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post Nov 6 2019, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(walau111 @ Nov 4 2019, 04:32 PM)
Hi, for GREAT LOVE4U, it stated "Death or TPD due to accidental cause", is it means that non-accidental death can get Higher of BSA or only accidental death can get the Higher of BSA ?

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Hi walau111. For both also can get "Higher of BSA". Only thing is Accidental cases it will pay out even from the beginning of the policy. Non-accidental only pays out "Higher of BSA" from 3rd year policy onwards.

QUOTE(jack2 @ Nov 5 2019, 10:48 AM)
I didn't ask you or anyone to help ..I am just to state the issue if someone who is relevant to provide feedback for quality improvement.

Want to feedback or no, up to them and it is none of my business.

My insurance is term insurance and it is going to muture soon.

To evaluate how good the agents or company are, we can see from the customer service quality.
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Hi jack2, this happened to your latest premium payment? For the previous premium payment, you use Jompay too?

I believe holocene can handle your case. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Shirley14 @ Nov 5 2019, 10:18 PM)
Would need advice for life insurance. Any recommendation for a healthy 24 years old woman, non smoker, programmer who just started working?
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HI Shirley14, perhaps you can talk and raise up your concerns to an agent so agent can recommend accordingly.

QUOTE(renee78 @ Nov 5 2019, 11:09 PM)
GE medical card premium has increased by almost 30% from last year. Is it the same for the other insurance companies?
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Hi renee78, some companies old medical card charges are adjusted as well.
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QUOTE(Sanj11 @ Nov 6 2019, 09:49 AM)
Hi All,

I'm planning to get a medical plan for my dad who will turn 66 soon. He does have any existing medical plan, but its an old plan and the coverage is only till the age of 70. Therefore any input/recommendations from any agents in here would be highly appreciated. I'm only interested in medical plan, not life insurance and etc.
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Hi Sanj11, still in time to apply for latest medical plan from insurance companies. Most latest medical cards cover until age 80 to age 99 (depends on your needs). So long apply asap before 70, if budget and health condition allow, take the 1million annual limit card will be good enough.

QUOTE(mikhaC @ Nov 6 2019, 03:11 PM)
Hi,
May i know is there any medical plan that accept entry age at 76 years old? tq for advise
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Hi mikhaC, medical insurance in malaysia maximum entry age is 70. So you have to use other ways to come out with medical emergency fund in this case since medical insurance isnt an available option anymore
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post Nov 11 2019, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(Mike.WBC @ Nov 10 2019, 11:41 PM)
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hi Mike.WBC, getting a standalone medical card is okay provided you have enough funds prepare to pay the premium during retirement period (60 to 80 years old). if you were to get the card as a rider in an ILP, it will cost at least RM265/month with RM1mil annual limit with no lifetime limit (up until age 80). So yea, there is no right or wrong. only a plan that you think suits you the most.

QUOTE(mnt_lim @ Nov 11 2019, 03:35 PM)
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hi mnt_lim, which agent is the one informing you that the loading cannot be remove? the agent that sold you that old policy or the new agent that you purchase from?

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post Nov 16 2019, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(mnt_lim @ Nov 15 2019, 10:45 AM)
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Before the agents conclude that, did they try to submit the letter to appeal for loading removal? I cant comment much since you already proceed with a new policy. In my opinion, best is to submit a letter and let company decide and reply. Anyway, i think its better you ignore since you have settled with the new policy. wink.gif

QUOTE(mnt_lim @ Nov 15 2019, 10:47 AM)
yes, new agent said cannot upgrade, so ask me got a new plan. the new agent cannot get commision by doing so? or the commision goes to the old agent?  curious.
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Btw you have any idea whats the name of your ILP plan (the one that new agent mentioned cannot upgrade)?
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post Nov 18 2019, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Nov 17 2019, 11:34 PM)
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Hi Rigerz, I'd done personal accident claim before for my friends. before that, what is the medical card that you are having now?
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post Nov 18 2019, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Nov 18 2019, 08:54 AM)
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hi RigerZ, don't worry it covers in-patient due to accident causes.

QUOTE(mnt_lim @ Nov 18 2019, 11:26 AM)
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hi mnt_lim, really apologize for the treatment that you got. loading can be taken off as i have a friend taking SPE2 previously. of course it is a trouble for non-servicing agent to do that for you because of the unavailability to access your policy (unless you transfer your policy to a new agent that is willing to help). so to make things simple, the non-servicing agent might as well ask you to purchase a new policy (SPE3).

QUOTE(CassMei @ Nov 18 2019, 02:37 PM)
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hi CassMei, what is the regulation mentioned by the agent? very hard to identify for 'warning signs'. trust your own instinct when you have conversation with them. for young/new agent, it all depends on whether you want to give them the opportunity to improve and see them succeed or not.

QUOTE(CassMei @ Nov 18 2019, 05:21 PM)
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hi CassMei, if i were to compare just the one you shown above, i will take AIA. Mainly because as of now most companies don't run on "annual limit booster/extender" medical card. as of now, of course there a still a few that use "annual limit booster/extender" on medical card - GE, HLA, AXA (nothing wrong with that just that some customers will feel worried how it works). I'm expecting GE to come out with their new medical card last year or latest also by this year but no idea why the company still doesnt do so (their current card is since 2014 already). Leading ones are Prudential, AIA, Manulife and Allianz.

QUOTE(tometoto @ Nov 18 2019, 06:23 PM)
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hi tometoto, this is from zurich? I'd never deal with Zurich so far. as of now most customer service are okay in my opinion.
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post Nov 19 2019, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Nov 18 2019, 09:38 PM)
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Yes, it's cover for treatment as well. smile.gif

QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Nov 18 2019, 11:38 PM)
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hi Aurora, perhaps you can consider increasing the CI amount in your life+ CI + Medical Card plan. try to compare and see by doing so is it more cost effective than buying direct. smile.gif

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post Nov 19 2019, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Nov 19 2019, 08:26 AM)
Buying direct because I only need the CI coverage to cover my mortgage repayment period (around 15 years). Without the mortgage my CI is sufficient. Increasing the CI coverage in my existing plan means I have to continue paying for it in the future when I don't need it anymore
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QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Nov 19 2019, 09:59 AM)
It's not the reducing sum covered I'm worried. It's the premium increase - a cut of it will go to my agent for 6 years? At least that's what my agent told me last time - any additional premium contribution is not 100% allocated but he gets commission from it for the first 6 years. Isn't that cost as well?
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QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Nov 19 2019, 10:18 AM)
Yeah which was what I asked in my initial questions - are there any insurance-company-direct CI only plans to recommend apart from the GE and AIA one I found above?
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Hi Aurora, perhaps you can share what is the amount of CI coverage you are looking for? And only needed for the coming 15 years?
Mind sharing your age/gender/occupation/smoker or not smoker? See whether buying a 100% allocation plan will suit your needs or not?

QUOTE(Cyberbullies @ Nov 19 2019, 08:50 PM)
Heard from one of the HLA agent that HLA no longer offers up to age of 100 since this June, any truth to that as i still see HLA official website showing 100 age limit?

Anyway, anyone knows what’s the best medical card only plan for a 68 years old elder?

Checked out AIA A-Plus Health Plan 200 seems good, anyone has better suggestions?

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Hi Cyberbullies, HLA does have medical plan that covers till 100 (or maybe 99). So yea dont worry about that.
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post Nov 19 2019, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Nov 19 2019, 09:19 PM)
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ic. now i get a better picture. in this case based on the 2 that you shortlisted, AIA will be cheaper (cost a total of RM9,580 (today's value) over 15 years) compared to GE (cost a total of RM11,478 (today's value) over 15 years). Will recommend you to take the AIA 200k CI Cover.
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post Nov 20 2019, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Nov 19 2019, 11:36 PM)
Thanks  biggrin.gif I guess CI only yearly renewable plans are rare huh? I looked at other insurance company's websites and can't find similar ones. AXA and Prudential have online cancer only coverage - where are the other 35 illnesses huh  shakehead.gif
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For your case, getting the critical illness coverage is more suitable compared to getting specific CI cover eg: cancer only.

QUOTE(RigerZ @ Nov 20 2019, 09:12 AM)
Thanks for the info! I think insurance companies should make it clearer and easier for layman to understand this aspect of their medical cover. I had to jump back & forth between the pages & definitions and still not completely sure if I'm covered for this particular event.
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It is stated in the contract document but like you said, maybe it's too "not layman" so it's not easily understandable. Anyway, hope you got your question answered. wink.gif

QUOTE(jusTinMM @ Nov 20 2019, 09:37 AM)
u bought it? its seem very cheap and coverage quite good also... im just afraid its difficult to claim since its done everything online....
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It will not be difficult to claim. If there's any hiccups during the claim process, just let me know. I can assist you on that.
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post Nov 21 2019, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(Gaza @ Nov 21 2019, 04:34 PM)
Hi, for ILP i heard next year BNM rules change and agent can only show 2% & 5% return/policy sustainability projection instead of 3% & 8% currently. Will this cause premiums to increase?
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hi Gaza. Yes it will probably cause premium to increase due to lower cash value projection. that's also why from 1st July 2019 onwards, the asset allocation increased to 60% (this actually benefits policyowners). Likely this asset allocation will increase again. as of now Manulife has 2 ILP plans which have 100% asset allocation.
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post Nov 22 2019, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Gaza @ Nov 22 2019, 12:34 PM)
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hi Gaza, how long do you want the plan to cover till? if it is till 60 years old, the Allianz plan will suit you the most because others companies must sustain till at least 70 years old. Unless you need something shorter term (20 years), then you can look for GE SmartProtect Wealth 20.

QUOTE(Whit @ Nov 22 2019, 01:42 PM)
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hi Whit, for medical insurance, will recommend you to get one standalone term medical insurance in SG even though having one in Malaysia. btw where are you residing in Malaysia?

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post Nov 23 2019, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(tometoto @ Nov 23 2019, 02:33 PM)
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Hi tometoto, AXA claims are okay. So long the correct claims document are completed, insurance companies will release claims.

QUOTE(MNet @ Nov 23 2019, 04:01 PM)
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thanks for pointing that out MNet!
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post Nov 24 2019, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(jusTinMM @ Nov 23 2019, 09:05 PM)
Where got mentioned cancer related is not included? Kindly advise. Thanks.
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hi jusTinMM, to be exact, it is included. the only thing is if the outpatient treatment is done after the allowable period after the hospital confinement, then everything is on your own already. outpatient cancer treatment and kidney dialysis are quite common for most insurance companies (others one are not limited to the days after hospital confinement)
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QUOTE(ChancellorBean @ Nov 25 2019, 11:26 PM)
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hi ChancellorBean, you can actually approach any agent other than AIA agent to look into your policy. Agents will understand the terms and benefits so yea. Do you have any friends that is an agent? can try to ask.

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hi TheRedDevil, can't really comment much without discussion and knowing much about you. a simple way is perhaps you determine how much is your monthly household + dependents expenses. then assuming with that 1 million paid out, how long can it support that family expenses? from here you decide whether 1million is sufficient or not. also what about kids education fund and loans? so long agent has discussed this with you then you are good to go wink.gif

QUOTE(mnt_lim @ Nov 27 2019, 11:28 AM)
the agent did let me sign a form to change servicing agent. i guess new plan benefits more to the agent.
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hi mnt_lim, in fact the new plan you got (SPE3) is more beneficial to you due to higher asset allocation (higher cash value compared to the old plan. so yea dont worry about your decision on getting the new plan. somemore no loading already compared to the old one.

QUOTE(mitkey06 @ Nov 27 2019, 03:25 PM)
someone who is 50 years old with stage 2 chronic kidney disease, what is the best insurance policy and if insurance company still provide the coverage ?
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hi mitkey06, the only chance is to get Great Love4U (term life insurance) from Great Eastern. It's a guaranteed issuance plan irregardless of any condition.

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post Dec 3 2019, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(mikhaC @ Nov 30 2019, 12:44 PM)
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hi mikhaC, when is the first transaction done? there is a chance to claim back that 1 month premium if it is a newly bought policy and since the policy contract document is not receive, tell them you do not agree since you do not know anything about it and haven't agree on the terms in the policy contract (since yet to receive). did you receive any telemarketer from AIA (or bank eg: Public, Citi etc.) lately?

QUOTE(blibala @ Dec 1 2019, 08:03 PM)
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hi blibala, since the cyst was known before the policy was bought, then yes it is best to declare it to avoid non-disclosure issue during future claims.
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post Dec 3 2019, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(mikhaC @ Dec 3 2019, 09:10 AM)
hi ckdenion,
I went to the AiA branch in ipoh and check on the issued and they can't find my name or ic on any policy. They said is possible the auto debit to other people account and they have to check with HQ. They said when the agent submitted the copy of the debit card number to hq, they mistakenly key wrongly the number. I don't believed that is possible to key in wrong debit number and they told me is the second case in ipoh. Anyway, i told them i will make a police report if my money is not refunded by this week.

Have you come across any of this before?
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Morning mikhaC, yes there is this possibility whereby the wrong number is used. You ask AIA and see whether they release an official letter to state that there is no policy details of you. At least with that supporting statement letter, you can ask bank to not approve any autodebit transaction to AIA. What's AIA reply to you when you ask for refund?
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post Dec 6 2019, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Dec 6 2019, 10:57 AM)
any chance to do medical check up (blood/urine/etc) using the medical card, with admission?
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hi spreeeee. highly unlikely because it is not a valid reason for admission. Company will decline as well if the admission is not valid and if things can be done without admission.

QUOTE(tonytyk @ Dec 6 2019, 12:01 PM)
I don’t mind paying for the rider so long as I can maintain my current prulink policy. Any prudential insurance expert here can confirm what rider to purchase to avoid coinsure and extend age limit from 80 to 100?
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hi tonytyk, the only latest medical rider that can be attached to your Prulink is the PruValue Med. It covers up to 100 years old, no co-ins but comes with RM300 deductible.
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post Dec 7 2019, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Dec 7 2019, 10:29 AM)
I have pruvalue med with prulink now, but the policy that I have covers up to 80 years old only and coinsure will apply after the claim up to RM1 million. Do you know any rider to extend the age coverage and also without coinsure after RM1 million claim?
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hi tony, you can look for the new PruMillion Med. you have to apply for the new ILP PruWith You to get this new medical card rider.
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QUOTE(cococonutseller @ Dec 8 2019, 12:20 AM)
Asking abt General insurance - hopefully someone can help me.
Guys.. just asking..

why 2018 insurance lagenda

P&O - insured 3500 + 5K PA = RM216

In 2019 switched to BerjayaSompo

Insured RM3000 + 5K PA = RM220??

Did insurance premium gets revised or I've been con?
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hi cococonutseller, im not familiar with GI, i guess it is not being con so dont worry about it. any other quote you got from other company asides from BerjayaSompo?

QUOTE(tonytyk @ Dec 8 2019, 06:21 AM)
so I can’t make use of my existing prulink policy by adding rider but to purchase a completely new policy and forgo my existing policy?
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hi tonytyk, AFAIK yea you have to forgo your existing one and buy the newly released ILP PruWith You to be able to get the new PruMillion Med medical rider. Unless you received some upgrade offer to PruMillion Med which I think they don't if not mistaken. To state the fact, insurance companies also want new business, thats how they get new business. of course also the prulink you have is kinda old and the plan structure doesnt follow the new BNM ILP guideline. I think it is good to get the new PruMillion Med, getting the new ILP is not that bad also because of the higher premium allocation rate.

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