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post Dec 14 2018, 02:50 AM, updated 8y ago

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Netflix Unveils Saint Seiya Remake, Fans Aren’t Happy



Netflix have released a trailer for their upcoming CG adaption of classic anime Saint Seiya: Knights of the Zodiac coming to the platform in Summer 2019. To say the reception has not shined bright is an understatement.

As of this time of writing, the trailer has been viewed 282,269 times, with 5,700 upvotes and 10,778 downvotes (a ratio of almost 1:2). The Latin American trailer fairs even worse, with 469,748 views, 5410 upvotes and 21,192 downvotes (almost a ratio of 1:4).

Part of the reason may be due to one of the character’s genders being changed- Andromeda Shun- and that some names were changed as well. Similar occurred with Netflix’s Voltron in 2018, where a character’s gender was changed and another was made gay.

The new Saint Seiya‘s producer Eugene Son (who has written for cartoons such as Avengers Assemble, Star Wars Resistance, Generator Rex, 2018’s Voltron, and Ultimate Spider-Man) took to Twitter to deal with the reaction. He has since deleted his Twitter account and the archive can be found here.

Dealing with the “smaller questions” first, he states the names were changed before he came on board. “There was some question why characters from China, Europe, South America all have Japanese names. So between Toei and Kurumada, they chose to update a few of the character names.”

He then states why Andromeda was changed from a man to a woman. “This one is all on me” Son posted. He began by claiming the show’s creators wished to change very little, and how the original anime holds up well even thirty years later.

“The only thing that concerned me: the Bronze Knights with Pegasus Seiya are all dudes ranting.gif . Now the series has always had fantastic strong dynamic female characters, and it reflects in the tremendous number of women who are passionate about the Seiya manga and anime-

But thirty years ago, a group of guys battling to save the world with no girls around was no big deal. That was the default then. Today the world has changed. Guys and girls working side-by-side is the default. We’re USED to seeing it. Right or wrong, the audience could interpret an all-male team as us trying to make a STATEMENT about something
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And maybe 30 years ago seeing women punching and kicking each other wasn’t a thing. But today? Not the same. […] There are plenty of female characters in the anime and manga. Marin and Shaina are both incredible. But they’re both powerful already – no one wants to see them turned into Bronze Knights-

Do we take an existing character like Sienna (formerly named Saori) or Shunrei or Miho, give them powers, and turn them into our April O’Neil? Or do we create a new female character and have her join the team?

Maybe…? But I didn’t want to create a new female character that would stick out and be obvious – especially if she was not created naturally and has no character/personality except “to be the girl.” shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif

Then we discussed Andromeda. Everyone agrees – an AWESOME character.
So what if the original was “Andromeda Shun” and our interpretation was “Andromeda Shaun”? The more we developed it, the more we saw the potential. A great character with a great look.”

Son went on to explain how the core concepts of the character would not change. “She uses her chains to defend herself and her friends – which she learned from her protective brother who taught her how to fight.“

Son continues stating he knew that it would be controversial, but rather than see it as changing a character, he feels it is a new interpretation. However, he holds no malice to those who do not like it.

“If you think this is weird and don’t like it, I get it. Even within Toei, there was plenty of “Are you SURE about this?” A lot of hardcore fans of Shun really love Shun. But I hope you’ll be willing to check it out when it’s available and see what you think.

I know some (many?) of you already hate it. Even in Toei, Andromeda was their favorite character and this feels like a slap in the face.
So if you hate it (and me) and say “This new series is NOT for me” – no problem. I understand. I appreciate your passion for Seiya.”

Son compares the change to Starbuck being a woman in 2004’s Battlestar Galactica while in the original 1978 series she was a man.

“When I was a kid, I dug the original Battlestar Galactica. When they changed Starbuck to a woman, I thought it was weird. But I watched and loved the new BSG. A terrific character and a new interpretation.

Anyways, that’s what I was thinking when I suggested it. That’s why we did it. And I think the new series will be a lot of fun once we talk about the change to Andromeda.

Hopefully you’ll check out the series when it comes to Netflix in 2019.
But again, if you aren’t interested and it’s just a big NOPE, then I totally understand.” doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

SOS

seriously, Niggaflix? all male team sexist and ploblematic? taking a beloved character for who he is and what he stood for and turned him from a sensitive girly boy into a sassy STRONK WAHMEN just to make a statement?

yes, Andromeda Shun is a really sensitive emotional dude who hates fighting, but dude, he can sure as hell kick ass when a poke turns to push, and when push turns to shove, and when shove turns to a cosmically charged fist coming straignt at your face. doh.gif


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post Dec 14 2018, 02:57 AM

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And why shun? Do like jepunis, semua potong gugu lar.



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post Dec 14 2018, 03:28 AM

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Nostalgia and true to the source?

The western filmmakers doesn't care about that and all they care is to turn every adaptation they made into an LGBT or SJW propaganda.

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post Dec 14 2018, 05:32 AM

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ahahaha. Let see when they will genderbend luffy.

then again, there are good thing about this. They will be pissing yaoi fangirl. biggrin.gif

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post Dec 14 2018, 05:42 AM

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post Dec 14 2018, 05:43 AM

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post Dec 14 2018, 06:18 AM

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QUOTE(MRaef @ Dec 14 2018, 03:28 AM)
Nostalgia and true to the source?

The western filmmakers doesn't care about that and all they care is to turn every adaptation they made into an LGBT or SJW propaganda.
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THIS !!!!
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post Dec 14 2018, 06:27 AM

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americunt and their shinenigans.
they keep ruining original japan anime/manga etc...
remember Dragonball?
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post Dec 14 2018, 06:32 AM

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I got nothing against these lgbt or femanist movement... but they are trying to turn every shit into an issue, and ppl are getting annoyed
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post Dec 14 2018, 06:46 AM

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post Dec 14 2018, 06:51 AM

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The 3d look bad....
Look stiff....
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post Dec 14 2018, 07:17 AM

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Fuck sake....next gonna make James bond a gay
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post Dec 14 2018, 07:25 AM

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3D animation often looks clunky...better stick to 2D anime
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post Dec 14 2018, 07:27 AM

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That’s why America needs trump
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post Dec 14 2018, 07:31 AM

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THIS IS NOT SAINT SEIYA
ITS SOCIAL SEIYA
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post Dec 14 2018, 07:44 AM

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Is ok fans of Saint Seiya like me doesnt really like the CG movie that comes out few years ago made by Japanese? Want to watch this anime get back to the root please.
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post Dec 14 2018, 08:09 AM

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Brb, going to thumb downside the YouTube video.
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post Dec 14 2018, 08:21 AM

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where is lost canvas last chapter!!!!
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post Dec 14 2018, 08:25 AM

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huh?....the fark they fight helicopter n tank??!!.....LOL
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SEIYA: PEGASUS RYUSEI KEN
OPPONENT: I HAD NULLIFY UR ATTACK, U CANT USE THE SAME TRICK ON ME AGAIN
SEIYA: PEGASUS RYUSEI KEN
OPPONENT: NANI, THIS COSMO... ARGHHHH

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