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oucheev
post Dec 6 2018, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 6 2018, 10:20 AM)
Yo idiot. The agreement contract I sign ask me to pay RM300 for 108 months. I paid since 2013 diligently. Now suddenly next month I have to pay RM1350++?? just because my salary bracket fall to the 15%.

You have poor comprehensive reading. People rage about the sudden increase only monthly payment. The people who rage here are not those bastard who didnt pay a single cent nor they dont want to pay at all.

Get it?

or need some drawing in a flowchart for you to comprehend this?
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Your salary reach the 15% bracket and you still want to pay peanuts of RM300 only. You can clearly afford to pay more earlier to settle the loan but prefer to pay peanuts. Why? Because most PTPTN borrowers like you never take payment of this loan a priority.



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post Dec 6 2018, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 6 2018, 10:34 AM)
What's the point of having the agreement at the very first place? What's the point having payment schedule contract then? everybody should revise their loan commitment based on income percentage?

I am PAYING according to the agreed contract.

So question for you this year you pay your car 1000 permonth, and at 2019 you gonna pay 1500 per month if you got huge increment? Seriously? Are you doing this now?
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If you look at the any loan agreement by the bank, there's always a clause where the bank have the right to vary the terms of loans whenever they like.

Also, does car or housing loan charge you 1% interest only? Everyone knows when you take car or housing loan, at least 1/2 of the loan period, you're paying the interest only. Are you willing to pay interest similar to banks for PTPTN? If yes, then I am sure the government will be happy to discuss long repayment period with you.

Let's assume your loan + interest is 32,400 because you agreed to pay 300 for 108 months/9 years. For someone who has salary of 8K and above, I am sure he has worked for at least 5 years. So the amount paid would be 60 X 300 = 18,000. Balance owing to government is probably around 14,400 only. I am sure someone who have 8K salary will have savings more than 14,400 and can easily settle the loan. But why aren't they doing it?



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post Dec 6 2018, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Lovekiki1208 @ Dec 6 2018, 10:57 AM)
I believe Government has given enough of grace period to the loaner since BN regime. Even give discount if they complete the loan earlier. Any action from the loaners? No, Some loaners don't take it seriously to repay.

Like traffic saman, who care to pay traffic saman? Until they have been forced by court or given discount, then they started to pay. All this people attitude.
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Yup and all those who complain about 8K salary paying 1.2K, if they have been paying regularly, the loan amount should not be much anymore. Should be around 10K to 15K only. Can easily be settled with discount some more but they take it for granted. The problem is a lot of PTPTN borrowers do not take this loan seriously. Even those who are paying it will drag it as long as possible because the interest is so low.
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post Dec 7 2018, 11:10 AM

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Actually the solution is simple. They should use net income and not gross income as the benchmark on % of payment. Net income means after all statutory deductions but does not include personal loans such as housing, car, etc.

I am sure someone who has net income of 8k should be able to afford 1.2k installment.
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post Dec 7 2018, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 7 2018, 11:36 AM)
So how many people earning 8k above still haven't settled their PTPTN?
Somebody who earned a fresh grad salary of 3k would need about 12 years to reach 8K salary with a generous 10% yearly increment. And PTPTN contract terms are usually 10 to 15 years only, so they would have jsut a couple.of thousand in PTPTN debt at this point.
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Unless they have not been paying regularly.

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post Dec 7 2018, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 7 2018, 11:59 AM)
Then padan muka them. Or in other words, the 15% rate for those above 8k salary is clearly targetted to those who have neglected to pay all this while and should have been able to fir years.
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If the person have consistently pay since they start working, the balance amount should not be much. By the time they reach 8K salary, it will at least need 6 to 7 years.

The problem with the whole PTPTN scheme is enforcement were too lax during BN time causing a lot of people to misuse and abuse the whole scheme. It was made worst when they allowed long repayment periods. The whole scheme ballooned into what it is today and it is just not financially feasible anymore if the government wants to continue giving loans to students.


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post Dec 7 2018, 12:43 PM

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It’s all about priority. There are a lot of people who put settling ptptn as their main priority and most of this people have either settled the loans or do not have much to settle anymore.

There are too many people who treat ptptn as their least priority. The new iPhone, Honda Civic, 700k condo, trip to Europe, etc. is their main priority first. Or they prefer to have $ in FD, unit trust, shares, etc. because it’s always better when $ is in your own hands instead of settling a loan with 1% interests only. Why bother, I enjoy my life first. Other people can’t get loan none of my business!

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