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TSmakaveli
post Dec 10 2018, 11:32 AM, updated 6y ago

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Guys ,any workshop around Selangor & Kl able to solve this issue on my car ?
I went to tyre shop near my place they had special tool , they hammer it and try to twist turn within 2 minutes say cannot take out .

At the moment , I'm trying my lvl best to avoid oxy welding it .

here below picture for reference .

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post Dec 10 2018, 11:36 AM

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last time, they weld a nut socket to the leftover of the nut to open it, have to waste 1 nut socket

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post Dec 10 2018, 11:40 AM

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kena drill/welding bai..last time lug aku snap...bwk pi kedai tayar...dia kata nk cepat drill atau welding utk dia bukak...takder cara lain...
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post Dec 10 2018, 11:45 AM

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looks like u can barely even weld it

how about this

soak it with penetrant oil, such as wd40 for 1/2 day, then try to turn it by chiseling the side to turn it


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post Dec 10 2018, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(afoka @ Dec 10 2018, 11:40 AM)
kena drill/welding bai..last time lug aku snap...bwk pi kedai tayar...dia kata nk cepat drill atau welding utk dia bukak...takder cara lain...
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drill ok . welding x nk . I dah gi kedai tayar semua reject .

QUOTE(kurangak @ Dec 10 2018, 11:45 AM)
looks like u can barely even weld it

how about this

soak it with penetrant oil, such as wd40 for 1/2 day, then try to turn it by chiseling the side to turn it
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you sure about this ? the nut stuck inside .
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post Dec 10 2018, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Dec 10 2018, 11:45 AM)
looks like u can barely even weld it

how about this

soak it with penetrant oil, such as wd40 for 1/2 day, then try to turn it by chiseling the side to turn it
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chances of WD40 working is almost nil.

Itulah shop always over torque when locking... thats why I always ask for locking by hand
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post Dec 10 2018, 12:14 PM

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Classical case of over torque. That's why torque wrench is important.
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post Dec 10 2018, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ Dec 10 2018, 12:14 PM)
Classical case of over torque. That's why torque wrench is important.
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I've never seen a torque wrench being used in all the workshops I went to. Wait, I don't think I've ever seen any torque wrench in a workshop at all.

Even if there was, the workers would not know how much torque to apply.
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post Dec 10 2018, 03:25 PM

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You may try, at an angle try to knock it/rotate it by chiseling it.

Possible damage to your rim surface if the chisel slips.

Its not clear from pic, but is the stud sticking out further than the rest of the lug/nut? If yes, even bigger challenge to chisel.
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post Dec 10 2018, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 10 2018, 12:10 PM)
chances of WD40 working is almost nil.

Itulah shop always over torque when locking... thats why I always ask for locking by hand
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Even if you tell them, they won't listen because to they have been doing it all the time. For me I just told them to be careful and not tighten too much and tell them to stop tightening when I already see they about to go too much. So far still ok, cross fingers.
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post Dec 10 2018, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 10 2018, 01:54 PM)
I've never seen a torque wrench being used in all the workshops I went to. Wait, I don't think I've ever seen any torque wrench in a workshop at all.

Even if there was, the workers would not know how much torque to apply.
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Some shops do use them, for example my regular Suzuki specialist, I saw they used it when tightening my lug nuts. But yeah most shops just use impact wrench unfortunately for their convenience.
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post Dec 10 2018, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Dec 10 2018, 03:59 PM)
Even if you tell them, they won't listen because to they have been doing it all the time. For me I just told them to be careful and not tighten too much and tell them to stop tightening when I already see they about to go too much. So far still ok, cross fingers.
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They will.

My regular tyre shop does that when requested.
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post Dec 10 2018, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Dec 10 2018, 03:59 PM)
Even if you tell them, they won't listen because to they have been doing it all the time. For me I just told them to be careful and not tighten too much and tell them to stop tightening when I already see they about to go too much. So far still ok, cross fingers.
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partly also due to poor quality of replica nuts....

But as you mentioned earlier, unless specifically remind, impact wrench all the way macam feeling like machine gun (don't know why this give the technicians the kick, already to the limit, still want to tekan further).

Hardly anyone used torque wrench unless really critical parts on the engines. Its really a hassle to torque in down manually as need to torque down few times.

Other wise, just keep the OEM nuts.
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post Dec 10 2018, 04:59 PM

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Haiya boss, I recommend come to this shop at Putrajaya, the only kedai that can accept and can setel for you.

Continental IDEAL CAR GROUP SDN BHD

14, JALAN INDUSTRI PUTRA 1 KAWASAN INDUSTRI PERKHIDMATAN, Presint 14, 62050 Putrajaya

1 hour setel..but have to buy their lug nut for 40 ringgit la...kasi can tauke mau untung.
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post Dec 10 2018, 05:45 PM

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Too much ugga dugga

Generally accepted 3 ugga dugga is the maximum for wheel lugs
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post Dec 10 2018, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(makaveli @ Dec 10 2018, 11:55 AM)
drill ok . welding x nk . I dah gi kedai tayar semua reject .
you sure about this ? the nut stuck inside .
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now that i looked at it again, mmg tabule oo... ur only salvation is to drill it out and replace it
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post Dec 10 2018, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Dec 10 2018, 04:03 PM)
Some shops do use them, for example my regular Suzuki specialist, I saw they used it when tightening my lug nuts. But yeah most shops just use impact wrench unfortunately for their convenience.
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That is interesting. Do they practise the "star" pattern when torquing the nuts?

QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Dec 10 2018, 04:37 PM)
partly also due to poor quality of replica nuts....

But as you mentioned earlier, unless specifically remind, impact wrench all the way macam feeling like machine gun (don't know why this give the technicians the kick, already to the limit, still want to tekan further).

Hardly anyone used torque wrench unless really critical parts on the engines. Its really a hassle to torque in down manually as need to torque down few times.

Other wise, just keep the OEM nuts.
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I overheard one workshop worker telling his apprentice to keep on tightening with the pneumatic wrench, so that the wheel does not drop off when driving.

I saw one workshop worker used manual wrench to further whack the wheel nuts after using pneumatic wrench because "pneumatic wrench is not powerful enough".

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post Dec 10 2018, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 10 2018, 01:54 PM)
I've never seen a torque wrench being used in all the workshops I went to. Wait, I don't think I've ever seen any torque wrench in a workshop at all.

Even if there was, the workers would not know how much torque to apply.
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You are so wrong. Tek Ming at sunway always torque wrench the lugs. I have been changing my cheap ass silverstone tires there for more than 5 years. They always torque wrench the wheels, even on my rust bucket corolla. There might be some bigger shops that serves high end cars that does that. But most average tire shop doesn't do it.
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post Dec 10 2018, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Dec 10 2018, 10:42 PM)
You are so wrong. Tek Ming at sunway always torque wrench the lugs. I have been changing my cheap ass silverstone tires there for more than 5 years. They always torque wrench the wheels, even on my rust bucket corolla. There might be some bigger shops that serves high end cars that does that. But most average tire shop doesn't do it.
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Don't understand what is so wrong about my not having seen a workshop having torque wrench?
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post Dec 11 2018, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 10 2018, 04:09 PM)
They will.

My regular tyre shop does that when requested.
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Hmm that's very good then, where is it?

QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Dec 10 2018, 04:37 PM)
partly also due to poor quality of replica nuts....

But as you mentioned earlier, unless specifically remind, impact wrench all the way macam feeling like machine gun (don't know why this give the technicians the kick, already to the limit, still want to tekan further).

Hardly anyone used torque wrench unless really critical parts on the engines. Its really a hassle to torque in down manually as need to torque down few times.

Other wise, just keep the OEM nuts.
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Yes oem nuts might not be pretty but they get the job done reliably. However not all aftermarket rims can use oem nuts! For example my Rays can only use the slim nut type so no choice but to replace the oem nuts with slimmer ones.I still chose the steel type, cross fingers they can still last. 😓 Been looking for original Rays nuts but used and reasonable prices but still cannot get yet.


QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 10 2018, 08:52 PM)
That is interesting. Do they practise the "star" pattern when torquing the nuts?
I overheard one workshop worker telling his apprentice to keep on tightening with the pneumatic wrench, so that the wheel does not drop off when driving.

I saw one workshop worker used manual wrench to further whack the wheel nuts after using pneumatic wrench because "pneumatic wrench is not powerful enough".
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Yes they practice the star/cross pattern when opening and tightening.

Yeah crazy dumb ass! That's why I always watch them so keep reminding them not to over tighten. I keep telling them if they over tighten then I cannot open later if got puncture.

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