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post Nov 28 2018, 10:44 AM

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IR only contributes about 50% of your TSER.

so if IR 10%, .. is about 5% of TSER.
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post Nov 28 2018, 10:45 AM

 
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Nov 28 2018, 10:32 AM)
Yes, bro..if leather seats lagi need to pay more. I'm using v-kool elite now, money well spent.
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oh damn, yes my car is leather seat.

so the 4% TSER does help a lot if its leather seats huh? hmm.gif


QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Nov 28 2018, 10:36 AM)
50% for front is really really dark, especially at night.
And its quite obvious during a road block.
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so recommended to put 70% for windshield?
4 windows = 50%
rear = 50%? (although can go 30%, but i am just a bit OCD haha)

meaning to say, 50% is quite dark already at night? lol

QUOTE(jmas @ Nov 28 2018, 10:43 AM)
Mine is double layer, still got warranty for the tint
original is safety tint from manufacturer, just layer tint on top.
JPJ compliance, got warranty or not?
Mine from Raytech, they give warranty, if JPJ kacau, saman they pay.
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i also went to raytech and they told me its JPJ compliance. maybe i should ask them again on the saman thing tongue.gif

This post has been edited by mafioso: Nov 28 2018, 10:46 AM
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post Nov 28 2018, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(mafioso @ Nov 28 2018, 10:13 AM)
in that case

75% = 46% TSER
85% = 50% TSER

so that 4% worth to upgrade? laugh.gif for Rm400 ahahaha
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mine 39% tser is good enough.
if you ask me, 46% is ok. rm400 go use for something else.


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post Nov 28 2018, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(mafioso @ Nov 28 2018, 10:45 AM)
oh damn, yes my car is leather seat.

so the 4% TSER does help a lot if its leather seats huh? hmm.gif
so recommended to put 70% for windshield?
4 windows = 50%
rear = 50%? (although can go 30%, but i am just a bit OCD haha)

meaning to say, 50% is quite dark already at night? lol
i also went to raytech and they told me its JPJ compliance. maybe i should ask them again on the saman thing tongue.gif
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windshield must 70% vlt.
side windows 50% vlt max
rear 30% max

even mine 50% can see clear from inside.
actually you are the same feel like me before.

This post has been edited by iskazulka: Nov 28 2018, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Nov 28 2018, 10:47 AM)
windshield must 70% vlt.
side windows 50% vlt max
rear 30% max
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i know but i wanna tweak it a bit by going either:

1. 70% front, 50% all around

or

2. 50% for the whole thing (rear/front/sides)

will the 50% be way too dark at night to not notice the interior and people sitting inside? or its okay? hmm.gif
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post Nov 28 2018, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(mafioso @ Nov 28 2018, 10:48 AM)
i know but i wanna tweak it a bit by going either:

1. 70% front, 50% all around

or

2. 50% for the whole thing (rear/front/sides)

will the 50% be way too dark at night to not notice the interior and people sitting inside? or its okay? hmm.gif
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jpj compliant must use 70% at front.

before
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new tint
user posted image

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This post has been edited by iskazulka: Nov 28 2018, 10:55 AM
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post Nov 28 2018, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(mafioso @ Nov 28 2018, 10:45 AM)
so recommended to put 70% for windshield?
4 windows = 50%
rear = 50%? (although can go 30%, but i am just a bit OCD haha)
If you have rear shades, you may consider not needing to darken the rear windows beyond 50%.

I run 70/60/60 for 2 of my cars, but the darkest one is 60/30/30, but mainly because the car is black.

Does it help too much when you parked in the sun for the whole day? not really lol (and I use reflective shades inside when parked). But does it help when you are DRIVING in the hot sun? hell yeah

I've gotten away with the 60/30/30 for years mainly because I just open the sunroof. its a big one, so it lets A LOT of light in. they never bothered to pull me over.

my friend's 50% front never kena also, mostly because of luck. however, he has some issues driving in the dark, and far worse if it is raining.

This post has been edited by ViktorJ: Nov 28 2018, 10:56 AM
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post Nov 28 2018, 10:55 AM

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im using 3m...

if left under hot blazing sun..yes inside the car still hot but the panel expose to sunlight is warm and still comfortable to touch....inside cool faster when u on air con and start driving...that my exp...

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QUOTE(mafioso @ Nov 28 2018, 10:13 AM)
in that case

75% = 46% TSER
85% = 50% TSER

so that 4% worth to upgrade? laugh.gif for Rm400 ahahaha
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if that is the case, i'll go for the 75% and save the RM400
winding down the window for 30 seconds after u get into the car cools the car faster laugh.gif
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post Nov 28 2018, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(mafioso @ Nov 28 2018, 10:30 AM)
so the 4% does make a big difference when it comes to TSER? hmm.gif
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Thanks for asking because it makes me wanted to know also. laugh.gif Here is what I found out. I take an example from 3M Crystaline series. Here is the data:

CR70
TSER=50%
IRR=97%
UVR=99%
Glare Reduction=22%

CR60
TSER=53%
IRR=97%
UVR=99%
Glare Reduction=32%

CR50
TSER=56%
IRR=97%
UVR=99%
Glare Reduction=44%

CR40
TSER=60%
IRR=97%
UVR=99%
Glare Reduction=55%

CR20
TSER=62%
IRR=97%
UVR=99%
Glare Reduction=77%

Maybe it will not answer to your satisfaction but ut seems to me even the small percentage is probably significant. See how the IRR and UVR number did not change at all. Looks like it is not easy to gain the TSER but do you think the CR70 vs CR50 will not have significant heat reduction? The TSER difference is only 6%. With CR40 it is only 10%. I guess it might be significant and something you can sense in real world. Just my opinion. smile.gif
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post Nov 28 2018, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Nov 28 2018, 10:47 AM)
windshield must 70% vlt.
side windows 50% vlt max
rear 30% max

even mine 50% can see clear from inside.
actually you are the same feel like me before.
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It should be min instead of max smile.gif
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post Nov 28 2018, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Nov 28 2018, 10:57 AM)
It should be min instead of max  smile.gif
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what i mean is max limit can go.
min 70% vlt.
max 30% vlt.
btw vlt term = visible light transmission levels.
lower number doesn't mean small number also.
i correct also.

This post has been edited by iskazulka: Nov 28 2018, 11:03 AM
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post Nov 28 2018, 11:03 AM

 
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Nov 28 2018, 10:49 AM)
jpj compliant must use 70% at front.

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bro, i know JPJ compliance is 70/50/30

but what i meant was i dunno if i should go for 70%/50% for 4 windows + rear

or 50% for all windows including windshield and rear laugh.gif


QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Nov 28 2018, 10:54 AM)
If you have rear shades, you may consider not needing to darken the rear windows beyond 50%.

I run 70/60/60 for 2 of my cars, but the darkest one is 60/30/30, but mainly because the car is black.

Does it help too much when you parked in the sun for the whole day? not really lol (and I use reflective shades inside when parked). But does it help when you are DRIVING in the hot sun? hell yeah

I've gotten away with the 60/30/30 for years mainly because I just open the sunroof. its a big one, so it lets A LOT of light in. they never bothered to pull me over.

my friend's 50% front never kena also, mostly because of luck. however, he has some issues driving in the dark, and far worse if it is raining.
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so 50% is harder to see huh

in that case i may consider 70% then for front while 50% for every other window

as i often (actually everyday) drive through dark alleys at night due to bad lighting system around my housing area. sweat.gif


QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 28 2018, 10:55 AM)
if that is the case, i'll go for the 75% and save the RM400
winding down the window for 30 seconds after u get into the car cools the car faster laugh.gif
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haha but that 30 secs was just my opinion, im not really sure on the difference how the 75-85% IR and 46-50% TSER come into play laugh.gif

thats why im asking if its worth or not.. its within my budget but if can save, why not laugh.gif

This post has been edited by mafioso: Nov 28 2018, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(Zot @ Nov 28 2018, 10:55 AM)
Thanks for asking because it makes me wanted to know also.  laugh.gif  Here is what I found out. I take an example from 3M Crystaline series. Here is the data:

CR70
TSER=50%
IRR=97%
UVR=99%
Glare Reduction=22%

CR60
TSER=53%
IRR=97%
UVR=99%
Glare Reduction=32%

CR50
TSER=56%
IRR=97%
UVR=99%
Glare Reduction=44%

CR40
TSER=60%
IRR=97%
UVR=99%
Glare Reduction=55%

CR20
TSER=62%
IRR=97%
UVR=99%
Glare Reduction=77%

Maybe it will not answer to your satisfaction but ut seems to me even the small percentage is probably significant. See how the IRR and UVR number did not change at all. Looks like it is not easy to gain the TSER but do you think the CR70 vs CR50 will not have significant heat reduction? The TSER difference is only 6%. With CR40 it is only 10%. I guess it might be significant and something you can sense in real world. Just my opinion.  smile.gif
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how much is the top up between the different tint models?
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post Nov 28 2018, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(mafioso @ Nov 28 2018, 11:03 AM)
bro, i know JPJ compliance is 70/50/30

but what i meant was i dunno if i should go for 70%/50% for 4 windows + rear

or 50% for all windows including windshield and rear laugh.gif
so 50% is harder to see huh

in that case i may consider 70% then for front while 50% for every other window

as i often (actually everyday) drive through dark alleys at night due to bad lighting system around my housing area. sweat.gif
haha but that 30 secs was just my opinion, im not really sure on the difference how the 75-85% IR and 46-50% TSER come into play laugh.gif

thats why im asking if its worth or not.. its within my budget but if can save, why not laugh.gif
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50% vlt front
1) harder to see at night, raining
2) hight chance kena tahan

your choice.

if ts still hard to choose, i think you should get inside a car with a same spec tint that you want.



This post has been edited by iskazulka: Nov 28 2018, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(mafioso @ Nov 28 2018, 11:03 AM)
haha but that 30 secs was just my opinion, im not really sure on the difference how the 75-85% IR and 46-50% TSER come into play laugh.gif

thats why im asking if its worth or not.. its within my budget but if can save, why not laugh.gif
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i would say too small to tell
for me who is cheapskate, i would save that RM400 laugh.gif
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post Nov 28 2018, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 28 2018, 11:05 AM)
i would say too small to tell
for me who is cheapskate, i would save that RM400 laugh.gif
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let ts pening with choices.
we both already knew the outcome anyway. lol.
btw, mine's bias because also put soundproof. lol.

This post has been edited by iskazulka: Nov 28 2018, 11:10 AM
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post Nov 28 2018, 11:09 AM

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if put sunshades won't have problems with JPJ right?

save some money also if compare to install tint
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post Nov 28 2018, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Nov 28 2018, 11:09 AM)
if put sunshades won't have problems with JPJ right?

save some money also if compare to install tint
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you have to cabut sunshade when got jpj roadblock. because sunshade also non jpj compliant.
i done that before. in the end i also bosan because cabut pasang every times. put tint is better for me.
i already adjusting to 50% vlt, when guard want to see my face, i just roll down the windows la.
when at 10am or super bright noon, 50% vlt is actually visible from outside like using 65-70% vlt.

This post has been edited by iskazulka: Nov 28 2018, 11:15 AM
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post Nov 28 2018, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(mafioso @ Nov 28 2018, 11:04 AM)
how much is the top up between the different tint models?
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No idea. I never use 3M sad.gif

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