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cheepet
post Jun 19 2019, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(River @ Jun 19 2019, 02:04 PM)
I got a medical card with Allianz (umsir200) but it comes with an exception- Ovarian Cyst (that's what they wrote in the policy). So earlier this year, I tried to use the card for uterine fibroid operations, but it was rejected. Lucky I got company insurance to cover for the operation.

Now I got a bit worry. If they don't cover Ovarian Cyst, does that mean they don't cover uterine fibroids? Because for me, ovary is different organ from uterus although they are part of reproductive system. Does that mean my whole reproductive system won't be cover by the medical card? What happen if the worst thing happens and I got cancer in one of those organs (ovary, uterus, cervix). Does that mean they won't cover it too?

Talked with customer service before I submit I give the card details to the hospital, and you know la their answer- they couldn't give an actual answer and just advise to submit the application to them. I wish they could properly listed down the exception in the policy rather than just give me two words like that.
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Both diagnosis are different and they should not have rejected your fibroid operation unless the exclusion is for whole reproductive system.
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post Jun 20 2019, 08:13 AM

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When the TPA rejected your GL request, didn't they give you a copy of the rejection letter?

With that you can certainly file an appeal citing the reason of not the same diagnosis to the Claims Dept.

If their Claims Dept. refuse to honour the hospital charges, next alternative is to lodge your case with Ombudsman for Financial Services.

I would think you would get a decision in your favour.
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post Jun 20 2019, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(River @ Jun 20 2019, 09:57 AM)
They didn't. I didn't receive any rejection letter or email. Just got a call from hospital to say my GL request was rejected, and do you have another insurance that we can use to cover the operation? So I gave them my company's insurance details instead. The rejection letter was probably sent to the hospital? Maybe.

Thanks for your advice. Really appreciate it. I just wish they could be clearer, if they don't cover the whole reproductive system just said so in the first place la. Now I wonder if they going to send me an updated policy that exempted both ovary-related and uterus-related conditions. Can they do that? Changing the exemption while I'm still covered under them? Which is different from the one that I signed up for? hmmm...

Thanks.
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The Insurance co cannot simply impose a new exclusion if you have not made a claims against them.

However they can change or impose any new terms & conditions if you have made a claim and it is a yearly renewal policy.
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post Jun 21 2019, 11:38 AM

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[quote=River,Jun 21 2019, 11:30 AM]
Haven't claim anything from them because of the rejected GL request. I'm hoping if there is a new TnC, they should send me a copy and highlights the changes.

[QUOTE = lifebalance,Jun 20 2019, 10:40 AM]Question is, where is your agent ? shouldn't you be asking for his/her assistance ?[/QUOTE]

He did follow up, received mssg from him on the rejection and an apology about it. But I feel he also was subjected to the Claim Dept's final decision. I have no idea what else he can do. He thinks it was rejected because the diagnosis might be related to my pre-existing condition.

So far no reply yet from them, but I just want to settle this confusion for future peace of mind.

Thank you so much for your advice.
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Rejecting a GL because of the diagnosis might be related to Pre-Ex is really an amateur claims job. You have a strong case because both diagnosis and procedure are not the same.

Since you have already used your other cashless card, you would not be able to claim unless you want to transfer the cost from the other insurer.

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