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Hobbez
post Dec 17 2018, 05:24 PM

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I hardly login to my Cimbclicks and last time was maybe 2 months ago.

Should I do anything? Not much money there in my account and I don't use their debit card for anything.

Nobody knows about it.

PS: I never do any kind of banking with phone. Ever.

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post Dec 17 2018, 05:26 PM

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Cimb is local Malaysia punya bank....this kind of story does not surprise me in the least. Long ago, I heard bad stuff about Cimb ardy.

Like got bank employees curi money.....
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post Dec 17 2018, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(kraka @ Dec 17 2018, 05:49 PM)
They can claim to fixit but I have withdrawn my money from atm and will change my bank. Also saw long lines at most Cimb ATMs.
The way cimb handled the whole issue is pathetic. Once a reputation is gone very hard for people to regain that trust.
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Who bodo enough to trust Cimb, means tak banyak akal.

Cimb is local bank, and is a ________-run bank, guaranteed the quality is lower.
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post Dec 17 2018, 06:02 PM

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I don't even give a sh_t about this DuitNow thingy....never bother to register. Just ignore.

Never keep a lot of money at any place and use very few credit cards,

Try to use Paypal for transactions without key in your CC at any website.

Don't do phone banking or transactions. So many apps can spy on you.

I always try to pay with cash. Even if less convenient.

Simple common sense.....
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post Dec 17 2018, 11:04 PM

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Ummm, I treid to change my password at CimbClicks but keep getting error saying invalid user ID...

Calling their 1300 helpline no answer and it charges you becos is 1300.
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post Dec 17 2018, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(jesserider223 @ Dec 17 2018, 11:08 PM)
hey, try key in only front first 8 characters of your password

this was what i did

and reply back here later
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Key in the first 8 characters of the old or new password that you wanna change to?
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post Dec 18 2018, 12:42 AM

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Managed to change my password ONLY because I keyed in the 1st 8 characters of my password (which CIMB did not bother to tell me). Thanks to one /k user....

Just imagine if you used weak characters for your 1st 8 digits, then you are liable to be hacked.

That is the purpose of the Recaptcha, to stop brute force attacks. It is a stop gap measure by CIMB after news broke out.

Now it all makes sense to me.

A typical low ass quality Malaysia bank....

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post Dec 18 2018, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(Mummy Shark @ Dec 18 2018, 01:11 AM)
it did filter against rampant brute force, didn't it?
still want to complain not up to "bank" standard....

those that complain of "expecting better technology to diff bots and humans" really topkek. this security field is fluid.
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Got any good quality bank that use Google Recaptcha? If got, show me.

And why did you not quote the earlier part of my post?

About the security hole in the 8 character password limit?

And why CIMB did not inform me and instead keep saying my ID is invalid? Which is a blatant lie? And when I try to call them, they waste my phone call becos it is 1300 and not answer? (Too many angry phone calls issit?).

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post Dec 18 2018, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(Mummy Shark @ Dec 18 2018, 01:48 AM)
why the spin?
you yourself admitted of realising why the captcha is there for.

regardless whether a banking site or else, captcha does not have to be 100% foolproof. it was never designed to. it's just to filter some of the bad traffic, so that other security measures can dedicate their processing and logic on others that slipped through. that is the point, while /k-tards keep on harping its "uselessness".
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No spin. It is only admittance by Cimb themselves, that they have a problem.

Indirect way to admit what a big security hole they have. And that is a sign of a lousy bank.

Show me another bank that is forced to use Google Recaptcha or even ANY recaptcha? Takda?

Get my point?

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post Dec 18 2018, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(Mummy Shark @ Dec 18 2018, 02:13 AM)
you yourself said captcha is meant to stop brute force attack. you yourself said cimb implemented it. and then spin WHEN I POINTED OUT THAT you yourself had realised why it is there on cimb site.

apadaaa..... spin minta another sample pulak. it still does not deny that you admitted why it's there on cimb site.
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Look, you have a problem with comprehension. I KNOW what the captcha is for, but it should NOT be there under normal circumstances.

Read this again -----> If Cimb did not have such a security problem they do NOT need to implement ANY captcha.

So why they have such a problem in the first place? Sila jawab.

You won't. Because you must be working for CIMB in some capacity am I right? That is why you are defending them to the end and cherry picking my posts.

Sudah la...dah lewat ni....how much CIMB paying you?
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post Dec 18 2018, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(Floria Scarlet @ Dec 18 2018, 02:26 AM)
can we just get like the actual fact of what caused the hack and not like some talks about the recaptcha thing?

Is this some kind of hoax from a stolen account information or is the website actually hacked? I logged into my account yesterday just fine and no recaptcha thing was there.
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Only a few accounts were hacked, but my guess is CIMB is doing damage control when the news break out about how insecure is their accounts. For me, the main problem that I found out is that their passwords only accept the first 8 characters. Which I find out the hard way when I tried to change my password and failed. It keep lying to me and said my ID is invalid (but I could login with that ID).

Let's say your password is 12345678H%&*GGhklp

Anyone can login with your password if they just type in 12345678

If you were stupid enough to put this kind of password, then sorry la....

But CIMB hopes nobody that stupid, so their damage control is to implement that Google Recaptcha to stop brute force password attempts.

And it is easy with bots these days. There are hackers and spammers selling brute force software that they claim can crack most kinds of passwords.

Knowing the length of a password is a big step to cracking it.



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post Dec 18 2018, 02:48 AM

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QUOTE(Floria Scarlet @ Dec 18 2018, 02:43 AM)
I see, thanks for the clarification.
Are the passwords still limited at 8 chars? Have they changed it?
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Yes, they changed this "rule" on 18 November if I'm not mistaken. But of course, they cannot inform anyone of this. Otherwise, people kutuk them kau kau.

So they changed this secretly.

And that is why I could NOT change my password just now. Thanks to a /k tard he told me to just key in the first 8 characters. Then only I can change it. Otherwise keep trying and fail. Cannot understand why and preparing to go to their branch tomorrow already and cancel my other appointments....

Now the password length is up to 20 characters if not mistaken.

CIMB just not admitting all this. It looks bad on them.

And it is bad.

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post Dec 18 2018, 02:51 AM

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QUOTE(Mummy Shark @ Dec 18 2018, 02:48 AM)
adoi. you really have ...
you said A, you said B. I pointed out you said A and you said B. then you spin ask me to bring in C in order to deny my pointing out that you said A and you said B.

it was never and issue, except, you took offence that I used your statement to highlight why I think the general public is faulty in mob-lynching usage of captcha.

thus, since you are adamant, yes, CIMB have issues. which internet banking have not?  there is no denying that. CIMB decided to react to it. so does Amazon, Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, newspapers, blogs, forums, and many others that also use captcha. does it make their standing any lesser or higher in your eyes for - in your own description - for admitting they have problems?

lel, just because I point this and that, I thus work for CIMB. ah yes, frame it on the wall lah.  i'm also mary poppins, y'all.
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Thanks. I don't have to waste any more time to argue with you. Ofc you must be working for CIMB in some capacity la.....

Obviously.

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post Dec 18 2018, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Dec 18 2018, 01:25 PM)
hahaha not surprised- gomen dept  smile.gif  CIMB is a bank ler. If true they store password in original form then BNM should withdraw their licence IMHO. For that matter doesn't BNM do IT system audit on licensed FI's ?
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I doubt it. Local bank wholly owned by bumiputra, means they get a "special" card. If they are ever in trouble, govt will bail them out and protek them instead.

 

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