PM)
Nickname for subaru
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Oic. Thanks. Haha nice name
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Jan 3 2019, 05:53 PM)
I saw the ads from youtube too, I think during Christmas sales, RM123k + free bodykit.
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Hmm he didn't mentio about the bodykits
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The design straight like 90's which ppl feel it bit dated
But i like it
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Jan 3 2019, 03:51 PM)
backside ploton looks better.

Front both also ugly.

Anyway if can afford, will take Scooby.
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Look closer on subbie it looks more nicer over time.

Subbie more value since it's AWD.
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subaru xv awd
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post Jan 3 2019, 10:25 PM

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Even the new subaru forester is underpowered.
Subaru bcoming Mitsubishi...
Getting shittier
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Jan 3 2019, 09:47 PM)
Look closer on subbie it looks more nicer over time.

Subbie more value since it's AWD.
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Agreed. The lower mounting of the boxer engine with the infamous awd, it was a joy to drive.
Plus the view inside the car is almost perfect.

Tried the xmode in a construction site going up a high slope and going down just holding the steering wheel as the system will manage the traction for you.

In the end I didn't buy as can't afford.

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QUOTE(ze2 @ Jan 3 2019, 11:07 PM)
Agreed. The lower mounting of the boxer engine with the infamous awd, it was a joy to drive.
Plus the view inside the car is almost perfect.

Tried the xmode in a construction site going up a high slope and going down just holding the steering wheel as the system will manage the traction for you.

In the end I didn't buy as can't afford.
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Thanks for the review. Will go around the showrooms today.
Hope can get lower than 123K
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Jan 3 2019, 09:47 PM)
Look closer on subbie it looks more nicer over time.

Subbie more value since it's AWD.
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This is the actual nickname there.. rclxms.gif
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Went to another showroom.
Quoted 120,288 for the Subbie
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 1 2019, 02:50 PM)
AWD system, nothing beats subaru
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No one speaks of Subaru safety designs like very good visibility all around. https://youtu.be/bjzmbw_4Y9c
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QUOTE(monkimajik @ May 14 2019, 12:53 AM)
No one speaks of Subaru safety designs like very good visibility all around. https://youtu.be/bjzmbw_4Y9c
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Visibility-wise is much better than CX5.
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QUOTE(tatmeng @ Jan 1 2019, 02:43 PM)
Subaru doing promotion, RM123K only after discount
Which one better?
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Subaru ofcause better
but service time dun complain that's it

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jan 3 2019, 10:04 PM)
subaru xv awd
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if forester can sell such best price , i think XV will be lower hmm.gif
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Proton! X70 All the way. Cheap and high class.
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QUOTE(tatmeng @ Jan 1 2019, 02:43 PM)
Subaru doing promotion, RM123K only after discount
Which one better?
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https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archiv...esbians/488042/

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/01..._foresters.html

https://priceonomics.com/how-an-ad-campaign...l-in-love-with/

UNLESS YOU ARE LESBIANS, DON'T BUY FORRESTERS

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QUOTE(bereev @ May 14 2019, 08:16 AM)
if forester can sell such best price , i think XV will be lower  hmm.gif
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Yeah just the price
But subaru car dna..all wheel drive..almost awd style
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Forester has the original grill design

X70 ciplak it and call it infinite weave

forester > x70
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post May 14 2019, 08:33 AM

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X-mode can go places not many vehicles can go.
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Jan 3 2019, 03:31 AM)
Are you saying that the boxer rumbling noise comes from the transmission?
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lol.

Anyway, the old boxer rumble comes from unequal lenght headers used in older engines. New boxer engines sudah use equal lenght headers to improve fuel economy and to comply with emission regulations.
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Most mechanics don't know how to service boxer engine

Have you seen the video how hassles it is just to change the spark plugs

Boxer engine good only during warranty period

After that it is good luck to you but if you change cars and don't care about RV., go for the Subaru

Very fun to drive

YOLO
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QUOTE(bereev @ May 14 2019, 08:15 AM)
Subaru ofcause better
but service time dun complain that's it
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Erm complain of the cost or the waiting time for service?
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QUOTE(tatmeng @ Jan 1 2019, 02:43 PM)
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Which one better?
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X70 la... spec wise
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For that price.. 2015 XC60 T6. 306HP > all
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QUOTE(Ewww! @ Jan 2 2019, 12:09 AM)
How do you tell?
You owned both?
Lol!
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X70 is 1.8 turbocharge engine

CKD Forester 2.0 is N/A engine

N/A engine will always last longer and easier to maintain compare to turbocharge engine in longterm use as turbocharge engine got more parts and piping to take care especially the turbo.
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Subaru japonis branded of coz that's better la
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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Jan 2 2019, 07:16 PM)
Boxer engine kah?

but got any benefit ? Boxer engine in a SUV
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Dude did you test driven Forester before and compare againts CRV and other similar SUV?

Boxer engine is flat & balance in design and got lower center gravity compare to others normal in-line engine.

Just think SUV already very high, engine also high in position when you go corners for like CRV will feel like a boat swing left & right when exiting the corners.
Boxer engine will help reduce this effect due to its balance & lower gravity design.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jan 1 2019, 06:52 PM)
Dunno about geely engine yet. However all subaru boxers suffer from head gasket problems due to inherent design disadvantage .
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That is not the design problem but the material used for gasket did not withstand the heating and cooling of the engine. That problem was in engine up to probably around 2010.
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QUOTE(tatmeng @ Jan 1 2019, 02:45 PM)
Top specs for Proton
But not sure for Subaru. Haha
Sorry, me bodoh-bodoh type
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See the boots. Forester is ok but see the lanijiao boot saje, SUV is like a joke for them
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ May 14 2019, 09:44 AM)
Most mechanics don't know how to service boxer engine

Have you seen the video how hassles it is just to change the spark plugs

Boxer engine good only during warranty period

After that it is good luck to you but if you change cars and don't care about RV., go for the Subaru

Very fun to drive

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LOL, my road side mechanic change my Xv spark plugs within 10 minutes. If you got the correct tools, you can change it easily.
When i buy Subaru, i dont care about RV. If you care about RV you should just buy Honda or Toyota and drive like other boring people OTR. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tatmeng @ Jan 1 2019, 02:45 PM)
Top specs for Proton
But not sure for Subaru. Haha
Sorry, me bodoh-bodoh type
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Current Subaru clearing stocks for Forester... NEW Forester will be way more pricy compare to current. So choose pandai pandai lah
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QUOTE(Zot @ May 14 2019, 10:08 AM)
That is not the design problem but the material used for gasket did not withstand the heating and cooling of the engine. That problem was in engine up to probably around 2010.
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Yup, agree. That problem is for the older EJ engine, usually after change of new gasket the issue also solve.
Starting 2010, the new FB type engine already improve in a lot of ways compare to the old EJ type.
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QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ May 14 2019, 09:24 AM)
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archiv...esbians/488042/

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/01..._foresters.html

https://priceonomics.com/how-an-ad-campaign...l-in-love-with/

UNLESS YOU ARE LESBIANS, DON'T BUY FORRESTERS

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That is isolated for US/Canada market during 90's and this is how Subaru turn the tide by doing proper marketing only during those days.

Different region got different customer, i own a Subaru does that mean i am officially gay/lesbian? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(tatmeng @ Jan 1 2019, 02:43 PM)
Subaru doing promotion, RM123K only after discount
Which one better?
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The new Forrester already launch in other markets. The model selling here is an obsolete model. Nevertheless, it is still a good buy at this price vs the X70.

I would have bought it if I don't already own the Subaru XV.

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QUOTE(littlefire @ May 14 2019, 08:58 AM)
X70 is 1.8 turbocharge engine

CKD Forester 2.0 is N/A engine

N/A engine will always last longer and easier to maintain compare to turbocharge engine in longterm use as turbocharge engine got more parts and piping to take care especially the turbo.
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Really?
My company toyotak hi ace van with 2.5T already clocking more than 300,000 KM

Never once break down. Regular service every 10k.

Change my mind.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ May 14 2019, 09:03 AM)
Dude did you test driven Forester before and compare againts CRV and other similar SUV?

Boxer engine is flat & balance in design and got lower center gravity compare to others normal in-line engine.

Just think SUV already very high, engine also high in position when you go corners for like CRV will feel like a boat swing left & right when exiting the corners.
Boxer engine will help reduce this effect due to its balance & lower gravity design.
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Yes it does make sense. Thanks for info

Yeah actually never had the chance to drive boxer engine car because only Porsche and Subaru use them, so rare

But I heard boxers are complicated, seem our local sc have difficulty in servicing them ? Is this true ?


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bestest ranking of SUVs in malaysia??
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forester of coz but the cvt is a let down and the interior looks ugly

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i think upon launching the new Subaru.. the price might drop to year end car price at around 118k..
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QUOTE(littlefire @ May 14 2019, 09:45 AM)
That is isolated for US/Canada market during 90's and this is how Subaru turn the tide by doing proper marketing only during those days. 

Different region got different customer, i own a Subaru does that mean i am officially gay/lesbian?  laugh.gif
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Definitely gayer
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test driven my friend's forrester but haven't test drive the x70 yet.

Forrester is..... okay.
Nothing to shout about in terms of power. Handling is OK.
CVT not an issue for me, way better than the Punch CVT in the old protons.
Interior is pretty quality but design macam 90s la
But it's decent.
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ May 14 2019, 10:52 AM)
Really?
My company toyotak hi ace van with 2.5T already clocking more than 300,000 KM

Never once break down. Regular service every 10k.

Change my mind.
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Bro, did you calculate the maintenance fee around the years?
BTW Hi-ace if not mistaken the 2.5T is diesel engine and diesel engine is always cheaper to maintain due to less parts compare to petrol counterpart.
Besides that Toyota engine also been proven in the years more reliable compare to the rest.

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QUOTE(Pete the great @ May 14 2019, 11:01 AM)
Yes it does make sense. Thanks for info

Yeah actually never had the chance to drive boxer engine car because only Porsche and Subaru use them, so rare

But I heard boxers are complicated, seem our local sc have difficulty in servicing them ? Is this true ?
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The new boxer engine is so simple even my roadside mechanic also say sap sap sui to maintain.. lol
If you ask me those older generation maybe yes, but newer engine is more simple and easier to service.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ May 14 2019, 12:06 PM)
The new boxer engine is so simple even my roadside mechanic also say sap sap sui to maintain.. lol
If you ask me those older generation maybe yes, but newer engine is more simple and easier to service.
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Hmm then why few car manufacturer choose boxer ?
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driven both, subaru better overall
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QUOTE(Pete the great @ May 14 2019, 01:46 PM)
Hmm then why few car manufacturer choose boxer ?
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Cost and packaging. Boxer engine need more time to assembly, material and part cost (2 heads [left & right], 4 overhead cams for DOHC design compare to normal 4 in-line engine only need 1 heads and 2 overhead cams). In term of assembly time & cost, boxer engine for sure is higher compare to normal in-line engine. That why most car manufacturer favor normal in-line engine as it is more cost saving.

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QUOTE(littlefire @ May 14 2019, 02:09 PM)
Cost and packaging. Boxer engine need more time to assembly, material and part cost (2 heads [left & right], 4 overhead cams for DOHC design compare to normal 4 in-line engine only need 1 heads and 2 overhead cams). In term of assembly time & cost, boxer engine for sure is higher compare to normal in-line engine. That why most car manufacturer favor normal in-line engine as it is more cost saving.
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QUOTE(tatmeng @ Jan 1 2019, 02:43 PM)
Subaru doing promotion, RM123K only after discount
Which one better?
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this is tough. on the one hand, you have a petrol-hungry, poor service proton. on the other hand you have a expensive to maintain, fuk ugly subaru.
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seriously

get XV

but still lack of iSight or whatever Subaru safety feature

and new Forester is coming soon
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i had never experience sitting in a subaru car or drive a boxer engine before...

but from the looks only, the forrester looks is dull compared to x70.
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easy choice
support our local tongsan product
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We chose Forester over CRV in 2016 due to Safety features and Xmode. Xmode you don’t use frequently but will save you when really required. I have even crossed a median and a drainage using x mode. Subaru will be really smooth for long travels. Looks is very subjective matter and even you buy other cars sometimes you will feel that new car models are much better looking. You may not be changing cars for just how good looking it is.
I got three years free service. Now I am paying myself for service. Let me see what happens later. Like many said, if you think about RV, you please look for something else. Subaru is for driving pleasure. I travel 35+35km for each day. Many times Subaru helped me to rush for work and I don’t think I will do with other cars with so many turns in our roads.
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Both also fugly, buy CRV or cx5 better
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In the end, I bought the Forester.
Like the SV design but boot too small for my usage.
Forester is very good in handling, especially corners.
Very comfortable during long journey.
Of course I don't care about the RV.
Just want to enjoy the ride



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