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apalexar
post Jan 6 2020, 03:47 PM

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Seems like many ppl get scam by AIA telemarketers recently or perhaps since years ago, bank money get deducted without even agree to buy the policy
No offense but now I feel like AIA is the worst one (lack of customers) since they need to perform such market strategy..

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post Jan 6 2020, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 6 2020, 03:51 PM)
read in a thread previously....telemarketers conversation with customers are recorded....if the customers feels he is billed for something that he did not agreed to buy....he can always seek back the money.....
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jan 6 2020, 03:51 PM)
biggrin.gif they partner with Public Bank and Citibank to use their database to market to you guys.

It's not really a scam but you just don't understand what you've buying because the sales person will zoom through the TNC on the phone real quick / probably you don't understand what is the person saying.

As long as you said yes to all, then they will use the recorded audio as evidence that you've agreed, no signature required.

How I know ? well I played with them on the phone to find out how the modus operandi works biggrin.gif

My take ? after seeing a few people with similar experience, noticed they bought this plan but they don't really need it. In the end they just cancel it  sweat.gif
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Hmm why I'm saying that it's a scam because never said yes/agree to buy it during the conversation but the other day bank money straight get deducted and policy generated.
Search through AIA FB and there are multiple of same cases too lol..
Btw it's my friend’s gf that kena scam, according to him he say that she never mentioned “DONT WANT” word in the conversation, so I guess if someone never mentioned don't want then it means want? devil.gif
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post Jan 6 2020, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jan 6 2020, 04:11 PM)
tongue.gif lol well you can always ask them to dig back their pre-recorded for the "No" that they've answered, otherwise you can still request to free-look the policy as I'm sure the insurance will not honor any refund request after the free-look period unless you have evidence to show that you didn't want the policy from the phone recording.
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Normally how long is the free-look period? hmm.gif
I do hope that the refund is under processing or else AIA KL office is going to get some troubles devil.gif
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post Jan 6 2020, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 6 2020, 04:17 PM)
according to this....
Free Look

You may cancel your life insurance policy by returning it to your insurance company within 15 days after receiving the policy documents. The premium that you have paid will be refunded to you.

http://www.insuranceinfo.com.my/choose_you...intPrefLangID=1
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jan 6 2020, 04:18 PM)
the T&C is supposed to be, you need to receive the policy book and from the receive date, you have 15 days to consider on the policy. If you return the policy within this period, you can get back 100% refund.
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Thanks for the info.
Hmm if not mistaken my friend said his gf got visit bank after she found out the "scam" which the payment is done, then the bank's staff ask her to fill in one form and help fax it to AIA
If AIA say didn't receive the fax form guess customer side can say didn't receive the policy as well haha
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post Jan 6 2020, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(tyenfei @ Jan 6 2020, 04:37 PM)
Just walk in to AIA customer service center.

With MYKAD can check any policy under that owner. Then she can decide what to do.
AIA CS quite helpful. I walk in with friends before.

https://www.aia.com.my/en/help-support/locate-us.html
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jan 6 2020, 04:38 PM)
You don't have to go through the bank as the policy is now issued through the insurance company, so it's best for your friend to walk in to AIA branches instead to deal with them.
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They also tried to call AIA CS to request cancellation and refund, let's see before cny able to get back money or not.
Walk in will be the last option as it will not be soft one. smile.gif
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post Jan 6 2020, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(tyenfei @ Jan 6 2020, 04:51 PM)
I'll suggest walk in. Easy settle.
Check the nearest branch will do.
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jan 6 2020, 04:53 PM)
Normally you can't cancel over the phone, have to walk into the branch to sign off the paperwork.
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Weird eh.. how come policy can generated with phone call and without signature but cannot do cancellation and refund use back phone call? If so this country is sick leh
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post Jan 6 2020, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 6 2020, 05:12 PM)
while pondering if this country is sick or not,

read 16...
16. Can I cancel or surrender my policy?

Yes, you have the option to cancel or surrender your policy. We will refund the premium based on the table below, provided that no claims have been made during the current policy year...
https://www.aia.com.my/en/our-products/onli...r-plan/faq.html

it has a table showing the refundable % for every month of cancellation delay.....

hope you can tell your friend's GF to act (in the correct route) soonest....for her plan "may" have conditions like that too.
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Like I mentioned in earlier thread, they already made call to AIA CA and request for refund+cancellation earlier. smile.gif
Assume that they never receive any policy (I assume no way to track it since no signature confirmation and malaysia's slow deliveryas always), thus there should be always full % in refund devil.gif
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post Jan 6 2020, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 6 2020, 05:40 PM)
good luck.
and do keep us updated on this .
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Sure, if he updates me later wink.gif
But still this telemarketing stuff surely affect AIA reputation, it's just like my friend tell me about his case and said never ever buy from AIA → I help him spread again the news → others help spread it etc..
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post Jan 6 2020, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 6 2020, 08:52 PM)
the advise is always say "NO" thank you.

then no issue already.
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That's what I advised to him too laugh.gif
Now whenever heard AIA, the answer will be "NO".
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post Jan 6 2020, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 6 2020, 09:15 PM)
then say YES to other things called up by the telemarketers?  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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It will be depends on what is needed then whistling.gif
But so far until now I only say "NO" to all those telemarketers reached me

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post Jan 6 2020, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 6 2020, 09:29 PM)
Good advice... Spread this advise to Yr friends their friends too.
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Spreading so no worries wink.gif

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post Jan 6 2020, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 6 2020, 09:50 PM)
hopefully one less sucker are will be "saved" from your spreading.
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https://m.facebook.com/AIAMalaysia/posts_to_page/

Also, must say that AIA has the “guts” to allow public post what's their problem with AIA rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 6 2020, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 6 2020, 11:03 PM)
for educational purposes....or
they know they have nothing to fear or
they know that the customer if not happy and think that they are not at fault can always complaint to the PIAM INFORMATION CENTRE (PIC) & OMBUDSMAN FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES (OFS)
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Or let ppl know how bad they're laugh.gif

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post Jan 6 2020, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 6 2020, 11:16 PM)
or to let people know how many suckers are falling into the pits...like every few weeks can read in the news people still falling for the parcel or love scams or money games operators.
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Agreed, that's why telemarketers = scammers, same job scope with different title
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post Jan 6 2020, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 6 2020, 11:29 PM)
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good nite and good bye.....
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Night and bye too devil.gif

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