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post Nov 21 2018, 10:41 AM, updated 10 months ago

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trip details start from Post #53 of the 3rd page

i'll be in KL for a few days in mid january(not school holiday and weekdays)
for routes, surely we have google maps and waze
but it doesn't really reflect the true traffic condition and real life do-ability
so need west malaysian folk's opinion and recommendation regard to my itinerary

my initial itinerary
Day 1 - arrive early morning > collect car > batu caves > melaka
Day 2 - Melaka
Day 3 - Melaka > fraser hill > Tanah Rata(cameron) > Brinchang(Cameron) > ipoh(Doable?...or need to overnight in cameron)
Day 4 - Ipoh
Day 5 - Ipoh > KL

Adjusted itinerary based on maps
Day 1 - arrive early morning > collect car > melaka day trip > KL
Day 2 - KL > batu caves > fraser hill > Tanah rata(Cameron)
Day 3 - Tanah rata > brinchang > Ipoh
Day 4 - Ipoh
Day 5 - Ipoh > KL

Itinerary not fixed yet, still trying to figure out the best of it...opinion is appreciated

Recommended Itinerary by ScooterBoi

Okay, here’s an offbeat destination for a driving holiday and adventure – Kelantan.

Kota Bharu is at the north-east tip of the peninsula and not the usual holiday destination due to its far distance from Klang Valley, Melaka, etc.

What to see and do in Kelantan? Visit temples and shopping! There are several Siamese temples to visit – one having the tallest standing Buddha, another temple has a big sitting Buddha, and the longest reclining Buddha is also in Kelantan and all are located around KB.

It is ideal to spend at least 2 nights in Kota Bharu to explore the town and the towns around it.
For ease of reading, this trip to Kelantan is split into several posts…

DAY 1

Day 1. KL-Kota Bharu.

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DAY 2

Day 2. Tumpat-Pengkalan Kubur-Rantau Panjang.

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DAY 3

Day 3. Kota Bharu – Kuala Kangsar.

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Recommended Itinerary by MR_alien (with photos)

DAY 1
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=91809019

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post Nov 21 2018, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 21 2018, 10:41 AM)
i'll be in KL for a few days in mid january(not school holiday and weekdays)
for routes, surely we have google maps and waze
but it doesn't really reflect the true traffic condition and real life do-ability
so need west malaysian folk's opinion and recommendation regard to my itinerary

my initial itinerary
Day 1 - arrive early morning > collect car > batu caves > melaka
Day 2 - Melaka
Day 3 - Melaka > fraser hill > Tanah Rata(cameron) > Brinchang(Cameron) > ipoh(Doable?...or need to overnight in cameron) - better spend a night in Cameron. You will probably arrive Cameron in late afternoon. [
Day 4 - Ipoh
Day 5 - Ipoh > KL

Adjusted itinerary based on maps
Day 1 - arrive early morning > collect car > melaka day trip > KL
Day 2 - KL > batu caves > fraser hill > Tanah rata(Cameron) - Too packed. How early are you going to Batu Caves, there might be morning peak hour rush until 9am. So the earliest for you to be at Batu Caves is 9 something or 10. Let you spend an hour there, 11 am depart for fraser hill, means 1pm reached Fraser. Then it's 3 hours to Cameron? You will reach Cameron at evening, only have time for night market/steamboat dinner, that's all. If I were you, I would skip Fraser Hill.
Day 3 - Tanah rata > brinchang > Ipoh - If you still insist on Fraser Hill, then stay this night at Cameron instead of Ipoh.
Day 4 - Ipoh
Day 5 - Ipoh > KL

Itinerary not fixed yet, still trying to figure out the best of it...opinion is appreciated
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I don't think you need to spend 2 nights in Ipoh, unless you have some nature/specific things to do that is time consuming? If no, it's just simple exploring and eating.

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post Nov 21 2018, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Nov 21 2018, 03:46 PM)
I don't think you need to spend 2 nights in Ipoh, unless you have some nature/specific things to do that is time consuming? If no, it's just simple exploring and eating.
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few question
1. which itinerary u think is better?
because i recently noticed batu caves is north of KL
in short, i will need to drive north to batu caves thn down south to melaka(1st itinerary)
hence i come out with the adjusted itinerary because from KL > batu caves > fraser hill > cameraon are all along the way(based on google map)

2. i travel for scenery and food, i chose to stay 2 nights in ipoh is because in my itinerary above
ipoh is usually the last stop of the day, meaning i will reach either afternoon or evening which i don't know have enough time to explore or not
i also saw ipoh got alot of good food
hence the extra day(i might be wrong)

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post Nov 21 2018, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 21 2018, 04:00 PM)
few question
1. which itinerary u think is better?
because i recently noticed batu caves is north of KL
in short, i will need to drive north to batu caves thn down south to melaka(1st itinerary)
hence i come out with the adjusted itinerary because from KL > batu caves > fraser hill > cameraon are all along the way(based on google map)

2. i travel for scenery and food, i chose to stay 2 nights in ipoh is because in my itinerary above
ipoh is usually the last stop of the day, meaning i will reach either afternoon or evening which i don't know have enough time to explore or not
i also saw ipoh got alot of good food
hence the extra day(i might be wrong)
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Second itinerary.

Day 1 - arrive early morning > collect car > melaka day trip > KL
Day 2 - KL > batu caves > fraser hill > Tanah rata (Cameron)
Day 3 - Tanah rata > brinchang
Day 4 - Brinchang > Ipoh (arrive for lunch)
Day 5 - Ipoh (breakfast, coffee & dimsum, sightseeing) > KL

You might need to do some research on Fraser Hill. I've never been there, but all my friends who's been there, told me it's boring. Don't know how true is that but maybe they have different expectations.
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post Nov 21 2018, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Nov 21 2018, 04:12 PM)
Second itinerary.

Day 1 - arrive early morning > collect car > melaka day trip > KL
Day 2 - KL > batu caves > fraser hill > Tanah rata (Cameron)
Day 3 - Tanah rata > brinchang
Day 4 - Brinchang > Ipoh (arrive for lunch)
Day 5 - Ipoh (breakfast, coffee & dimsum, sightseeing) > KL

You might need to do some research on Fraser Hill. I've never been there, but all my friends who's been there, told me it's boring. Don't know how true is that but maybe they have different expectations.
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i put fraser hill for short stop for picture and break only
that's why i slot in somewhere between there
cameron highland really got so much to do until can occupy 2 nights?
because based on my initial research on http://www.cameronhighland.net/
doesn't seem to be a lot or can u recommend me any?

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Nov 21 2018, 04:37 PM
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post Nov 21 2018, 04:49 PM

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For me, I will skip Fraser Hill.

For those who is in photography, probably there is something to appreciate. But I went there before.. couple of hours wasted to drive to & fr KL.. just to grab a tea. For me, is really time wasted.. nothing much unless you have too much time to waste.

If you are into good food, both Melaka & Ipoh can easily occupy your 2 nights each.
For Cameron, it can be done as daytrip (since is not school holiday) from Ipoh. Brinchang/ Tanah Rata.. all this is just the same pass through route belongs to Cameron Highland.

If for me to customize a trip for a friend, I would prefer:
Day 1 - arrive early morning > collect car > melaka day trip (overnight)
Day 2 - KL > batu caves > Ipoh (stay Ipoh)
Day 3 - Ipoh > Cameron Highland (Tanah rata/Brinchang no difference) > Ipoh
Day 4 - Ipoh (explore Ipoh) or may drive up to Taiping Lake /Batu Gajah (Kellie's Castle)
Day 5 - Ipoh > KL



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post Nov 21 2018, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 21 2018, 04:36 PM)
i put fraser hill for short stop for picture and break only
that's why i slot in somewhere between there
cameron highland really got so much to do until can occupy 2 nights?
because based on my initial research on http://www.cameronhighland.net/
doesn't seem to be a lot or can u recommend me any?
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I seconded itinerary proposed by lowlowc
fraser hill can skip, not worth it to waste time go up and down even it's otw

Cameron actually has more stuffs to do compared to Ipoh
few nice places for makan as well, strawberry ice-cream, scones, teas, and the famous charcoal steamboat, and the "pearl" jagung that can be eaten raw is a must try!
and my all time fav, sipping tea @ Boh plantation in the morning
sometimes stuff to do in Cameron depends on the day of your visit as well
weekend pasar malam at Tanah Rata worth a visit too



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post Nov 21 2018, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 21 2018, 04:36 PM)
i put fraser hill for short stop for picture and break only
that's why i slot in somewhere between there
cameron highland really got so much to do until can occupy 2 nights?
because based on my initial research on http://www.cameronhighland.net/
doesn't seem to be a lot or can u recommend me any?
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Because I assume by the time you arrive Cameron, it will be late evening already. Basically just eat dinner and sleep, or weekend night market.
So, next morning, go to Palas Plantation and have a cup of tea on the hill. Like greyshadow, it's my favorite thing to do there. Go there early to beat the crowd. Also kea farm for eating/buying some of the fresh produce. Eating sweet potato balls, fresh hot corn, cup corn in the cool morning is very enjoyable. I didn't explore much of lunch option, but I'll usually go to Tringkap Restaurant for lunch. Dinner is steamboat.

Next morning, see if there's anything else you wish to explore. My friend told me about a morning hiking tour, where you will hike to find the Rafflesia (if you're lucky) and some part of mossy jungle where car don't reach.

Unfortunately, I'm not expert on Ipoh, I usually go there for food only - Chicken Sprout, Dim Sum, Salt Bake Chicken, white coffee, egg tart and taufu far. drool.gif Dinner, not sure cause I've never stay there overnight.


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post Nov 21 2018, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(cc980024 @ Nov 21 2018, 04:49 PM)
For me, I will skip Fraser Hill.

For those who is in photography, probably there is something to appreciate. But I went there before.. couple of hours wasted to drive to & fr KL.. just to grab a tea. For me, is really time wasted.. nothing much unless you have too much time to waste.

If you are into good food, both Melaka & Ipoh can easily occupy your 2 nights each.
For Cameron, it can be done as daytrip (since is not school holiday) from Ipoh. Brinchang/ Tanah Rata.. all this is just the same pass through route belongs to Cameron Highland.

If for me to customize a trip for a friend, I would prefer:
Day 1 - arrive early morning > collect car > melaka day trip (overnight)
Day 2 - KL > batu caves > Ipoh (stay Ipoh)
Day 3 - Ipoh > Cameron Highland (Tanah rata/Brinchang no difference) > Ipoh
Day 4 - Ipoh (explore Ipoh) or may drive up to Taiping Lake /Batu Gajah (Kellie's Castle)
Day 5 - Ipoh  > KL
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thanks
never thought of doing it clockwise and do cameron highland as day trip before(always thought doing counter clockwise)
and yes, kellie's castle is in my itinerary, as well as kek lo tong cave temple, perak cave temple
my main point of ipoh is still food
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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Nov 21 2018, 04:57 PM)
I seconded itinerary proposed by lowlowc
fraser hill can skip, not worth it to waste time go up and down even it's otw

Cameron actually has more stuffs to do compared to Ipoh
few nice places for makan as well, strawberry ice-cream, scones, teas, and the famous charcoal steamboat, and the "pearl" jagung that can be eaten raw is a must try!
and my all time fav, sipping tea @ Boh plantation in the morning
sometimes stuff to do in Cameron depends on the day of your visit as well
weekend pasar malam at Tanah Rata worth a visit too
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what abt the itinerary cc980024 suggested?
doing cameron highland as daytrip instead?
cameron vs ipoh, which would u prefer?..and able to list down the places of interest in cameron?
seen not many info, that's why i kinda wanna cut it short

QUOTE(lowlowc @ Nov 21 2018, 05:41 PM)
Because I assume by the time you arrive Cameron, it will be late evening already. Basically just eat dinner and sleep, or weekend night market.
So, next morning, go to Palas Plantation and have a cup of tea on the hill. Like greyshadow, it's my favorite thing to do there. Go there early to beat the crowd. Also kea farm for eating/buying some of the fresh produce. Eating sweet potato balls, fresh hot corn, cup corn in the cool morning is very enjoyable. I didn't explore much of lunch option, but I'll usually go to Tringkap Restaurant for lunch. Dinner is steamboat.

Next morning, see if there's anything else you wish to explore. My friend told me about a morning hiking tour, where you will hike to find the Rafflesia (if you're lucky) and some part of mossy jungle where car don't reach.

Unfortunately, I'm not expert on Ipoh, I usually go there for food only - Chicken Sprout, Dim Sum, Salt Bake Chicken, white coffee, egg tart and taufu far. drool.gif  Dinner, not sure cause I've never stay there overnight.
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oh, ok..i understand u
reach late...next day only start exploring(1 full day)...i understood
i know ipoh is full of food, that's why am so eager to spend an extra day there
that's why am contemplating between cameron and ipoh laugh.gif

and i came from the land of rafflesia, i'm not that interested in those
tea should be something new, as well as those corn greyshadow mention

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Nov 21 2018, 06:29 PM
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This is family with children trip, couple trip or young adult trip?

Probably best to focus to visit KL, Melaka and Cameron.

Ipoh and Fraser can be skip due to limited time. It is better allocate time to explore the visit places than driving around.

For 1st timer, Melaka easily will set u back 1 days 1 night and 2 days 1 night for each KL and Cameron.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 21 2018, 06:27 PM)
what abt the itinerary cc980024 suggested?
doing cameron highland as daytrip instead?
cameron vs ipoh, which would u prefer?..and able to list down the places of interest in cameron?
seen not many info, that's why i kinda wanna cut it short
oh, ok..i understand u
reach late...next day only start exploring(1 full day)...i understood
i know ipoh is full of food, that's why am so eager to spend an extra day there
that's why am contemplating between cameron and ipoh laugh.gif

and i came from the land of rafflesia, i'm not that interested in those
tea should be something new, as well as those corn greyshadow mention
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Ipoh is a bit over rated, Penang food is worth it.

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Nov 21 2018, 07:10 PM)
This is family with children trip, couple trip or young adult trip?

Probably best to focus to visit KL, Melaka and Cameron.

Ipoh and Fraser can be skip due to limited time. It is better allocate time to explore the visit places than driving around.

For 1st timer, Melaka easily will set u back 1 days 1 night and 2 days 1 night for each KL and Cameron.
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no KL
i'm been to KL countless time when i transit there
now wanna explore outside of KL
places that require car to travel to
it's a young adult/couple trip...no children for sure
now aiming melaka, cameron and ipoh due to limited time

QUOTE(chamelion @ Nov 21 2018, 07:12 PM)
Ipoh is a bit over rated, Penang food is worth it.
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no penang, been there already like 2 years ago
each state has their places of interest and specialty food...no place's food is overrated for me
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 21 2018, 06:27 PM)
what abt the itinerary cc980024 suggested?
doing cameron highland as daytrip instead?
cameron vs ipoh, which would u prefer?..and able to list down the places of interest in cameron?
seen not many info, that's why i kinda wanna cut it short
oh, ok..i understand u
reach late...next day only start exploring(1 full day)...i understood
i know ipoh is full of food, that's why am so eager to spend an extra day there
that's why am contemplating between cameron and ipoh laugh.gif

and i came from the land of rafflesia, i'm not that interested in those
tea should be something new, as well as those corn greyshadow mention
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not a fan of Ipoh, mostly just a stopover for lunch/dinner, for me it's nothing much to see & do there

For Cameron, there's a Lavender farm, self-pick strawberry farms, and Kea farm for fresh produce, and the Sg Palas Boh Plantation is a must for me, sipping tea at the elevated platform overseeing the plantation, it's a sight you can't find at other place. Time tunnel, butterfly garden those you can skip imo...
If you're going to Sg Palas, Moss Jungle is just nearby, can add that into your itinerary as well
But beware the road to Sg Palas is very narrow and winding, need to drive slow and careful, especially at tight corners, honk to warn incoming traffic.
and also to/from Cameron, as a first timer and not driving your own car, I would suggest you take the longer route using Simpang Pulai instead of shorter route, Tapah which is more challenging.
Also I'll avoid driving up/down Cameron at night if it's my first time self-drive there
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 21 2018, 06:21 PM)
thanks
never thought of doing it clockwise and do cameron highland as day trip before(always thought doing counter clockwise)
and yes, kellie's castle is in my itinerary, as well as kek lo tong cave temple, perak cave temple
my main point of ipoh is still food
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I can suggest so, coz Ipoh was my hometown. For places such as Cameron, Taiping, Batu Gajah, even Pangkor. We usually do it in day trip. Stay Cameron just because probably want a cold night (if Pangkor overnight just because of water spot).
Quite a few years back for my last visit to Cameron. We actually drive after breakfast .. out of blue wanted to go somewhere then simply drive up to Cameron fr Ipoh, reach there visited tea plantation, strawberry picking, drive all the way up and stopby whatever stalls.. and end the day with a short visit to pasar malam and drive bk Ipoh at night (not late night yah)

You actually can arrange to stopby Kek Lok Tong, when you on the way to Cameron. This cave is not huge, 30mins is more than enough. Or you can do the cave visit on the day that you leaving Ipoh to KL.

Ipoh, I got no comment. Ever since it tourist gushing into this town, I reluctant to go back already.
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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Nov 22 2018, 09:24 AM)
not a fan of Ipoh, mostly just a stopover for lunch/dinner, for me it's nothing much to see & do there

For Cameron, there's a Lavender farm, self-pick strawberry farms, and Kea farm for fresh produce, and the Sg Palas Boh Plantation is a must for me, sipping tea at the elevated platform overseeing the plantation, it's a sight you can't find at other place.  Time tunnel, butterfly garden those you can skip imo...
If you're going to Sg Palas, Moss Jungle is just nearby, can add that into your itinerary as well
But beware the road to Sg Palas is very narrow and winding, need to drive slow and careful, especially at tight corners, honk to warn incoming traffic.
and also to/from Cameron, as a first timer and not driving your own car, I would suggest you take the longer route using Simpang Pulai instead of shorter route, Tapah which is more challenging.
Also I'll avoid driving up/down Cameron at night if it's my first time self-drive there
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thanks for the places of interest
now i was think to do cameron and ipoh...1.5 days each
Day 1 - arrive early morning > collect car > melaka day trip (overnight)
Day 2 - Melaka > batu caves > Tanah rata(overnight),brinchang
Day 3 - Tour cameron > Ipoh(reach evening)
Day 4 - Ipoh
Day 5 - Ipoh > KL

how is this itinerary?
i don't think i have any problem driving up through tapah since i'm used to driving the winding road up kundasang, sabah
not sure is the same or not


QUOTE(cc980024 @ Nov 22 2018, 09:30 AM)
I can suggest so, coz Ipoh was my hometown. For places such as Cameron, Taiping, Batu Gajah, even Pangkor. We usually do it in day trip. Stay Cameron just because probably want a cold night (if Pangkor overnight just because of water spot).
Quite a few years back for my last visit to Cameron. We actually drive after breakfast .. out of blue wanted to go somewhere then simply drive up to Cameron fr Ipoh, reach there visited tea plantation, strawberry picking, drive all the way up and stopby whatever stalls.. and end the day with a short visit to pasar malam and drive bk Ipoh at night (not late night yah)

You actually can arrange to stopby Kek Lok Tong, when you on the way to Cameron. This cave is not huge, 30mins is more than enough. Or you can do the cave visit on the day that you leaving Ipoh to KL.

Ipoh, I got no comment. Ever since it tourist gushing into this town, I reluctant to go back already.
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now i was think to do cameron and ipoh...1.5 days each
Day 1 - arrive early morning > collect car > melaka day trip (overnight)
Day 2 - Melaka > batu caves > Tanah rata(overnight),brinchang
Day 3 - Tour cameron > Ipoh(reach evening)
Day 4 - Ipoh
Day 5 - Ipoh > KL

how is this itinerary?
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 22 2018, 09:50 AM)
thanks for the places of interest
now i was think to do cameron and ipoh...1.5 days each
Day 1 - arrive early morning > collect car > melaka day trip (overnight)
Day 2 - Melaka > batu caves > Tanah rata(overnight),brinchang
Day 3 - Tour cameron > Ipoh(reach evening)
Day 4 - Ipoh
Day 5 - Ipoh  > KL

how is this itinerary?
i don't think i have any problem driving up through tapah since i'm used to driving the winding road up kundasang, sabah
not sure is the same or not
now i was think to do cameron and ipoh...1.5 days each
Day 1 - arrive early morning > collect car > melaka day trip (overnight)
Day 2 - Melaka > batu caves > Tanah rata(overnight),brinchang
Day 3 - Tour cameron > Ipoh(reach evening)
Day 4 - Ipoh
Day 5 - Ipoh  > KL

how is this itinerary?
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similar but not quite the same like Kundasang, Kundasang is a lot more easier IMO
worst is you encountered a slow moving lorry where you can't overtake due to tight corners and you can't see incoming traffics
and sometimes you'll see F1 drivers (local farmers) zipping up & down there very fast in their pickup
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 22 2018, 09:50 AM)

now i was think to do cameron and ipoh...1.5 days each
Day 1 - arrive early morning > collect car > melaka day trip (overnight)
Day 2 - Melaka > batu caves > Tanah rata(overnight),brinchang
Day 3 - Tour cameron > Ipoh(reach evening)
Day 4 - Ipoh
Day 5 - Ipoh  > KL

how is this itinerary?
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This looks ok. thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Nov 22 2018, 10:53 AM)
similar but not quite the same like Kundasang, Kundasang is a lot more easier IMO
worst is you encountered a slow moving lorry where you can't overtake due to tight corners and you can't see incoming traffics
and sometimes you'll see F1 drivers (local farmers) zipping up & down there very fast in their pickup
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i know exactly how it felt because i encounter the same thing going up kundasang
difference is there are no other way going up kundasang laugh.gif
because if i use the simpang pulai route, i might as well just stay ipoh and do day trip...it looks really far(turn 1 big round) laugh.gif
and which is the best steamboat place in cameron?...most seem to have bad reviews

looks like i might finalize my itinerary to this
Day 1 - arrive early morning > collect car > melaka day trip (overnight)
Day 2 - Melaka > batu caves > Tanah rata(overnight),brinchang
Day 3 - Tour cameron > Ipoh(reach evening)
Day 4 - Ipoh
Day 5 - Ipoh > KL

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First night - Melaka
Second night - Cameron
Third night - Cameron
Fourth night - Ipoh
Fifth day - Go back KL

There are many places to visit in Cameron actually, if you are a first timer there. I recommend stay two nights at Cameron unless if u have been there before.

Ipoh is also a nice place to drive around. U can visit some temples there.


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