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 Insurance Talk V5!, Anything and everything about Insurance

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lifebalance
post Jun 9 2019, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jun 9 2019, 12:05 PM)
I guess that's important for those who are self employed/freelancer and not so much for a salaried worker?
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You can say so, there will be loss of income if the person is unable to work for a period of time if he's managing his own business which requires his presence in order for the business to run.

However not all type of businesses are affected if he has capable employees that can help to keep the operation running temporarily.

Again, this is more of an extra option for loss of income. Do remember that cost of insurance still applies for getting the benefit and it may add up to the total premium payable on top of your existing policy benefit.
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post Jun 9 2019, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(SureshG @ Jun 7 2019, 07:02 PM)
Any GE agents here? I have a policy for my mother in law that expires at the age of 70. She's now 60. I'm looking for options to see if I can upgrade to 100 years old.
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Is she retiree? I can help you.
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post Jun 9 2019, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jun 9 2019, 11:39 AM)
that's optional if you need the extra income per day for every day you stayed in the hospital
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jun 9 2019, 12:24 PM)
You can say so, there will be loss of income if the person is unable to work for a period of time if he's managing his own business which requires his presence in order for the business to run.

However not all type of businesses are affected if he has capable employees that can help to keep the operation running temporarily.

Again, this is more of an extra option for loss of income. Do remember that cost of insurance still applies for getting the benefit and it may add up to the total premium payable on top of your existing policy benefit.
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I'm just calculating whether it's better to add on some riders to the insurance to reach the amount for tax relief of 3000 per year. As of now it's below the monthly amount to reach 250. Is it more worth persay?
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post Jun 9 2019, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(SwarmTroll @ Jun 9 2019, 04:21 PM)
I'm just calculating whether it's better to add on some riders to the insurance to reach the amount for tax relief of 3000 per year. As of now it's below the monthly amount to reach 250. Is it more worth persay?
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You do get the benefit hence the worth is there. But whether you need it is another question 🤓

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post Jun 9 2019, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Jun 9 2019, 05:29 PM)
You do get the benefit hence the worth is there. But whether you need it is another question 🤓

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Did some calculations, it's RM4 per month for every RM50 of hospital income per day. Tbh, I might not really need it because I am a salaried worker unless if I lose my job. Then again, it can reduce taxable income.
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QUOTE(SwarmTroll @ Jun 9 2019, 06:52 PM)
Did some calculations, it's RM4 per month for every RM50 of hospital income per day. Tbh, I might not really need it because I am a salaried worker unless if I lose my job. Then again, it can reduce taxable income.
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You can opt to increase your other benefits instead then 🤓
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post Jun 9 2019, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(SwarmTroll @ Jun 9 2019, 06:52 PM)
Did some calculations, it's RM4 per month for every RM50 of hospital income per day. Tbh, I might not really need it because I am a salaried worker unless if I lose my job. Then again, it can reduce taxable income.
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just need confirmation....the amount of money paid for this hospital income riders can be tax deductible too?
I thought the actual net cost of medical and life insurance are tax deductible...
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QUOTE(SureshG @ Jun 7 2019, 05:02 PM)
Any GE agents here? I have a policy for my mother in law that expires at the age of 70. She's now 60. I'm looking for options to see if I can upgrade to 100 years old.
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googled and found this....hope it can provide some added info...

Extension of Medical Rider Coverage up to Age 99 Years

What is this extension about?
It is part of our continuous effort to enhance customer’s medical coverage by extending the coverage of selected Investment-Linked medical rider from age 80 to age 99 years (next birthday).
The campaign period is from 01 August 2018 to 31 May 2020 (both dates inclusive).

Would it be a new medical rider(s) in my policy?
Yes, the extension of Medical Rider(s) Coverage is by way of inclusion of the rider(s) listed as below, if applicable:
SmartMedic 99 (SM-99)
SmartMedic Xtra (SMX-99)
Smart Extender Max (SEM-99)
Smart Extender(SE-99)
SmartMedic Enhancer (SME-99)

Am I eligible for this option?
You are eligible to apply for this option if you fulfilled the conditions below:
1) Your investment-linked policy has any of the medical rider(s) mentioned below:
SmartMedic (SM)
SmartMedic Xtra (SMX)
Smart Extender Max (SEM)
Smart Extender (SE)
Smart Medic Enhance (SME)

2) Your policy is not under ‘Potential Lapse Date’ status

3) There is no indebtedness in the policy

4) The Life Assured is age 69 years or less (next birthday) during the validity period

How do I know my policy fulfilled the conditions?
https://www.greateasternlife.com/my/en/pers...tions.html#cs99

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QUOTE(SwarmTroll @ Jun 9 2019, 04:21 PM)
I'm just calculating whether it's better to add on some riders to the insurance to reach the amount for tax relief of 3000 per year. As of now it's below the monthly amount to reach 250. Is it more worth persay?
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You can use the extra premium budget to put into other benefit since it doesn’t benefit you much
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post Jun 10 2019, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Jun 9 2019, 07:00 PM)
You can opt to increase your other benefits instead then 🤓
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jun 10 2019, 12:07 AM)
You can use the extra premium budget to put into other benefit since it doesn’t benefit you much
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I have been looking at other benefits. I have already selected R&B 300, is it advisable to increase R&B compared to taking other riders?

Other riders I was looking at:
1) Premium Waiver, but that waiver only kicks in when you get end stage CI or permanent disability.

2) Hospital Income, income everyday as long as you are hospitalised (to a certain limit of course), which if set to RM300 per day covers the 300 deductible already on the first day. The cost for having zero deductible is about the same as RM300 hospital income.

3) Critical Illness riders, my family has no history of critical illnesses so I am not sure how I should decide with this tbh. There is early stage which cost more compared to the regular one with late stage.

4) GenNext, interesting one, combines financial support (like hospital income but needs minimum 30 days of hospitalisation) and lump sump payment for critical illness/disablement, this one has a high premium if I did not remember wrongly.

Any advice/riders recommended?
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post Jun 10 2019, 03:39 PM

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May I know how much is the premium of pure medical insurance (no ILP) for Male, 34 y/o, non smoker, annual limit 200k-300k, no lifetime limit.

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post Jun 10 2019, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(lonelyPotato @ Jun 10 2019, 03:39 PM)
May I know how much is the premium of pure medical insurance (no ILP) for Male, 34 y/o, non smoker, annual limit 200k-300k, no annual limit.
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Hi,

922/yearly, sorry forgot to add on, this is for 1 mil coverage with no lifetime limit

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post Jun 10 2019, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(soul_fighter @ Jun 5 2019, 02:36 PM)
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PROS: you do not need to worry about your insurance premium should TPD/CI occurs. (you can also plan this the other way round which is factored all insurance premium that you are paying, should TPD/CI occurs, the payout can also covers your insurance premiums for x number of years - need proper financial planning for this).

CONS: since 'waiver of premium' is a benefit, you are actually paying extra for it (won't cost you a bomb though).

QUOTE(SureshG @ Jun 7 2019, 05:02 PM)
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feel free to pm me if you need any help smile.gif if the plan is too old, the only option is to purchase new plan that provide medical card up to 99 years old. just to be frank, so long can plan until 85 years old is good enough because the premium to sustain until 99 years old costs a lot.

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replied in bolded blue wink.gif

QUOTE(SwarmTroll @ Jun 9 2019, 04:21 PM)
I'm just calculating whether it's better to add on some riders to the insurance to reach the amount for tax relief of 3000 per year. As of now it's below the monthly amount to reach 250. Is it more worth persay?
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do take note that by paying RM3000 yearly doesnt mean that you will be entitled to claim medical insurance tax relief of 3000. a small portion of the 3000 will go to life insurance and other benefits say TPD waiver of premium. for YA2019 tax relief, you can also look into 3000 life insurance tax relief too.

QUOTE(lonelyPotato @ Jun 10 2019, 03:39 PM)
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what's your occupation? assuming you occupation is a Class 1, premium will be less than 1k for a million limit.

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post Jun 11 2019, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(lonelyPotato @ Jun 10 2019, 04:39 PM)
May I know how much is the premium of pure medical insurance (no ILP) for Male, 34 y/o, non smoker, annual limit 200k-300k, no lifetime limit.
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Yearly premium ( 26-35 years old) : RM1,574.30

Annual : UNLIMITED
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Lifetime : UNLIMITED
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Room : RM225
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post Jun 12 2019, 02:25 PM

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Hi guy, wanna to ask you...

Do you heard about SunLife Insurance?
SunLife Insurance Malaysia is under which bank?

For example,

Etiqa > Maybank


Thanks a lot.
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post Jun 12 2019, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(JuneResources @ Jun 12 2019, 02:25 PM)
Hi guy, wanna to ask you...

Do you heard about SunLife Insurance?
SunLife Insurance Malaysia is under which bank?

For example,

Etiqa > Maybank
Thanks a lot.
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post Jun 12 2019, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(JuneResources @ Jun 12 2019, 02:25 PM)
Hi guy, wanna to ask you...

Do you heard about SunLife Insurance?
SunLife Insurance Malaysia is under which bank?

For example,

Etiqa > Maybank
Thanks a lot.
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while waiting for responses....I googled and found this....

Sun Life Malaysia
Sun Life Malaysia (Sun Life Malaysia Assurance Berhad and Sun Life Malaysia Takaful Berhad) is a joint venture by Sun Life Financial Inc. and Avicennia Capital Sdn. Bhd., a fully owned Khazanah Nasional Berhad investment holding company, specialising in Insurance and Family Takaful.
https://www.sunlifemalaysia.com/about-us/wh...e-are/overview/

Some of our key business partners include:
CIMB Bank
CIMB Islamic Bank
CIMB-Principal Asset Management
U Mobile Sdn Bhd
Bank Rakyat
Bank Persatuan
Al Rajhi Bank
Kuwait Finance House
Malaysia Building Society Berhad
Khazanah-linked companies & affiliates such as Telekom, Celcom and many more
https://www.sunlifemalaysia.com/about-us/our-partnership/
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jun 12 2019, 02:25 PM)
CIMB
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If I'm not wrong, CIMB mainly sub insurance by Berjaya Sompo.

If not, then Berjaya Sompo is under which bank? unsure.gif


QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 12 2019, 02:30 PM)
while waiting for responses....I googled and found this....

Sun Life Malaysia
Sun Life Malaysia (Sun Life Malaysia Assurance Berhad and Sun Life Malaysia Takaful Berhad) is a joint venture by Sun Life Financial Inc. and Avicennia Capital Sdn. Bhd., a fully owned Khazanah Nasional Berhad investment holding company, specialising in Insurance and Family Takaful.
https://www.sunlifemalaysia.com/about-us/wh...e-are/overview/

Some of our key business partners include:
CIMB Bank
CIMB Islamic Bank
CIMB-Principal Asset Management
U Mobile Sdn Bhd
Bank Rakyat
Bank Persatuan
Al Rajhi Bank
Kuwait Finance House
Malaysia Building Society Berhad
Khazanah-linked companies & affiliates such as Telekom, Celcom and many more
https://www.sunlifemalaysia.com/about-us/our-partnership/
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Then main consider as under "Khazanah Nasional Berhad", am I right?

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post Jun 12 2019, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(JuneResources @ Jun 12 2019, 02:52 PM)
If I'm not wrong, CIMB mainly sub insurance by Berjaya Sompo.

If not, then Berjaya Sompo is under which bank? unsure.gif

googled and found this too....per attached image

https://www.berjayasompo.com.my/_uploads/fi...0Dec%202018.pdf

Then main consider as under "Khazanah Nasional Berhad", am I right?
i think the legal buck stops at Avicennia Capital Sdn. Bhd...eventhought it is a fully owned Khazanah Nasional Berhad investment holding company,
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 12 2019, 03:28 PM)

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Ok, thanks for your information.

I just came across from CIMB for their products & services.
Then about for general insurance and life insurance, CIMB will inform that access to another website (which is Berjaya Sompo)..

So I first though there is a some relationship between cimb and berjaya sompo.. Same as the Maybank has some relationship with etiqa.


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