QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ May 28 2019, 09:58 PM)
Semua dah kenyang kot...Investment SOLASTA @ PERSIARAN DUTAMAS, Dutamas' Latest New Project
Investment SOLASTA @ PERSIARAN DUTAMAS, Dutamas' Latest New Project
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May 29 2019, 08:32 AM
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May 29 2019, 09:28 AM
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May 29 2019, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(mangoproperty @ May 15 2019, 07:16 PM) of cos, it doesn't work this way, PLS TAKE THIS NEUTRAL.. IN ANY WAY WE R JUST MAKING THE SAME COMPISON ACROSS ANY PRODUCTS.. Whatever it is you buying today, avoid buying bcos of jz price, mrt, hoc rebates, rebate packages, artist impression.. There are alot of other factors that many investors today, neglected. The same first five criterias to categorize a prop.. Can be use for things like aster, yc3, Trion, arcuz, serene, n so on.. Firstly, This Dev is not the fair comparison to Icon. Jz like u say City is cheap than Civic. Are they the same type of product first at the very first place.. Secondly, don't just compare due to just pricing. Its not the most crucial factors. Consider internal n external competition. You do swot on business. It's the same logic here. Your threat comes from external as well as internal. Consider upcoming competition of rental n capital appreciation due to other competing or complimentary products like Agile, Kami, Arte, Met n also existing competing and complimentary.. How r they doing so far.. How's the transacted price n rent? Third, the purchaser mixture, is it highly investors, mix of investor or own stay or high on own stay.. High amount of investors means u hv stiff competition renting n selling, which also means higher pressure to rental /sales, which means u can hardly raise much price. Considering this factors, you got to have your game plan ahead signing the Dotted lines. What you gonna do with the units against all odds to get your unit realistically and predictable done up n rented up among the first at Icon rental? Fourth, also consider other costs, like post VP Vacancies n other related costs.. What's the cost and waiting time like to achieve 200psf appreciation. And to note that 200psf is not nett gain. To deduct undercon prog int, reno cost, holding cost, insurance, taxes, assessment, tenancies cost.. And project 3 scenarios, what if u really make 200psf, what if u don't, what if u make lesser than target 200psf? Fifth, how's other YNH similar products deliveries and performance. How's the past performance of YNH products and good graded props, how's the feedback of previous buyers of previous good graded products . Is it appreciating upon VP? Isit easy to rent, or sell upon vp? What's the edge that these product have over other props after taking the consideration of waiting time, other factors and other related cost.. Just a 2cents feedback.. Read at your own risk.. Just give it a thought.. Rmb this criterias not jz for this Development, it works for any other Development This post has been edited by propertybuddy: May 29 2019, 10:04 AM |
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May 29 2019, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(propertybuddy @ May 29 2019, 09:51 AM) of cos, it doesn't work this way, PLS TAKE THIS NEUTRAL.. IN ANY WAY WE R JUST MAKING THE SAME COMPISON ACROSS ANY PRODUCTS.. And do not forget the density of this project. The same first five criterias to categorize a prop.. Can be use for things like aster, yc3, Trion, arcuz, serene, n so on.. Firstly, This Dev is not the fair comparison to Icon. Jz like u say City is cheap than Civic. Are they the same type of product first at the very first place.. Secondly, don't just compare due to price. Consider upcoming competition of rental n capital appreciation due to other competing or complimentary products like Agile, Kami, Arte, Met n so on Third, the purchaser mixture, is it highly investors, mix of investor or own stay or high on own stay.. High amount of investors means u hv stiff competition renting n selling, which also means higher pressure to rental /sales, which means u can hardly raise much price Fourth, also consider other costs, like post VP Vacancies n other related costs.. What's the cost and waiting time like to achieve 200psf appreciation. And to note that 200psf is not nett gain. To deduct undercon prog int, reno cost, holding cost, insurance, taxes, assessment, tenancies cost.. Fifth, how's other YNH similar products deliveries and performance. How's the past performance of YNH products and good graded props, how's the feedback of previous buyers of previous good graded products . Is it appreciating upon VP? Isit easy to rent, or sell upon vp? Not a fair comparison with Kami and Icon. I do not recall any of of YNH past projects that allow buyers to make decent profit. Definitely not in Ceriaan Kiara, Fraser Residences/place, Sfera. Some of these are even launched during the heyday property market. Hopefully Kiara 163 (mall, office and resi) will have good return performance. And I assume for this project are sold mainly as investment grade property which targeted to investors. Good Luck. |
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May 29 2019, 10:02 AM
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The catalyst of tis solasta is no doubt the peaceful land next to it. Not sure if there is a proposed direct access by walking to ease the traffic around onot. We'll u know how bad the traffic can be during specific calendar days regardless of race or religion.
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May 29 2019, 02:05 PM
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May 29 2019, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(propertybuddy @ May 29 2019, 09:51 AM) of cos, it doesn't work this way, PLS TAKE THIS NEUTRAL.. IN ANY WAY WE R JUST MAKING THE SAME COMPISON ACROSS ANY PRODUCTS.. Totally agree with you! I believe what you mentioned are the the factors that not all property investors cover, or not well that i know of. I really think the rookies who interested in Solasta are mainly because FR said it's a grade A project but they are clearly not aware of the mentioned above. Whatever it is you buying today, avoid buying bcos of jz price, mrt, hoc rebates, rebate packages, artist impression.. There are alot of other factors that many investors today, neglected. The same first five criterias to categorize a prop.. Can be use for things like aster, yc3, Trion, arcuz, serene, n so on.. Firstly, This Dev is not the fair comparison to Icon. Jz like u say City is cheap than Civic. Are they the same type of product first at the very first place.. Secondly, don't just compare due to just pricing. Its not the most crucial factors. Consider internal n external competition. You do swot on business. It's the same logic here. Your threat comes from external as well as internal. Consider upcoming competition of rental n capital appreciation due to other competing or complimentary products like Agile, Kami, Arte, Met n also existing competing and complimentary.. How r they doing so far.. How's the transacted price n rent? Third, the purchaser mixture, is it highly investors, mix of investor or own stay or high on own stay.. High amount of investors means u hv stiff competition renting n selling, which also means higher pressure to rental /sales, which means u can hardly raise much price. Considering this factors, you got to have your game plan ahead signing the Dotted lines. What you gonna do with the units against all odds to get your unit realistically and predictable done up n rented up among the first at Icon rental? Fourth, also consider other costs, like post VP Vacancies n other related costs.. What's the cost and waiting time like to achieve 200psf appreciation. And to note that 200psf is not nett gain. To deduct undercon prog int, reno cost, holding cost, insurance, taxes, assessment, tenancies cost.. And project 3 scenarios, what if u really make 200psf, what if u don't, what if u make lesser than target 200psf? Fifth, how's other YNH similar products deliveries and performance. How's the past performance of YNH products and good graded props, how's the feedback of previous buyers of previous good graded products . Is it appreciating upon VP? Isit easy to rent, or sell upon vp? What's the edge that these product have over other props after taking the consideration of waiting time, other factors and other related cost.. Just a 2cents feedback.. Read at your own risk.. Just give it a thought.. Rmb this criterias not jz for this Development, it works for any other Development FR lately however has been telling his clients that Solasta won't get positive cashflow at least in the next five years. He only mentioned this after they paid booking I guess. Lol. Too bad for those who didn't study this property well. |
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May 29 2019, 03:49 PM
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May 29 2019, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(brown.ho @ May 29 2019, 02:23 PM) Totally agree with you! I believe what you mentioned are the the factors that not all property investors cover, or not well that i know of. I really think the rookies who interested in Solasta are mainly because FR said it's a grade A project but they are clearly not aware of the mentioned above. He is facing pure pressure fr taikors here la. He has to admit to the actual situation than to fabricate it.FR lately however has been telling his clients that Solasta won't get positive cashflow at least in the next five years. He only mentioned this after they paid booking I guess. Lol. Too bad for those who didn't study this property well. |
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May 29 2019, 04:49 PM
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May 30 2019, 12:06 PM
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Jun 1 2019, 01:57 AM
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QUOTE(David_77 @ May 15 2019, 07:53 AM) Let see... maybe after 3 hours talk, 50 pages of ppt, followed by 1 hour of QA and another 30 mins of sending kaki to informally mix with potential buyers. Kahkahkah... you don't know how to analyse properties then ask for guarantee lol. Later you'll claim its a scam.If still not able to convince, get kaki to promote it as Grade A in forums, send follow up emails/calls. This should do the trick. Why need signed agreement to guarantee? π But I might be wrong. Maybe there IS a guarantee agreement. Syahrim Naim, ada guarantee agreement that? But the guarantor cannot by company lah. Itβs your guluβs personal guarantee that will be important. |
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Jun 1 2019, 02:27 AM
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Jun 1 2019, 05:32 AM
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Jun 1 2019, 08:35 AM
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Jun 1 2019, 08:49 AM
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Jun 1 2019, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(Syahrim Naim @ Jun 1 2019, 01:57 AM) Kahkahkah... you don't know how to analyse properties then ask for guarantee lol. Later you'll claim its a scam. Kan bodoh with your reply? Orang pun takut asking you for advice sekarang with your condescending reply π€¦π»ββοΈI tanya, ada guarantee tak? If ada, jawap βadaβ. If no, jawap βtiadaβ. Simple kan? You tulis like this, lagi curiga tentang niat you π€π€π€ |
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Jun 1 2019, 02:18 PM
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no one can guarantee anything bro except dead and taxes.....
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Jun 1 2019, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ May 14 2019, 10:45 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I personally would likey palma if die die wan real mk. Dun speculate dutamas as mk ya even thou its not tat far away. And if the below π is a real deal I wish I can buy it and wait for solasta to vp n revisit tis tered. https://www.iproperty.com.my/property/mont-...a/sale-6672849/ Btw does solasta hav tis nice landscape like palma??? Just curious. Or is 1k units now a min criteria to b grade A??? 700psf with no greenery but lotsa gd neighbours must b the must hav in any development I guess. Old birds like palma should step aside πππ |
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QUOTE(Syahrim Naim @ Jun 1 2019, 01:57 AM) Kahkahkah... you don't know how to analyse properties then ask for guarantee lol. Later you'll claim its a scam. is this the quality of FR's team and his agents? Tak salah pun if you share with us. Maybe one of us might be interested later on. That's business for you. Increasing the odds for you from what is now 0 to maybe AT LEAST 1 or 2. I am not underestimating your worth or anything just thought that FR and his team could improve in these areas. And at least we know what you guys are doing aren't sembang kencang hancing. |
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