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ExpZero
post Feb 25 2019, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 24 2019, 12:53 AM)
Possible to claim for the deductibles from another insurance company? This is my company's insurance plan only covers 80%...
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Most of the company do allow(but not all). As far as I know, most recent medical card do allow to claim deductible from other insurance company or group insurance.

QUOTE(dlttdltt @ Feb 24 2019, 06:05 PM)
How does Aia premium holidays works ? They will deduct your monthly premium from your cash value ?
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Under normal circumstances, only insurance chargers will be deducted from your cash value.
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post Mar 4 2019, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(raul88 @ Mar 4 2019, 08:38 PM)
Wtf
Im super dumb for just found out today

Most life insurance in malaysia is considered not shariah compliance
Im using uforlife (has been rebrand to fi lfe) for over 4 years now

Any suggestions for shariah complaint life insurance/takaful
Need to change
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Go for takaful, takaful is definitely shariah compliance.
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post Mar 8 2019, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Mar 8 2019, 10:56 AM)
Hello sifu2 semua

i am a father of a kid, staying with wife in kl
monthly commitment includes house instalment ~4.5k for 35 years, car 800 for 9 years
working at government sector.

I had a policy of medical insurance from GE, inforced since 2015. Paying about rm310 per month

Recently the agent sent me a letter to extend my benefits from 80 years insured period to 100 years

Provided that i live til age of 85 and then only died of some sinister illness at that time, the offer seems legit.

However, how applicable and sensible will this decision be?

My thoughts are this
1. i am sure that this ILP is going to ask for more money from me to stay insured within the next 10-20 years, as the fund performance is some what lacklustre. Don't get me wrong, i do understand that purchasing an insurance is i need that coverage, because i can't afford the risks in future.
- so if i were to increase the insured period, some how these top ups premium to prevent my policy getting lapsed is going to be higher than expected

2. i do notice that the terms said that the premium will be paid at the expense of whatever remaining units left in my policy only at the age of 80 onwards, if i choose to extend the insured period.
- but then again, personally, i don't think there will be any units left in the policy even before i step into age 80;
- this means that i will need to top up way sooner and much more before age 80
- i do worried that if i do so, then i can't' afford the monthly premium - this is due to the fact that i can't calculate the premium increment as the market is so unpredictable and changes always.

3. am i under/over insured?

4. anyone had other views on this? or am i missing out on other points/aspect here?

Thank you

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1&2)Yes, Great Eastern is currently running an exercise to upgrade all existing policies from age 80 to age 99, the insurance chargers will only be charge after age 80. However, one should take into consideration that by the time you are age 80, due to time value of money, the insurance chargers will be very affordable(provided no increase of the projection). By right, we wouldn't be able to see what's our state of health condition when we are age 80 by now, so I'd advice you to go for the extension of the coverage to age 99 because the insurance chargers for it will not be "activated" until the you are more than 80 years old which is more than 50 years from now.

In case if you wouldn't want to continue the extension or simply can't afford the premium when age >80, you can just simply fill up a form to remove the rider from age 80-99 and voila, your policy benefit back to your current one, so there is no harm to get the extension.

3)You are not over insured. 4 most crucial parts in insurance planning are medical planning, debt cancellation, income protection and saving. You are having
-Medical planning- very sufficient, an extension to age 99 is advisable.
-Debt cancellation, it might not be sufficient, your monthly commitment of RM5.3k will be bear by your wife alone shall anything happened to you OR you have to fully commit to the RM5.3k monthly commitment without splitting shall something happened to your wife for the next 33 years.
-Income Protection - 45 Critical Illness protection is vital to replace your income upon diagnosis of the above 45 critical illness. Why? Well, who is the one going to pay for the monthly commitment shall either one of you fall sick? If the answer is insurance, RM200,000 that you are having will be able to cover it for about 3 years excluding your child's expenses, additional expenses when one fall sick, child education fee etc.
-Saving - put the rest of your money into investment/saving, be it property/ unit trust/ saving plan of your choice with different length.


Last but not least, please get your coverage accordingly to your budget, you can get top up of your insurance protection with certain special short term plan at very affordable price like RM300/month for RM500,000 life coverage with 45 Critical Illness coverage. you might no need to have a whole life RM500,000 coverage which protecting you from age 26 to age 99 because 25/30 years later, your children may grown up/ your house has been fully paid. 30 years tenure insurance is crucial to protect your prime period mostly between the age of 25-55, thus it can help you to save some premium for other purposes like saving etc.

QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Mar 8 2019, 11:16 AM)
tq for the replies
seems like not a good choice to increase the insured period

i am a father of a kid, staying with wife in kl
monthly commitment includes house instalment ~4.5k for 35 years since 2017, 1 car 800 for 9 years since 2018
(mrta of 6 years only)
working at government sector.
wife and i each earn about 5.5k each month
wife and i each holds a policy of 310/month each
no other commitments
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post Mar 10 2019, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(blibala @ Mar 9 2019, 10:16 AM)
Recently GE is extending ghe old medical card to 99 years from 80 yo. I asked agent and he said i need to wait for GE letter fon the offer. Cannkt fill up the form and submit ourselves.

Anyone has received the letter from GE on the free extension?
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To be honest, you can only upgrade during one month before and after your commencement month of your policy, GE will not send any letter to you. However, I practice collect all forms from clients and submit it accordingly to the commencement month.
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post Mar 11 2019, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(blibala @ Mar 11 2019, 12:05 AM)
I filled up the form and send to my agent but he told me have to wait for the letter as the offer comes by batches. Now it already lapsed. He asked me where i got the form and i said it downloaded from GE website. He refused to accept the form.

So what should i do now?  bruce.gif
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Send directly to GE if your agent refuse to accept.
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post Mar 14 2019, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(blacky88 @ Mar 14 2019, 09:01 AM)
Hi Guys. I have a questions on Insurance + MRTA / MLTA.

I am age 30 now, and am diagnose with early stage-2 testicular cancer 2 years back, and have gone through Radiotheraphy during that time.

From then until now, during doctors checkup everything on my health state is okay.

According to my insurance agent, I will be unable to purchase any insurance, or top up, going forward, and the previous policy that I purchased: Life + PA + medical will be the only I cover I have until 70 YO.
Is this correct?

Then 2nd thing is, I am currently looking to purchase my property for own stay.
And I am thinking which option I should choose between MRTA & MLTA.
If I am unable to top up or purchase new life insurance, I am thinking MLTA is a better option to offset my risk.

Can you guys help me clarify on this details?
Thanks!
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QUOTE(blacky88 @ Mar 14 2019, 10:49 AM)
I see. okay thanks for the reply.

1 more question. The bank is currently offering loan + MRTA.
Does this mean, even if bank offer me MRTA along with loan, in the end there will be trouble in approving the policy too?
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It's almost not possible to get any life/ 45 Critical Illness coverage from any company for 20 years duration of diagnosis. However, if your existing policy is under Great Eastern, you may get special offering of policy that is without health assessment, covering life and 45 Critical Illness(with exclusion of pre-existing illnesses). Example if Great Eastern is offering you a plan that is covering Life and 45 Critical Illness, you wouldn't be able to claim for the "cancer" but can claim for the rest of the 44 types of Critical Illness, well, it's fair enough I would say.

This kind of policy will open to public purchase but those selected customer by Great Eastern will have no health assessment. Some of my cancer client bought quite a lot during the offering. So, if you are Great Eastern policy holder, do keep in touch with your agent and remind your agent to update you.

Some bank officer do manage to apply MRTA for you, but it's without declaring your current health condition, this is kind of common but unethical practice back when I was a mortgage agent.

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