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post Nov 28 2018, 08:56 AM, updated 8y ago

 
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does that 10% make a big difference under our hot tropical sun? hmm.gif

should i just go with the 75%?

Topping up RM400 for that extra 10% from the price they quoted me.

just wanna know if its worth paying for that extra 10% or it does not make a significant difference when it comes to car tint vs our tropical weather.

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post Nov 28 2018, 08:59 AM

 
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QUOTE(IMBeta305 @ Nov 28 2018, 08:58 AM)
park
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i saw you posted recently

you also looking for new tint? laugh.gif
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post Nov 28 2018, 09:01 AM

 
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QUOTE(TunZ @ Nov 28 2018, 09:00 AM)
Hello JPJ
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KEK

IR =/= VLT

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post Nov 28 2018, 09:03 AM

 
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Nov 28 2018, 09:02 AM)
Even 75% and 85% VLT is way more than the minimum of 70% imposed by JPJ.
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i dont need too dark now maybe.. so i'll just go with the allowed VLT

they did say i could go all the way to 30% VLT for all windows, but i dont want. laugh.gif

maybe i'll stick to 50% VLT for all 4 passenger windows instead. including the rear

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post Nov 28 2018, 09:13 AM

 
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 28 2018, 09:11 AM)
it does make a difference but u better make sure the VLT complies
else you're gonna waste more money reinstalling it
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QUOTE(2feidei @ Nov 28 2018, 09:12 AM)
ask them to demo it out for u lah.....

my suggestion, go for the highest spec within your budget, no regret later
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they did demo to me

showed me both 75% and 85%, although i dont feel that MUCH of a difference when standing next to the demo area (he told me to stand next to each tint to feel the amount of heat passing through.

both also within my budget but im just not sure if its worth paying for that extra 10% or not only hmm.gif
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post Nov 28 2018, 09:22 AM

 
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QUOTE(2feidei @ Nov 28 2018, 09:16 AM)
u need to stay longer to feel the effect.......my view is since both within your budget, go for the better one, after all, u already pay so much for your car, what the difference of additional amount.

Pricing, can be further nego one  whistling.gif

BTW, both are non JPJ compliant or JPJ compliant or one yes, one no? Or, u don't care  JPJ rule laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 28 2018, 09:17 AM)
if stand few second, it won't make any difference
but unless the constant sun, it will make a difference
BUT i already say it before, better watch out for your VLT else you're gonna be opening new thread abt how JPJ kacau your car
which will backfire easily laugh.gif

and for me lah...in terms of tint...workmanship > all
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true also... because still need to see how it performs in real life situation where we park under the sun for 30 mins to 1-2 hours hmm.gif



they did mention both are jpj compliance

but i can choose to go darker if i want to (at first i wanted 70% front, 30% all around)

so now im thinking 50% all around (safer)

front windshield as long as can still see, JPJ shouldnt kacau too much

since 50% all around can still see whole car interior
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post Nov 28 2018, 09:30 AM

 
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 28 2018, 09:28 AM)
they say JPJ compliance is useless, there is only 2 way to know
1. the VLT %
2. shop warranty
the shop that i install at gave me a word that if JPJ stop u, u ask them to saman only...take the saman back to us and we will settle it for u laugh.gif
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yea understand that too

but as long as its not too dark, lesser chance for JPJ to kacau also

hmm but im not sure if 30% is way too dark nowadays?

or 50% is good enough? hmm.gif

whats your VLT?
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post Nov 28 2018, 09:39 AM

 
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QUOTE(Zot @ Nov 28 2018, 09:31 AM)
JPJ current rule for VLT is:
70% front
50% driver and passenger side
30% backseat windows and rear

I'm using 70% front and 50% for the rest. This is still in line with rule. Some people go for rear seat windows 30% but it look weird to mee. Not even between front and rear windows. For just read windscreen at 30% is still ok, but for me I stick with 50% because I like to see what behind me more clearly. I always monitor surrounding from time to time when driving to be alert. If too dark it is bad especially when it rain and at night.
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i plan to do that also!

either 70% front and 50% for the rest including rear

or whole thing 50% including front.

just wanna ask.. 50% is good enough to have your interior visible but not wayyyy too visible? including the passengers and driver.

and yes! quite OCD, its just looks so weird seeing front windows at 50% while rear windows is darker at 30%

thats why its either i go 30% for all 4 windows, or 50% for the whole thing laugh.gif


QUOTE(2feidei @ Nov 28 2018, 09:32 AM)
something liddat lah, but, it look stupid for u to stand there for 30 min to 1-2 hours behind their demo to test  doh.gif

Kenot remember the compliance, but, whether JPJ want to kacau u or not, depends on your luck lah......visual verification is one thing, but, to be certain, they will use the equipment to measure one.

If u bad luck, if yours is non compliant, they use equipment, failed, then, u need to remove it, go puspakom for them to verify. Or, he say, sorry, no equipment on hand, they issue u notice first, ask u go JPJ office later for them to test, even though if yours is JPJ compliant one.

But, so far, in my mani years of driving, only kena once.
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as far as i know, once we tint, its already not compliance, but its just as long as not too dark, they also wont really kacau you hmm.gif
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post Nov 28 2018, 09:42 AM

 
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 28 2018, 09:41 AM)
30% is definitely too dark
stay with JPJ compliance which is always 50% and above
and u have to know tint works both way, meaning if its hard to see from the outside to inside
you're gonna have trouble looking outside from inside
especially at night laugh.gif
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i see

then i think its better to be 50% all around.

because sometimes blind spots occur around our passenger seat windows too sweat.gif

or some idiot car/bike might be sticking too close to us on the left side and we cant see them (day time)

but anyway.. whats you IR amount?

i still dunno if i wanna go for 75% or use 85% although its still within budget. LOL

if not worth at least i wont be paying 400 extra. 400 can use for other things laugh.gif

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post Nov 28 2018, 10:00 AM

 
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QUOTE(Zot @ Nov 28 2018, 09:51 AM)
Why want to use 75% or even more VLT 85% if JPJ allows down to 70%. It will be hotter. The TSER for 70% VLT for good one is probably range in 50~60%
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oh im talking about the IR, not the VLT

as VLT, i can choose if i want it to be JPJ compliance (at least) or if i wanna go darker on my own is also ok.

now im just now sure if its worth paying for that extra 10% in question of our tropical weather

if lets say i pay 400 more just so that 10% can help cool my car down 30 seconds faster.. then i dont feel its worth it lol.

but if that 10% does impact a lot then i can consider the upgrade package hmm.gif
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post Nov 28 2018, 10:04 AM

 
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QUOTE(IMBeta305 @ Nov 28 2018, 10:02 AM)
yea still undecided.
And still waiting Anthony Loke reveal the new tinting guidelines
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damn just saw the news

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...ll-be-given-em/

okay i think i better wait for it too before i decide to go to the shop again
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post Nov 28 2018, 10:13 AM

 
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Nov 28 2018, 10:10 AM)
can go for irr75% with vlt 50%. won't regret one. eventhough mine tser only 39% but good enough when you compare inside with tint and put your hand outside.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Nov 28 2018, 10:11 AM)
My bad.

Look at it this way. It is not about whether it can cool faster or not but different point of view. The sun is continuously shining on the car along the way. With more heat rejection, the aircon will kick in less often compare to the one with less heat rejection, thus reduce fuel consumption  smile.gif

Anyway, the IRR is not everything on heat rejection. The TSER (Total Solar Energy Rejection) is the specification you want to look for if provided. The IRR can be more than 70% but TSER is only 45% for example. Go for highest TSER within budget.
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in that case

75% = 46% TSER
85% = 50% TSER

so that 4% worth to upgrade? laugh.gif for Rm400 ahahaha
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post Nov 28 2018, 10:30 AM

 
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QUOTE(Zot @ Nov 28 2018, 10:27 AM)
Worth as long as you feel good about it.  smile.gif
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so the 4% does make a big difference when it comes to TSER? hmm.gif
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post Nov 28 2018, 10:45 AM

 
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Nov 28 2018, 10:32 AM)
Yes, bro..if leather seats lagi need to pay more. I'm using v-kool elite now, money well spent.
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oh damn, yes my car is leather seat.

so the 4% TSER does help a lot if its leather seats huh? hmm.gif


QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Nov 28 2018, 10:36 AM)
50% for front is really really dark, especially at night.
And its quite obvious during a road block.
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so recommended to put 70% for windshield?
4 windows = 50%
rear = 50%? (although can go 30%, but i am just a bit OCD haha)

meaning to say, 50% is quite dark already at night? lol

QUOTE(jmas @ Nov 28 2018, 10:43 AM)
Mine is double layer, still got warranty for the tint
original is safety tint from manufacturer, just layer tint on top.
JPJ compliance, got warranty or not?
Mine from Raytech, they give warranty, if JPJ kacau, saman they pay.
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i also went to raytech and they told me its JPJ compliance. maybe i should ask them again on the saman thing tongue.gif

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post Nov 28 2018, 10:48 AM

 
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Nov 28 2018, 10:47 AM)
windshield must 70% vlt.
side windows 50% vlt max
rear 30% max
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i know but i wanna tweak it a bit by going either:

1. 70% front, 50% all around

or

2. 50% for the whole thing (rear/front/sides)

will the 50% be way too dark at night to not notice the interior and people sitting inside? or its okay? hmm.gif
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post Nov 28 2018, 11:03 AM

 
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Nov 28 2018, 10:49 AM)
jpj compliant must use 70% at front.

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bro, i know JPJ compliance is 70/50/30

but what i meant was i dunno if i should go for 70%/50% for 4 windows + rear

or 50% for all windows including windshield and rear laugh.gif


QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Nov 28 2018, 10:54 AM)
If you have rear shades, you may consider not needing to darken the rear windows beyond 50%.

I run 70/60/60 for 2 of my cars, but the darkest one is 60/30/30, but mainly because the car is black.

Does it help too much when you parked in the sun for the whole day? not really lol (and I use reflective shades inside when parked). But does it help when you are DRIVING in the hot sun? hell yeah

I've gotten away with the 60/30/30 for years mainly because I just open the sunroof. its a big one, so it lets A LOT of light in. they never bothered to pull me over.

my friend's 50% front never kena also, mostly because of luck. however, he has some issues driving in the dark, and far worse if it is raining.
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so 50% is harder to see huh

in that case i may consider 70% then for front while 50% for every other window

as i often (actually everyday) drive through dark alleys at night due to bad lighting system around my housing area. sweat.gif


QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 28 2018, 10:55 AM)
if that is the case, i'll go for the 75% and save the RM400
winding down the window for 30 seconds after u get into the car cools the car faster laugh.gif
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haha but that 30 secs was just my opinion, im not really sure on the difference how the 75-85% IR and 46-50% TSER come into play laugh.gif

thats why im asking if its worth or not.. its within my budget but if can save, why not laugh.gif

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post Nov 28 2018, 11:04 AM

 
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QUOTE(Zot @ Nov 28 2018, 10:55 AM)
Thanks for asking because it makes me wanted to know also.  laugh.gif  Here is what I found out. I take an example from 3M Crystaline series. Here is the data:

CR70
TSER=50%
IRR=97%
UVR=99%
Glare Reduction=22%

CR60
TSER=53%
IRR=97%
UVR=99%
Glare Reduction=32%

CR50
TSER=56%
IRR=97%
UVR=99%
Glare Reduction=44%

CR40
TSER=60%
IRR=97%
UVR=99%
Glare Reduction=55%

CR20
TSER=62%
IRR=97%
UVR=99%
Glare Reduction=77%

Maybe it will not answer to your satisfaction but ut seems to me even the small percentage is probably significant. See how the IRR and UVR number did not change at all. Looks like it is not easy to gain the TSER but do you think the CR70 vs CR50 will not have significant heat reduction? The TSER difference is only 6%. With CR40 it is only 10%. I guess it might be significant and something you can sense in real world. Just my opinion.  smile.gif
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how much is the top up between the different tint models?
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post Nov 28 2018, 11:22 AM

 
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QUOTE(Dineesh @ Nov 28 2018, 11:18 AM)
I was also so surveying on tints to replace for my car, then end up say got new guidelines so waiting for that news
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now i think again..

no point waiting because it wont go lower than 30% for sure. lol

either they will make it 70% for all (which will affect 95% of tinted car owners)

or make it 50% minimum

might even increase the rear 30% back to 50%
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Nov 28 2018, 11:28 AM)
pandai.
so far current spec is good enough.
imo 70% front is a must, rest 50% at least.

actually the current spec is this.

<img src='https://s2.<link removed>/image/2014/09/jpj-new-tint-rules-infographic-850x395.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
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ya i think i will go for 70% front and 50% everywhere else

rear can go 30% but i very OCD

is like 1 side bright, 1 side dark.. feel like kereta kena potong sweat.gif

no consistency in the tint appearance sweat.gif
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QUOTE(cococonutseller @ Nov 28 2018, 12:28 PM)
70/30 for all easy
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30 for sides + rear? lol

will it be too dark?

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