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post Dec 10 2019, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(ahwai @ Dec 10 2019, 05:25 PM)
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hi ahwai, whats the name of the plan and medical card?
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post Dec 11 2019, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Dec 10 2019, 09:12 PM)
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hi prescott2006, very nicely given info. in terms of over-insured/under-insured, it also depends on a few planning for example: since your son is still a minor, then you will like to factor in his future education fund + living expenses into your life insurance amount. of course you can follow the rule of thumb that most will use which is 10x your annual gross income. there is not right or wrong, just plan something that suits your needs the most. nod.gif
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post Dec 12 2019, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(kbandito @ Dec 11 2019, 10:49 AM)
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Hi kbandito, you are right. Love your input here. The 10 years rule of thumb serves as a layman guide. Detailed planning is not easy to be mentioned here. It always goes back to the fundamental of planning first before going into financial risk planning. I'd done quite a numbers of my friends and I do agree that different people need different risk management. I myself also structure my own plans whereby reaching certain age i dont need the coverage anymore. So yea really really good info provided by you. smile.gif

QUOTE(Brown22 @ Dec 11 2019, 02:31 PM)
Hi, need some advice here.
If I hv done nomination for my ILP and traditional life, do I need to get consensus from nominee to surrender my policies?
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Hi Brown22, to be safe, just have the nominee sign on the surrender form.

QUOTE(ahbeng_style @ Dec 11 2019, 09:40 PM)
Is it possible for a recovered cancer patient to purchase a medical insurance in Malaysia? Thank you.
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Hi ahbeng_style, it really depends on underwriter and companies (pray for luck and miracle too tongue.gif). I wont go to a conclusion that company wont accept your case. Best is just try and apply. Have all the past medical record documents ready. smile.gif
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post Dec 12 2019, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Dec 12 2019, 06:32 AM)
Thanks for the response. Would the cash value from prulink one/pru value med be transferred to the new policy or forfeited?
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hi tonytyk, the cash value in your existing prulink one will always remain there unless you do partial withdrawal/surrender the policy. the cash value in the ILP plan will just run and insurance charges will be deducted from the cash value until it becomes 0 and lapse.
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post Dec 19 2019, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(Whit @ Dec 18 2019, 09:26 AM)
Hi all,

Pls recommend me some standalone (not rider) insurance for me (26 y.o. single female)

Prefer brand: GE, AIA, as they are more popular
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hi Whit, here are some that you can refer to:

A-Life Med Regular from AIA
Great Medic Xtra + Extender from Great Eastern
PruDirect Med from Prudential (Online Product)
ManuHealth Elite from Manulife

Hope the links will be useful for you wink.gif
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post Dec 19 2019, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Dec 19 2019, 12:27 AM)
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hi darkdevilrey, hope the answers above help you. smile.gif

QUOTE(memorylane @ Dec 19 2019, 05:00 PM)
medical card normally cover in-patient, means only when you hospitalized, you able to claim.

if a medical card cover outpatient cancer for example, cancer treatment normally is outpatient and long term followup basis, which it does not require hospitalization. if your medical card does not cover that, then there is a risk gap you need to fill by purchasing Critical illness plan or cancer plan...

taking into consideration that, big bill medical cost -> cancer, kidney and organ transplant which easily cost up to 100K above.... it would be good if you purchase a medical card in one go with these 3 coverage....

i'm not insurance agent. this is just my humble opinion.
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hi memorylane, really very very good info there! thumbsup.gif
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post Dec 22 2019, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(ThorWP @ Dec 20 2019, 11:48 AM)
hi sifus, an agent approach me trying to sell this A Life Lady 360, saying that if my wife take up this plan for just a year, will be able to get reward, which will be more than my premium paid.

Quoted premium 18k for both conventional and takaful >coverage 300k each

Reward: 18k for both (marriage) + year cash bonus (10% - 1,800) + possible surplus from takaful.

Net could gain >10% in a year.

Would like to know if there's any catch or hidden tnc in this? anyone experience before?
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hi Thor! Basically the TnC is clearly stated in the brochure already. Guess you are not the first one who have that thought of getting a short term gain there. the only thing is if everything is in place - getting married, getting a child there after, by the 3rd year you can indeed get a short term gain there. so yea, best trick is buy during pregnancy (just by getting the Child Birth reward and Gift of Joy), so after end of 1st year policy you can claim already. Of course best is if you really need this plan. wink.gif
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post Dec 22 2019, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(ThorWP @ Dec 22 2019, 04:13 PM)
Hi CK, thanks for the clarification. I just felt weird the fact that AIA come out with this plan where they will be making major loss if a lot of ppl are taking advantage of this. On top of that, agents who sells this will be getting 65% commission from the first year itself.
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Basically, insurance companies don't depend on one product plan for profit. so some might profit more while some profit less/might have loss. The main point is to gain more new business from customers first. likely some customers might stay due to the benefits that they want. im more worried of the agents' persistancy (a gauge for the agents to make sure new business is inforced for at least 2 years). if the agents do it for money only, then some will just sell based on products' benefits. agents that wanna stay long term in the business serving their clients long term most likely wont advice clients to do so.
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post Dec 25 2019, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(coca^cola @ Dec 23 2019, 02:35 AM)
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hi coca^cola, the benefits above seems good. so long you and your agent discussed your needs, then the plan that suits you is considered as a good plan already.

QUOTE(afkwan @ Dec 23 2019, 05:29 PM)
Good day sifus

Is it true insurance cost increase by Jan 2020? For buying new plan
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hi afkwan, insurance cost will increase depends on various factors. most that we heard of is medical cost increases that causes the medical insurance cost increases too. By 1 Jan 2020, BNM want all insurance companies to standardize their cash value projection based on 2% and 5% (irregardless of any fund choices). This is also to make sure the projection is at a conservative rate.

QUOTE(chichichi @ Dec 24 2019, 05:29 PM)
Hello, asking for a friend:

40 y.o male with 2 kids age 8 and 11
looking for family plan
medical card,
rider for disability/accident/death
monthly income 10k
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Also would like to ask about disclosure..

what if you are a on and off smoker. say the time u signed up the policy, u didnt smoke. but then after you do. the you stop. then you start again. do you have to notify your agent?
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hi chichichi, are you looking for a quote on behalf of your friend? if on and off smoker, normally i will take it as a smoker. else, company will treat that as non-disclosure and future claims might have issue due to that.

QUOTE(pmaxv @ Dec 24 2019, 07:27 PM)
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hi pmaxv, what you can do is purchase a new policy with PruMillion med. for the current one you are holding, just stop payment will do.
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post Dec 25 2019, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(pmaxv @ Dec 25 2019, 07:19 PM)
So stopping payment and let the current policy run itself for one year will not trigger ROP?
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For Prudential I'm not sure though. For GE, i know it won't. Or you can do something like getting only the PruMillion med rider on the new plan. Your current one prioritizes on life insurance+CI. smile.gif
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post Dec 27 2019, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(bubs66 @ Dec 26 2019, 03:59 PM)
question is how much is enough? it could be ( most likely) 10 years down the road , it wont be enough anymore.
We cant be continuously pumping in money in at higher premium based on next birthday age.

Last policy bought in year 2011.
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QUOTE(bubs66 @ Dec 26 2019, 04:34 PM)
yes , I already did, asked me to fork out about 600-700 per month extra for life policy. which I think a bit too much for current budget. Thus, checking around for 2nd opinion first
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Hi bubs66, you can opt into getting PruWith You + PruWealth. There are 2 ways you can go about. Find out your needs then see how much you need to pay to fulfill the protection needs. if budget exceeded, your agent can work the other way round which is how much you can afford and give you as much to cover your needs.

QUOTE(Zyi @ Dec 26 2019, 07:27 PM)
Hey guys, does outpatient ultrasound scan - covered in AIA MedPlus package?
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Hi Zyi, i cant seem to find AIA MedPlus package online. when is it bought? normally for outpatient scan (except due to accident cases), it wont be covered. but you can keep the original bill, in case you need to be hospitalized or surgery needed to be done prior to that, then yes it can be claimed under pre-hospitalization diagnosis test.
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post Dec 27 2019, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(ultralightbing @ Dec 27 2019, 10:47 AM)
Hi, need suggestion on what I need next.

Have a company medical card je, was told it's insufficient. Do I need anything else? Can provide details via PM if necessary, plus also have tight budget (below 100 monthly commitment if possible)
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hi ultralightbing, what's your age and occupation? smoker or non-smoker? you can opt for few of this for tight budget solution.

Great Health Direct by Great Eastern
PruDirect Med by Prudential
AXA eMedic by AXA
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post Dec 28 2019, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(ultralightbing @ Dec 27 2019, 11:00 PM)
Hi, thanks for the response. Am 21, working in engineering industry but mostly in-office. I don't smoke. Thank you for the recommendations - will have a look-see.
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hi ultralightbing, feel free to ask here if there's anything you don't understand in those links. smile.gif
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post Jan 2 2020, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(ultralightbing @ Dec 31 2019, 10:15 AM)
Just took a look at PruDirect Med which quoted RM500 or something like that. Would this be an annual thing or will it be charged in monthly instalments?

For AXA eMedic, do you think I should get the 50k eLife Protector+ for a monthly total of 69.90?
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hi ultralightbing, the one quoted from PruDirect Med is annual premium. standalone medical plan wouldnt cost you as much as 500/month unless for senior citizen.

QUOTE(watabakiu @ Dec 31 2019, 11:16 AM)
My current ILP with GE is issued under my wife (policyholder) and me as the insuree. possible to transfer the policyholder ownership to me?
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Hi watabakiu, I will advice you to go HQ with your wife to do the absolute assignment to you.

QUOTE(b3ta @ Jan 1 2020, 06:24 PM)
Hi guys
At the moment which is the policy with the most competitive coverage for hospitalization and treatment?

Not too familiar with the landscape at the moment between the insurers
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hi b3ta, each company got its own's pros and cons. if you look at the brochures from each company, they are more or less the same. some have extra perks say AIA ones that comes with the AIA Vitality member benefits. of course with more perks comes with higher insurance charges. if you are looking at low cost of insurance charges, GE and Prudential are really low insurance charges compared to most companies.
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post Jan 3 2020, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(puputeh24 @ Jan 3 2020, 03:37 PM)
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hi puputeh, with the RM200/month premium with all the benefits above, it sounds okay to me. only thing is whether the benefits of the plan sufficient to cover her financial risk. usually 50k CI is really considered as low (of course this still need to be discussed with your sister). and yea, for medical plan, you need to pay so long you are holding the medical card. life insurance it depends on the duration (term) of coverage needed.
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post Jan 3 2020, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(harvin6 @ Jan 3 2020, 11:44 AM)
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hi harvin6, it depends on what life insurance plan type that you are referring to.

investment-linked life insurance = there is no maturity for this plan but however certain ILs have coverage term. this plan doesn't guarantee the amount that you will get back though. so it depends upon surrendering/end of term, is there any amount that you can get back.

traditional life insurance plan = this type of plan comes with maturity benefit. when it matures, yes you get a certain amount back.

term life insurance = a plan that has no cash value/surrender value. you purely pay just for the life insurance. when it reaches end of the term, you wont get any amount from the plan.
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post Jan 7 2020, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(kueks @ Jan 6 2020, 10:32 PM)
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hi kueks. it depends on what's the purpose buying this plan. just dont treat it as something that will grow your wealth by a lot. even if you keep it until end of the term, you will get an average of 3.4% p.a.. putting the possible return aside, if your purpose is to set aside an amount to be kept somewhere safe and to bypass estate distribution (can nominate your beneficiary in Great Flexi Plus), then yea this is a good plan. if your plan is to expect return as much as 6%-7%, then no, this is not the plan you will wanna go for. so yea what's the main purpose of getting the plan in the first place?
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post Jan 10 2020, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(kueks @ Jan 7 2020, 11:35 PM)
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hi kueks, then this plan is suitable for you. treat it as just keeping aside some money in somewhere you can hardly access. you can also look into money market/bond fund. it comes with minimal risk though so dont worry. even the plan you mentioned from GE comes with minimal risk too since portion of it goes to investment portion.
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post Jan 10 2020, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jan 10 2020, 06:12 PM)
Wonder Manulife has good performance in investment?
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hi jack2, hope these links can help you. smile.gif
Manulife Investment Funds (Manulife website)
Manulife Investment Fund (eUT)

QUOTE(jack2 @ Jan 10 2020, 06:58 PM)
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yes jack2, for those with limited term payment plan, most likely (not all) you will have breakeven whatever you put in (if we exclude inflation). In actual, you know that even with that breakeven amount, the value by then is already not as much as it is. Still, for certain clients, to them it is like setting aside their funds here rather than in the savings account where they can easily access the money.

QUOTE(bluewhaleram @ Jan 10 2020, 07:59 PM)
As a fresh graduate , should i buy my own insurance ? as for now parent got buy for me already
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hi bluewhaleram, perhaps you can find out what your parent got for you. then you can pick up this responsibility since you are also planning to find a career for yourself.

QUOTE(jack2 @ Jan 10 2020, 08:31 PM)
My plan is

GREATJUNIOR ADVANTAGE SERIES 2 / GREAT INCOME ADVANTAGE SERIES 2

I dunno if I shall surrender it...
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look at overall what do you currently have then only decide whether to surrender or not. cannot really determine just by looking at this plan alone. i believe you do have other insurance plans ongoing.
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post Jan 11 2020, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(ishouldntcare123 @ Jan 11 2020, 11:50 AM)
Yes I have a rider with lump sum cash payment for CI, i supposed I need more savings on top of that in case it is not sufficient. I suppose there is no medical card that cover outpatient beside cancer & kidney?
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hi, most companies cover outpatient accidental treatment, cancer treatment and kidney dialysis. Some companies do have outpatient stroke treatment (manulife), outpatient dengue treatment (allianz,prudential,manulife) and outpatient physio treatment (prudential).

you can check them out here:
ManuHealth Elite from Manulife
MediSafe Inifinite+ from Allianz
PruMillion Med from Prudential

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