i recently compared GMA950 vs GMA3000 using Gigabyte GA-945GM-S2(GMA950) and Gigabyte GA-946GM-DS2(GMA3000)
for 945 i enable DVMT making it 224MB and 946 also same but 256MB both frame size same at 8MB... both using Intel Pentium D 925 3GHz, Kingston 512MB DDR667, Samsung 80GB and e-View 450W PSU...

i ran 3Dmark03 a couple of times and it shows tat GMA950 scored more... even in term of FPS also GMA950 perform better...

GMA950: 14**
GMA3000: 11**

BTW... both can play C&C3 at everything low... and GMA3000 can play DOW wif everything low except texture detail which i put high... nicy...
the 945 jump out half way playing C&C3...

This post has been edited by t3chn0m4nc3r: Jun 10 2007, 11:51 AM

both sucks for an on-board graphic.. full stop
i think those GeForce 6100 as onboard is wayy better.. merely guessing

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Jun 10 2007, 11:52 AM

u can only find them on nForce3 or 4 i think... and same class as GMA3000...

BTW... Lappy 6150 scored 820 in 3Dmark03...

the 3xxx is essentially a DX10 capable adaptor

the 950 is a native DX9.0c

that's the only difference. in term of performance, both adaptor suxxors to the max

i wonder how's the performance of those on-board ATI graphic compare wif GMA or GeForce

err... i know but it's budget ma... not for advance gaming ma... like i said... GMA3000 good enough to play DOW wif high texture resolution at 800x600... no lag... not good meh...?

compare to Geforce Go 7300GS, is Intel GMA better or worser?

i bet worse

GAM950 cant play NFS:Carbon if i m not mistake.

friend dell inspiron with GMA 950 run NFS Most Wanted at even 800x600 is lag like hell and he fedup and stop playing
think the current best onboard would be the A690 chipset from ATI? it offers X1250 right? or maybe on par with GeForce 6150 I guess

but Intel is the biggest onboard graphic chips maker in the world, ironically

but performance is sucky

I think it's because of the centrino platform. Laptops can't be called centrino if it doesn't use intel chipsets.

3100 aka G33 still DX9
3500 aka G35 -->dx10

This post has been edited by arjuna_mfna: Jun 11 2007, 12:23 PM

No matter how sucky GMA is, Intel lead the biggest share of graphics processing unit market. Seconded by Nvidia.

Budget graphics processor is important for business class computer as it does not burden the manufacturer in mass-producing business computers.

In real benchmark, GMA are decent performer compared to VIA Unichrome II stuff, which still stuck at DirectX 8.1 or even Geforce 6100.

Intel's GMA is for a different (which is the biggest share of computer market share), which is the business/corporate computing. Comparing it with a dedicated PCI-E/AGP GPU completely unsuitable for benchmark as it is using shared memory architecture and different bus system.

This post has been edited by dopodplaya: Jun 11 2007, 12:33 PM

avoid geforce 6100, go for ati xpress200 or intel gma950 instead

This post has been edited by pk Tokan: Jun 11 2007, 12:40 PM

You joking, right? It's a no-no..

i rather go for X3000 (desktop) or X3100(laptop) for low-budget.

I think u r giving a wrong information, for gaming on onboard vga, geforce 6100 is far far better than xpress200 and GMA950.

guys... 1 prob... can any1 here exp how come GMA950 score better than GMA3000 in 3D mark... but not in gaming...? it's very confusing... putting a 7100GS in both boards... 946 board out perform 945 board quite far...
wif 7100GS:
945 - 1921
946 - 2923
both still using same PD925 3GHz, Kingston 512MB DDR667 RAM, Samsung 80GB Hdd... can it be because of the RAM...? cuz 945 max 533 only while 946 can go up to 667...

PS: These 2 boards are RM300 and below...

This post has been edited by t3chn0m4nc3r: Jun 11 2007, 03:53 PM

I hope you don't mind me asking a question,which of these graphics accelerator is suppose to be the better one?

built in ar...? by theory should be GMA3XXX series... but practically u have to test urself or search for comparison done by others... n some of them depend on other hardware as well...

P/S: GA-945GZM-S2 already absolete... replaced by GA-945GCMX-S2... diff is can support FSB 1333 processor but FSB still frozen at 1066 unless OC... and the RAM can go up to 667MHz...

nope... 7300GS is better... even 7100 also better than GMA...

brother... GMA950 is not meant for gaming... it's for presentation and normal use... and it's cheaper...

do u think 6150 is really good...? 7100 is basically a moded 6200... and i'm not impressed wif it...

not price wise...

3100 and above are all DX10 ready rite....?

yeah... i mean how many gamers are there out there...? which is y WCG is not as popular as FIFA... but from the video footage from WCG website it feels like wrestling...

wise choice...

i wouldn't go for tat... 6100 is so outdated(look at which nForce using tat graphic)... X1250 & GMA3*** r the best choice of budget gaming onboard graphics...

This post has been edited by t3chn0m4nc3r: Jun 17 2007, 01:28 PM

You can't really compare Intel GMA series graphics adapter with those from Nvidia and ATi. The Intel VGA adapters was designed with low power consumption in mind. That is why it is integrated with most laptops in the market today. If you want to compare graphical raw power, no doubt Nvidia/ATi will pawn Intel. However, if you were to compare energy efficiency/low power consumption, Intel's GMA adapter pawns Nvidia/ATi.

If u want gaming for integrated u should go for Nvidia or AMD solutions not from Intel. Anyway for very budget gaming u should looking to upgrade to 7300GT DDR3(PCIe). Its quite cheap right now or 8500GT for DX10.

Wht is the price range of budget gaming laptop to u?
How about Benq Core2Duo lappy fitted with x1600 hyper memory to 512MB 1GB 667Mhz Ram only RM3550+ sounds to u?
Am going to get one next year after they hv updated the processor to santa rosa.

u mean s41?

S73g

s41

yeah..juz checked out their website...apparently they already hv updated the model...
anyway,dunno whether the price of s41 will stil remain as affordable as s73g?I like the new processor and the webcam tho...

nop, 3100 not support dx10

plz refer this link vga part
http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelme...=11&l3=542&l4=0

This post has been edited by arjuna_mfna: Jun 20 2007, 08:15 AM

Gaming lappy sucks. Just wait until ASUS or MSI produce xternal VGA device and then plug an 8800Ultra on ur sub RM2000 lappy.

This post has been edited by §layerXT: Jun 18 2007, 04:12 PM

guys... i'm juz using 3Dmark & game as performance reference la... i didn't say it's for gaming although they are great alternative... and please consider price leh...

Would u mind xplain y is dat so?

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Added on June 19, 2007, 7:44 pmsorry..forgot to quote earlier

This post has been edited by kel_jink: Jun 19 2007, 07:44 PM

Gaming on lappy cost u very expensive, usually above RM5000. Furthermore if u want high end GPU on laptop maybe cost nearly RM10k. Lappy below RM5k usually equipped with lower midrange card such as X1600PRO or 7400GS(which both perform slower than 6600GT) which degrade gaming experience.

why do u need buy expensive notebook and play games on it... let see the budget rm5000 for gaming notebook, spend rm3000 form pc lo, can get good spec with rm3000 gaming pc, then spend other rm2000 for normal notebook, that the way i always do, buy budget notebook just for normal work, and good rig for gaming... buy rm5000 notebook is useless to me...

This post has been edited by arjuna_mfna: Jun 20 2007, 11:59 AM

But if ur casual gamer its fine though.

how much would u spend on a gaming rig...? n how much would an average gamer if rough income of RM1.5K would spend...?
i'm juz testing the cheap alternative...