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tokdukun
post Nov 23 2018, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(gtfan @ Nov 23 2018, 06:09 PM)
I used to own a kia rio 1.4sx. Bought brand new in 2013 and sold it off in 2017. People who claim spare part problem is still living in dino era. This car is very well build for rm80k pricing. Don't believe, go and test drive. No other new car at that price range comes close to this car good NVH. Even going at above 160km/h feels planted as compared to city or vios. Please don't compare with myvi as it feels tin kosong and sound insulation is bad.

Only fault i can find in this car is the 4 speed auto gb and the 17inch wheel although i am not complaining coz it does look good. Part of the reason why the fuel economy may not be as good as vios or city. I am clocking about avg 11-12km per litre.
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Rio's failure because of those 2 things exactly : if wanna tempt people away from Japanese, don't la give dinosaur 4-speed. And 17" wheels, diu la, daily ride sure gonna be stiffer, heavier more underpowered feel, and bloody expensive to replace tyre.

Now better, 6-speed and 16", but could be better.
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post Nov 23 2018, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Nov 23 2018, 08:02 PM)
Oh well, different ppl different taste. I hate the skinny eco tires on City and Vios. ESP and ABS also become useless with these tires.

One of the reason I choose Rio (the older UB) was the good safety features, complete with high performance 17 inch tires. Not to mention the sunroof and better ride.

One of the reason why I choose it back then(2015) was because I'm not going to pay 10k more for a similarly equipped city. Yeah, City would be more economical on fuel but only clocked 13K in 3 years. So I paid less for the car, get 3 years free service, paid less for insurance renewal (no RV) etc.

I actually think the newer one suck. Yeah, 6 speed is good but I don't think they should take away 17 inch rim, sunroof. If I'm worried about fc, I would buy a City.
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But they're much cheaper to replace, a key deciding factor for the target market. High replacement cost isn't something those with <rm100k budget on car afford.

Then the perception it'll mean stiffer ride, heavier too, with puny 1.4 N/A engine, not attractive proposition.

A shame, cuz kia/hyundai have better NVH here overall than Japanese. My test drove experience back to back, and extended exposure in Honda civic tebu recently really made me question how much unseen things they skimped, but not Korean cars. It smitten me, i think I'd consider a used korean car next time, bad RV is an even bonus to me, give me more bargaining powet unlike Japanese stripped shitbox.
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post Nov 24 2018, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Nov 24 2018, 12:06 PM)
Are you sure 16 inch tires are cheaper?
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Generally they are cheaper.

Eg I found out now they use 195/55/R16, a Toyo NE03 is RM215 : https://www.mudah.my/Tayar+Swift+Honda+CRZ+...16-56140716.htm

If you change to something more common like 205/55/R16, there's much more choices and decent price for proper brands available.

Previously 205/45/R17, a Toyo (not mentioned) is RM270, same shop : https://www.mudah.my/Tayar+Baru+Jazz+City+V...17-68451803.htm

Of course there's cheaper option for this 17" size too, mostly weird brand rarely heard. Familiar brand that's cheaper is very limited, eg this Hankook for RM205 :

https://www.mudah.my/Tyre+tayar+205+45+17+h...ok-56258216.htm

But otherwise, other established like Yokohama, Dunlop, Michelin are way more premium.
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