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Investment SOLASTA @ PERSIARAN DUTAMAS, Dutamas' Latest New Project

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post Apr 2 2019, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(Syahrim Naim @ Apr 1 2019, 09:36 PM)
Yeah you can later. But for now, you cannot buy this project like that. But don’t believe me la, tomorrow try call developer or chester.
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What this guy is saying is correct. 1 block FR sapu alrd. I heard another property investment group is going to sapu another block. I managed to get in contacts with YNH even before FR masuk. I might be able to get 50 units. But I might take around 20/25 units for my family, friends and I. I will keep you guys updated.
For sure [EMAIL]Syahrim Naim[/EMAIL] is an agent for FR. Do you mind confirming this news?
brown.ho
post Apr 2 2019, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(Syahrim Naim @ Apr 2 2019, 04:14 PM)
Sure its the 1st time en-bloc. We can only do this if we have a big numbers of clients. So yeah, we have reached a milestone.

All the things you guys are asking, you can easily get the answers if you attend his talk. Don’t wanna pay, go to the free ones. Almost every week got free talk. Free food some more. Aiyah...
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Boy, I doubt you know what you are talking about. By this week, I will justify how much FR and team have spent on Solasta alone. I actually manage to get more infos from YNH. Apparently FR's agents a.k.a BBV are starting to sell as well. So you must be a BBV agent as well eh? And agents selling second block? Oh, don't be curios. I'm going to make sure the investors who bought into Solasta are going into smithereens. nod.gif

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post Apr 2 2019, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(hazwan_zohdi @ Apr 2 2019, 05:25 PM)
So sbnrnye, stay away from this investment or what?
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This is simple economics my friend. Let's say FR and his whole clown team take-up 80% of Solasta and you go ahead and buy yourself (if it is possible). When it is completed, everyone will be racing for tenants. Supply-demand story. High supply of units and low demand for tenats, price will drop down for sure. On the selling side, just imagine everyone buying for flipping purposes, screw the RPGT, when everyone wants to sell and no one wants to buy, same case, price will tumble down. Now, did your fufu FR even mentioned this theory? Correct me if I'm wrong, but a healthy development must at least have β…“ of buyers who are non investors. Btw, to @Syahrim Naim these are the basics of property investment that you can't find out there and you must read yourself.
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post Apr 3 2019, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Syahrim Naim @ Apr 3 2019, 11:18 AM)
That is why Johnson, we would have the upper hand. We are closer to the market price.
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What is the market price for Dutamas ya? If not mistaken your beloved FR always mention Do not break median?. Also, how much is the median for dutamas?
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post Apr 4 2019, 03:45 PM

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Just got news from YNH that FR and team's bulk purchase didn't go through. So FR is still trying to negotiate to hold on to the first block. Anyhow, YNH confirmed that the public can buy. Don't need to be FR client anyways. They also confirmed that FR and team is buying with over 30% discount of the price. Rest assured that the public will get it as well.

In my opinion, not sure if it is a good buy now or not because of what is happening to FR.

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post Apr 4 2019, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(waitzkin @ Apr 4 2019, 04:31 PM)
no free lunch boss. But i believe his followers know about this and they are ok with it.

some people dont have time to study, go to showrooms to compare, manage rental etc. They are willing to pay RM5k-20k to get 1 "good" property. And they know about the charges when they signed to be FAR Capital Client.

And from what i heard, for this project there is no "consultant fees". So FAR Capital just get the commissions from the delevoper.
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agent fees from developer kaw2 liao. They are controlling the whole YNH leh

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post Apr 6 2019, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(hazwan_zohdi @ Apr 6 2019, 10:49 AM)
Quite a few from FR inner circle.
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quite a few? I don't think 1 block sold is "quite a few"
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post Apr 7 2019, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(indramerlin @ Apr 7 2019, 01:16 PM)
Okay.. I being honest with you guys.. I just wanna say this YNH Solasta is the best property you can buy right now.. Confirm breakeven rental or slightly +ve cashflow even w/out KL metropolis..

It's 15-20 years game.. until KL metropolis fully matured.. Wow.. You can achieve your financial freedom. Trust me fellas..

Don't just buy 1 unit, buy at least 3 unit each la.

btw, half of buyers buy for ownstay because facilities top world class..
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I totally agree with you. Not gonna deny there's gonna be positive cashflow after completion. But I think what most people are worried about is the FR team bulk purchasing. If most of the buyers purchase for investment, prediction looks like negative cashflow for first few years. But after 2 years VP, should be breakeven or at least minimal positive cashflow.
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post Apr 8 2019, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(A.B.D. @ Apr 8 2019, 10:59 AM)
easy for solasta promoters to deflect. just say solasta is latest high tech world class building, not like the grouping in brickz, all kinds of lousy condo also included. so that median is not accurate.  devil.gif
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exactly that FR and team said. When we mention DONT BREAK MEDIAN they would say it if famous LYF motto

QUOTE(Syahrim Naim @ Apr 3 2019, 05:13 PM)
Quoting famous lyf motto, there is no free lunch boss.
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post Apr 9 2019, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(dGemz @ Apr 8 2019, 03:59 PM)
Erm...u got this news from where? i just called YNH and they are not opening up to public. And...they directed me to FR! so who exactly confirmed all these info to you? blink.gif
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Got the inside new from my friend working in YNH.
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post Apr 18 2019, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(indramerlin @ Apr 17 2019, 06:43 PM)
I just booked..
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how much you paid? did you need to buy any other different developments as well?
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post Apr 18 2019, 11:03 PM

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From BBV side, in order to buy 1 unit of Solasta, they will require you to buy 1 unit of their other projects i.e Suasana Damai and Upperville. Previously it was 2 units but I think no demand so they reduced it to one. Clearly FR and BBV having dry days now and more to come.
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post Apr 23 2019, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Apr 21 2019, 10:25 AM)
The question is: If the peach is Grade A, why the peach farmer give exclusive rights to fruits seller to sell at below market peach prices to consumer? tongue.gif

2 possibilities

1. The peach farmer is dumb -- they dunno theirs are Grade A peaches , so they sell at cheap prices
2. Those peaches are really just Grade C peaches but fruit sellers bought wholesale and market as Grade A peaches

There is another possible reason but won't be revealed here... biggrin.gif
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2nd possibility is likely. YNH not too dumb to sell at cheaper price. But once FR put upfront cash on the table then YNH kecut telur already lor. FR pretty much "determined" the price of this development. Investor infested development
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post Apr 29 2019, 09:53 AM

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@syahrimnaim can you please help us out and post the layout. Anyhow, we won't be able to buy it anyways... Even if one of us are interested, they can always buy through you which is a win for you
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post May 4 2019, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 3 2019, 10:57 AM)
rumour here has it, FR only intent to control one of the three blocks.

not 100% of the entire development,
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rumour also has it that FR en-block the whole development...

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post May 10 2019, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 9 2019, 10:03 PM)
Did they collect deposit under their own name without ren tag and realtor receipt?

Did they ever bank in or cash out yr deposit?

Did u never deal with developer in any time and only deal w the agent without ren, from deposit to getting yr spa and loan agreement signed sealed and delivered?
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I might be wrong but from my understandings about undercons properties, developer does not need REN/REA to sell. Because they alrd have the APDL. But for this case, I believe that FR is being referred to YNH for every sale. Correct me if I'm wrong
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post May 29 2019, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(propertybuddy @ May 29 2019, 09:51 AM)
of cos, it doesn't work this way,  PLS TAKE THIS NEUTRAL.. IN ANY WAY WE R JUST MAKING THE SAME COMPISON ACROSS ANY PRODUCTS..

Whatever it is you buying today, avoid buying bcos of jz price, mrt, hoc rebates, rebate packages, artist impression.. There are alot of other factors that many investors today, neglected. The same first five criterias to categorize a prop.. Can be use for things like aster, yc3, Trion, arcuz, serene, n so on..

Firstly, This Dev is not the fair comparison to Icon. Jz like u say City is cheap than Civic. Are they the same type of product first at the very first place..

Secondly, don't just compare due to just pricing. Its not the most crucial factors. Consider internal n external competition. You do swot on business. It's the same logic here. Your threat comes from external as well as internal. Consider upcoming competition of rental n capital appreciation due to other competing or complimentary products like Agile, Kami, Arte, Met n also existing competing and complimentary.. How r they doing so far.. How's the transacted price n rent?

Third, the purchaser mixture, is it highly investors, mix of investor or own stay or high on own stay.. High amount of investors means u hv stiff competition renting n selling, which also means higher pressure to rental /sales, which means u can hardly raise much price. Considering this factors, you got to have your game plan ahead signing the Dotted lines. What you gonna do with the units against all odds to get your unit realistically and predictable done up n rented up among the first at Icon rental?

Fourth, also consider other costs, like post VP Vacancies n other related costs.. What's the cost and waiting time like to achieve 200psf appreciation. And to note that 200psf is not nett gain. To deduct undercon prog int, reno cost, holding cost, insurance, taxes, assessment, tenancies cost.. And project 3 scenarios, what if u really make 200psf,  what if u don't, what if u make lesser than target 200psf?

Fifth, how's other YNH similar products deliveries and performance. How's the past performance of YNH products and good graded props, how's the feedback of previous buyers of previous good graded products . Is it appreciating upon VP? Isit easy to rent, or sell upon vp? What's the edge that these product have over other props after taking the consideration of waiting time, other factors and other related cost..

Just a 2cents feedback.. Read at your own risk.. Just give it a thought.. Rmb this criterias not jz for this Development, it works for any other Development
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Totally agree with you! I believe what you mentioned are the the factors that not all property investors cover, or not well that i know of. I really think the rookies who interested in Solasta are mainly because FR said it's a grade A project but they are clearly not aware of the mentioned above.

FR lately however has been telling his clients that Solasta won't get positive cashflow at least in the next five years. He only mentioned this after they paid booking I guess. Lol. Too bad for those who didn't study this property well.
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post May 30 2019, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ May 29 2019, 03:50 PM)
He is facing pure pressure fr taikors here la. He has to admit to the actual situation than to fabricate it.
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PH alert!! rclxs0.gif
If don't fabricate later he has no business...
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post Jun 3 2019, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Syahrim Naim @ Jun 1 2019, 01:57 AM)
Kahkahkah... you don't know how to analyse properties then ask for guarantee lol. Later you'll claim its a scam.
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is this the quality of FR's team and his agents? Tak salah pun if you share with us. Maybe one of us might be interested later on. That's business for you. Increasing the odds for you from what is now 0 to maybe AT LEAST 1 or 2. I am not underestimating your worth or anything just thought that FR and his team could improve in these areas. And at least we know what you guys are doing aren't sembang kencang hancing.
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post Jul 15 2019, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Jul 15 2019, 10:45 PM)
Oh I assuming the success rate of luring followers to commit to some top notch development is high n not a difficult task???

Bravo to followers πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘
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According to his superb grading system, it is a grade A++. All the pembaris out there and nubis will sure buy.

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