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solarmystic
post Dec 4 2018, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(junclj @ Dec 4 2018, 09:56 AM)
Yes, the speedtest results in Sabah here is not so beautiful. It's even worse at sometimes. Most of the time only have 400mbps out of my 500mbps, speedtest is doing by LAN networks.
Your people says that RT-AC86U on wifi is able to reach 520mbps but mine is only have 400mbps maximum.

Ping in east Malaysia is high, between 25~30ms. Not like yours in west Malaysia 0~8ms. Steam download only has 25MB/s out of the real subscribed speed of 62.5MB/s.
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Seems like if you live in EM, it's only worth to subscribe up to 300-500 Mbps package for UNIFI since you can't get anything higher in real world conditions.
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post Dec 4 2018, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Roz Ariffin @ Dec 4 2018, 03:29 AM)
Yeah. Do u think thats the reason why the download speed capped? But from the speedtest TM, i able to reach 800mbps. Only download from other sites or link that give me 300mbps maximum speed.
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No idea bro sweat.gif You using DIR842 / C1200 / DIR85L ?

Have you tried downloading using 2 PCs at the same time? Can both get 300Mbps or so?
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post Dec 4 2018, 11:51 AM

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Try download multiple files/vids from google drive/ utube ( for testing purposes, ).
see if all add up to 800mbps.

its normal for international link,
there's no way you can get full 800 MB on china server.
same thing, its international!
its congested

and not all hosting allow 800mb/user upload for performance purposes.
and 1 more thing to consider. were not using fix IP, we shared.

On speedtest.net
you given an option to select server.

try speedtest on different server/location, you can see, the farther it tis, the slower it gets.
its different for bigshot company like google,youtube/facebook the have server all around the world.

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post Dec 4 2018, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 4 2018, 09:57 AM)
TM Unifi guarantee the speed they provide to their exchange only, it does not guarantee the speed to anywhere in the world. How fast to other end of the connection depending on the ISP to ISP Peering agreement.
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So you want to mention that different website has capped for the certain speed, is it? Since you mention connection depend between ISP and ISP peering..

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post Dec 4 2018, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(JuneResources @ Dec 4 2018, 05:15 PM)
So you want to mention that different website has capped for the certain speed, is it? Since you mention connection depend between ISP and ISP peering..
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in layman yes.
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post Dec 5 2018, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(johnsdoes @ Dec 4 2018, 11:51 AM)
Try download multiple files/vids from google drive/ utube ( for testing purposes, ).
see if all add up to 800mbps.

its normal for international link,
there's no way you can get full 800 MB on china server.
same thing, its international!
its congested

and not all hosting allow 800mb/user upload for performance purposes.
and 1 more thing to consider. were not using fix IP, we shared.

On speedtest.net
you given an option to select server.

try speedtest on different server/location, you can see, the farther it tis, the slower it gets.
its different for bigshot company like google,youtube/facebook the have server all around the world.
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International links are not congested! If you dont believe me, go check the used capacity, this is something ISPs and companies will refuse the share. What happens is that both sides throttle each other down to a few Mb/s. So unless you're getting a dedicated line you're not gonna be seeing your full subscribed speeds for international. To give an example, if you transfer a file between your house and a house in the US, the speeds can be as low as a few Mb/s, due to US ISPs being greedy and heavily capping downs from other countries (not like they gotta down much from others). But whoever downloads will basically pay the other ISP that uploads. Malaysia which is lacking upload is at a disadvantage here. ISPs tend to be billed per data used and some ISPs like TM actually have dedicated international links but not to china, to the UK.

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post Dec 5 2018, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(Roz Ariffin @ Dec 2 2018, 09:48 PM)
I send u PM the download link

I already tested download 3 links at the same time, still capped 300 Mbps maximum speed.
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Bro,

Send me the link too, i wanna test also.

on wired lan, speed test i managed to get 825mbps, not sure if full download speed is how much.
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post Dec 5 2018, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Dec 2 2018, 11:52 PM)
300Mb/s to europe is not bad, international links are what malaysian ISP lacks. TM is a tier 1 ISP as well so they make their own international links too but singapore and thailand are considered, even indonesia so no one wants to connect to malaysia. I've been saying that we need to upload more, but ISPs are giving us far less upload than download.

Time however wont get 1Gb/s to europe, certainly not even 300Mb/s.
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How do you know it is connected to European server?

As far as I know, the cloud services and cloud storage normally feature a large distributed content delivery network. So even you are downloading from microsoft one drive or google drive, the server which serves the download might be from its nearest data center/server.
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post Dec 5 2018, 11:29 AM

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https://www.submarinecablemap.com/

The above website will give overview how the connection of submarine cables (99% are internet data if not all), and you can get to know the speed by google the submarine cable name.

Most traffic to US are via East (taiwan or hk or japan), some traffic to Europe is also from East (in overview to Taiwan/Japan -> US -> Europe), that is why going to Europe traffic is sometime slow. Is all depending what route the isp use.

Also another point to take note, consumer bandwidth assignment are different from corporate (lease line) assignment. They call it "internet link ratio". Lease line usually have 1:1 or 1:2, while consumer 1:50 are normal. That is why speed test to oversea may sometime slow for consumer.

https://www.canstarblue.com.au/internet/int...tention-ratios/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contention_ratio

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post Dec 5 2018, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 5 2018, 12:29 PM)
https://www.submarinecablemap.com/

The above website will give overview how the connection of submarine cables (99% are internet data if not all), and you can get to know the speed by google the submarine cable name.

Most traffic to US are via East (taiwan or hk or japan), some traffic to Europe is also from East (in overview to Taiwan/Japan -> US -> Europe), that is why going to Europe traffic is sometime slow. Is all depending what route the isp use.

Also another point to take note, consumer bandwidth assignment are different from corporate (lease line)  assignment. They call it "internet link ratio". Lease line usually have 1:1 or 1:2, while consumer 1:50 are normal. That is why speed test to oversea may sometime slow for consumer.

https://www.canstarblue.com.au/internet/int...tention-ratios/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contention_ratio
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If that true, there are 2 users here reported they got full speed with the same link that i downloaded. Its from TM endpoint that got problem. I believe they capping some users or location. Yesterday i got called from TM, they will send somone again (second time) to check my unifi.
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QUOTE(Roz Ariffin @ Dec 5 2018, 12:21 PM)
If that true, there are 2 users here reported they got full speed with the same link that i downloaded. Its from TM endpoint that got problem. I believe they capping some users or location. Yesterday i got called from TM, they will send somone again (second time) to check my unifi.
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Another possibility is the area during that time are saturated.
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post Dec 5 2018, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(Hummingbird @ Dec 5 2018, 09:03 AM)
How do you know it is connected to European server?

As far as I know, the cloud services and cloud storage normally feature a large distributed content delivery network. So even you are downloading from microsoft one drive or google drive, the server which serves the download might be from its nearest data center/server.
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because the OP showed a file transfer between his PC and his server in EU, so its not distributed as its to a single server.

QUOTE(Roz Ariffin @ Dec 5 2018, 12:21 PM)
If that true, there are 2 users here reported they got full speed with the same link that i downloaded. Its from TM endpoint that got problem. I believe they capping some users or location. Yesterday i got called from TM, they will send somone again (second time) to check my unifi.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 5 2018, 12:49 PM)
Another possibility is the area during that time are saturated.
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Try dslreports.com , not only can it max out your connection, but most of it is international meaning this will test your international bandwidth, latency and bufferbloat in a multi connection test. This is one way to fully utilise your connection though and this is why torrents area hated because they defeated QoS in the past. My QoS setup definitely works better though. For example, when i was on TIME 100Mb/s, i could get 100Mb/s in this test and A+ bufferbloat (I used QoS for this). However players got way higher latencies when i hosted minecraft, huge latency between actions when fighting NPCs, when i applied a complicated QoS setup, i halved their NPC lag and this means that they arent even getting 1Mb/s internationally. You will not max out a single connection internationally but you can with multiple connections, and the contention ratio is real so its very dependent on use. Distributed content does help but most of the distributed content we use comes from singapore (there is no google, facebook, youtube and so on hosted/cached in malaysia).

you are kidding yourself if you think malaysia's internet is fast, i mean TM is only giving turbo to like 1% of its users till mid next year (they are waiting for competitors to start offering the same speeds before they give it to all customers). At Tier 1, they connect to one another and luckily TM is tier 1 but treating their existing customers horribly. The other ISPs like TIME and maxis are tier 2 and 3 with maxis probably having some of their own tier 1 done between MY and india. What this means is that everything that goes out of their network, goes onto someone elses network. So it is this that determines congestion and throttling if your ISP doesnt throttle you. All dslreports will do in bandwidth test will show that the link is full on the national level.
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Very very aggressive bandwidth management.
All from private tracker with at least 10 seedboxes seeding each torrent.
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post Dec 6 2018, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(biloxee @ Dec 5 2018, 10:57 PM)
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That singtel result is really really strange. Super high, unusual ping for a Sg server.
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QUOTE(solarmystic @ Dec 6 2018, 02:23 AM)
That singtel result is really really strange. Super high,  unusual ping for a Sg server.
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Yea. I think it's a routing issue.
Different IP but still no where near 800Mbps...

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post Dec 6 2018, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Dec 5 2018, 02:03 AM)
International links are not congested! If you dont believe me, go check the used capacity, this is something ISPs and companies will refuse the share. What happens is that both sides throttle each other down  to a few Mb/s
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Totally wrong, Malaysia Cahaya is 10Tbps raw to the US and E Asia and it cost a fortune to build. Malaysia has maybe 10M users of Facebook etc, so that works out as 1Mbps each. No way are you going to get 800Mbps to a US server.

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QUOTE(dayojah @ Dec 6 2018, 05:33 PM)
Totally wrong, Malaysia Cahaya is 10Tbps raw to the US and E Asia and it cost a fortune to build. Malaysia has maybe 10M users of Facebook etc, so that works out as 1Mbps each. No way are you going to get 800Mbps to a US server.
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but not all 10M are using at once, and facebook for this region is hosted in singapore. As i was trying to say there is some traffic management going on, and home users are artifically throttled in some cases but not all. 2 years ago when i tested i could eek out 4+Mb/s in home to home transfers for a single connection. The physical connections are not owned by every T1 ISP so even though TM may offer connectivity between malaysia and UK, they do so over existing networks, or probably get a bunch of people to all invest in infrastructure together.

We still need more ISPs to step up and network more, by that i dont just mean offer at T3 (end user) but also to build their national and international networks more. Even TNB also have their own T2 network that they are leasing out to ISPs now too.

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Haha i guess i am very happy with the 100mbps then

I get 100 local 100 international here laugh.gif laugh.gif no slow slow here
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