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Drian
post Dec 13 2018, 10:40 AM

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I just want to know who is right or wrong.


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post Dec 13 2018, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 13 2018, 10:36 AM)
You do know that "them" (for commercial traffic) is actually only our FireFly's turboprop planes, right?

And you do know that hundreds of flights between Changi and Europe fly over peninsula Malaysia, right?
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Dangling a carrot.

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post Dec 13 2018, 10:41 AM

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they continue to bising we should take back malaysia part of changi airspace also
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post Dec 13 2018, 10:44 AM

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Let singkipor planes approach from thier airspace. Why fly over Pasir Gudang?

My Vietnam Saigon office is directly under the Tan Son Nhat approach flight path a few hundred metres from the runway....and they fly over at only a few hundred feet. Rattles the windows each time a plane comes in for landing.

Local residents may be used ton it, but I still get unnerved seeing how close the aircraft is overhead
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post Dec 13 2018, 10:44 AM

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Can we say the water in river suddenly dry up when we close our tap to SG ???

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SG if u need water, pls inform Msia accordingly...

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post Dec 13 2018, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Dec 13 2018, 10:34 AM)
Hot air balloon festival at pasir gudang
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Flying lantern festival...........
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post Dec 13 2018, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(otakotak @ Dec 13 2018, 10:24 AM)
put toll in the air..
oh.. wai

QUOTE(amidamaru @ Dec 13 2018, 10:26 AM)
Still using malaysia airspace. Dont gibap our MOT

QUOTE(pineapplegrenade @ Dec 13 2018, 10:29 AM)
Nah. No deal. Use their own airspace.

Uhh, but putting aside this landing issue. Basically ALL flights from SG to middle east and Europe fly over peninsula Malaysia (ie they use Malaysia airspace). Malaysia charges overflight fees to the airlines so its not like we get nothing out of it.
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post Dec 13 2018, 10:45 AM

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They still wanna screw us after the water deal.
Go to hell la sg
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post Dec 13 2018, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(arturo_bandini @ Dec 13 2018, 10:38 AM)
just put Surface to Air Missile (SAM) units at pasir gudang and warn all airlines that we will protect our airspace at all cost - everybody will kecut bola and abandon that stupid airport -> win
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Say every few days have AA training exercise, fireworks event, hot air balloon, etc. at Pasir Gudang, impose lower flight limit 5,000 ft over ILS 21 zone.

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post Dec 13 2018, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(arturo_bandini @ Dec 13 2018, 10:38 AM)
just put Surface to Air Missile (SAM) units at pasir gudang and warn all airlines that we will protect our airspace at all cost - everybody will kecut bola and abandon that stupid airport -> win
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Sinkie already one step ahead, they already move Msia Firefly to that airport, so basically you will be shooting Msia planes.........
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post Dec 13 2018, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Dec 13 2018, 10:40 AM)
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This is PURELY business
nothing to do with malindo or fireflyz which got affected - stupid stakes being used here, but they can always operate via changi without any issue


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post Dec 13 2018, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 13 2018, 10:36 AM)
You do know that "them" (for commercial traffic) is actually only our FireFly's turboprop planes, right?

And you do know that hundreds of flights between Changi and Europe fly over peninsula Malaysia, right?
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Overflying at 35,000ft is not the same as coming in for landing at 1000ft.

Firefly can still land there without using the planed ILS route.
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post Dec 13 2018, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 13 2018, 10:18 AM)
So who correct now, Anthony Loke or Singapork MoT?

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/expla..._13122018_today

Basically SG said that all along:
- Flight path doesn't affect any existing structure also, and
- Malaysia bagi tau je whenever got plans to build higher structures then SG will adjust the flight path accordingly.
Additional points:
- Edge of pasir gudang is 2.5km from edge of runway, which implies safety height buffer of 78.1m.
- Current ILS glide slope is 3.5deg. In comparison, London City Airport glide slope is 5.5deg.
- If Singapork increase glide slope to 5.5deg then height buffer is 123.0m @ 2.5km, 148.1m @ 3km, and 296.3m @ 6km
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if wanna build a mia burj khalifa right at the edge of pasir gudang how?
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post Dec 13 2018, 10:50 AM

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First of all, Once this ILS was agreed and implemented, Malaysia will need TO GET APPROVAL from SINGAPORE and ICAA before building any tall structure in future.

Becase of legal implication which previous government fail to look at, this is why now Malaysia is hesitate to go further.


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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Dec 13 2018, 10:44 AM)
Let singkipor planes approach from thier airspace. Why fly over Pasir Gudang?

My Vietnam Saigon office is directly under the Tan Son Nhat approach flight path a few hundred metres from the runway....and they fly over at only a few hundred feet. Rattles the windows each time a plane comes in for landing.

Few hundred metres a bit different than the 2.5 km distance between seletar and pasir gudang. If you see the 3.5deg ILS guide slope, at this 2.5km mark planes will be generally 150m above, which isn't that bad.

Furthermore, airplanes are most efficient when taking off and landing against the wind. Forcing seletar to use only a single direction makes planes less efficient half the year when they have to land or take off with the wind.

Finally, planes coming from the North need to fly a bigger loop to the south before landing from the south.

And since Firefly is the only airline planned for seletar, we kecoh kecoh kecoh in the end our own airline is the one that suffers.

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post Dec 13 2018, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(galkelly @ Dec 13 2018, 10:45 AM)
They still wanna screw us after the water deal.
Go to hell la sg

But they also bent over backwards to help us postpone HSR. Just as we are (probably) fully within our rights to ask SG to GTFO with their seletar ILS, they were also fully within their rights to ask us pay that 500m or whatever it was compensation. No?
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if they just adjust flight plan then why need the ILS in the first place? isn't the purpose of ILS is for easy landing and clear the airspace of any obstacles? if so then there sure going to be restrictions on msia side, if msia side got restriction then sure got dispute one.
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whatever height la..if the owner of the airspace don't allow u to go through their airspace, then don't la..apa bodoh sombong sangat ni
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QUOTE(bananajoe @ Dec 13 2018, 10:50 AM)
First of all, Once this ILS was agreed and implemented, Malaysia will need TO GET APPROVAL from SINGAPORE and ICAA before building any tall structure in future.

I think that's an interesting and key point, and one which I'm not sure what the reality is. Will we NEED to get approval, or will we just need to inform them then they have to ownself no choice increase the glide angle to compensate?

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