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post Nov 21 2018, 07:39 AM

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Just bought the engine treatment @ ace hardware publika yesterday. Didn't know ace has so many products for cars.

Don't have the spray. Thought I just did throttle body cleaning in workshop this year.

Likely to do this only on Jan, my next oil change.

Wondering whats the cheapest engine oil I can get for sacrificial oil. Haha

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post Nov 21 2018, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Nov 20 2018, 03:56 PM)
why would u want to do that ?
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Guess it's to prove the kopi color is not just because of the result of mixing engine oil and seafoam. Rather it's the engine cleaning.
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post Nov 21 2018, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Nov 21 2018, 07:56 AM)
Guess it's to prove the kopi color is not just because of the result of mixing engine oil and seafoam. Rather it's the engine cleaning.
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oh, okay, but not looking at the kopi colour also can feel the difference d.
unless your car is still new like 2year old.
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post Nov 23 2018, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(zemega @ Nov 14 2018, 05:00 PM)
Really? Ace Hardware? Could not find in Lazada/Shopee/Lelong. How much per set? Are you using all three bottles?

There's one to put in fuel tank. One to put where the enging oil goes. I'm not quite sure about the last one, you spray it into the air intake as the engine is running? I'm not sure where to spray in Iswara.
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post Nov 23 2018, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Nov 21 2018, 07:39 AM)
Just bought the engine treatment @ ace hardware publika yesterday. Didn't know ace has so many products for cars.

Don't have the spray. Thought I just did throttle body cleaning in workshop this year.

Likely to do this only on Jan, my next oil change.

Wondering whats the cheapest engine oil I can get for sacrificial oil. Haha
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I did surveys at Queensbay Mall Penang. I'm surprised many of the car stuff in ACE are cheaper than AEON. Unfortunately, I cannot find clay bar there.

QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Nov 21 2018, 07:56 AM)
Guess it's to prove the kopi color is not just because of the result of mixing engine oil and seafoam. Rather it's the engine cleaning.
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Indeed.
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post Dec 12 2018, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Nov 21 2018, 08:04 AM)
oh, okay, but not looking at the kopi colour also can feel the difference d.
unless your car is still new like 2year old.
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What cheap engine oil did you use for the flushing? Thinking of what cheapest to get.
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post Dec 17 2018, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Nov 23 2018, 09:49 PM)
I did surveys at Queensbay Mall Penang. I'm surprised many of the car stuff in ACE are cheaper than AEON. Unfortunately, I cannot find clay bar there.
Indeed.
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I went there too, but couldnt find the seafoam fuel injector cleaner that need to pour in petrol tank.
Only hv the spray, to clean throttle valve
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post Dec 18 2018, 10:49 AM

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I don't know about you guys but I will only put potentially harmful chemicals into my engine if I'm having problems and I have nothing to lose. If your car is running well don't court trouble for nothing just because of anecdotal accounts on the internet. Don't believe everything you read online. I'm not saying it doesn't work but if your car don't really need this why take the risk?

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post Dec 20 2018, 11:35 PM

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whats the diff btw this and techron and hitech synthetic cleaner

and ron 97 ron 100

all say clean clean clean

and a few ques to TS

1) how often many k km need to start do?
(for you)

2) the cheap engine oil u use to flush kopi O - fully synthetic or semi enough (since just to flush)

3) fuel economy better...so if I do this regularly per say 50k km, I dont need to pump ron 97 d? since economically this is much better than consistent ron 97 (also to clean engine)

4) If I dont wanna get my hands dirty, I do the first few steps (pour in engine oil hole and petrol tank) and let shop do the rest , which shop can do it?

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post Dec 21 2018, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Dec 20 2018, 11:35 PM)
whats the diff btw this and techron and hitech synthetic cleaner

and ron 97 ron 100

all say clean clean clean

and a few ques to TS

1) how often many k km need to start do?
(for you)

2) the cheap engine oil u use to flush kopi O - fully synthetic or semi enough (since just to flush)

3) fuel economy better...so if I do this regularly per say 50k km, I dont need to pump ron 97 d? since economically this is much better than consistent ron 97 (also to clean engine)

4) If I dont wanna get my hands dirty, I do the first few steps (pour in engine oil hole and petrol tank) and let shop do the rest , which shop can do it?
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I think why not any outside workshop won't do? At least for thd engine oil part. Petrol tank don't need do anything. What they need to do is just replace engine oil without replace filter. Let it run 10 mins, then replace engine oil and filter again. The problem is, you need to make sure to ask the price first. It could be 2x your normal engine oil change. Or it could be slightly less.
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post Dec 26 2018, 12:49 PM

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Thanks TS.. Just did mine.. The spray bottle left 1/4 and couldnt spray anymore.. Damn..

Notice very good improvement before oil change..

Unfortunately for the fuel add.. Notice got some fuel stuck issue.. Macam fuel couldn't reach... Have to continue monitor

Didnt do 2nd drain immediately.. Will do after 2-3 weeks..

Noticable my 1 1/2 month engine oil is dirty
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post Dec 26 2018, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(kluseng @ Dec 18 2018, 10:49 AM)
I don't know about you guys but I will only put potentially harmful chemicals into my engine if I'm having problems and I have nothing to lose. If your car is running well don't court trouble for nothing just because of anecdotal accounts on the internet. Don't believe everything you read online. I'm not saying it doesn't work but if your car don't really need this why take the risk?
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worst case scenario is that it could cause leaks if gasket has not been change periodically. the chemicals are all petroleum based

but a lot of ppl already kena parang from this unstable idling problem, which can cause strings of wrongly misdiagnosed problems.
mechanics might propose to change AC, change spark plugs, belt, belt tensioner, overhaul engine top, change sensor, change lots of stuff.

another factor is bad FC and bad throttle response. the car become crappy that you wanna change it.


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QUOTE(lkm51 @ Dec 26 2018, 12:49 PM)
Thanks TS.. Just did mine.. The spray bottle left 1/4 and couldnt spray anymore.. Damn..

Notice very good improvement before oil change..

Unfortunately for the fuel add.. Notice got some fuel stuck issue.. Macam fuel couldn't reach... Have to continue monitor

Didnt do 2nd drain immediately.. Will do after 2-3 weeks..

Noticable my 1 1/2 month engine oil is dirty
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u dint pour the liquid into engine oil ah ?

half into oil tank, the other half into engine oil hole.
run for a few days, then only proceed to spray and service your car.

i pour in liquid immediately the car felt lighter when pedal cuz the car move when stepped on pedal a bit.
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post Dec 26 2018, 02:09 PM

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Work for most port fuel injector but won't work for direct injection , engine oil sometimes really depend driving habit , 120km 8 year old local car i service in time whichever come first

, i flush power steering fluid , coolant and brakes fluid every year , I only flush my atf fluid d3 every 40k replace filter every 80k , since fluid there are boiling point know the limitations then can last a bit long rather than waste time and money change atf fluid every 20k d3

Engine oil is like no matter how good you use is like once you fried a fish entire oil is black , I mean if u use fully synthetic not always travel far I rather you buy semi drain every 3k lagi better right .....

Using all this cleaning agent are nothing bad or good if your car in good condition In engine part unless you are type not bother when problem come only complain then give it a try if engine running fine when service remember let your engine hot enough only drain the oil

But personal I not prefer suction haha

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post Dec 26 2018, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Dec 20 2018, 11:35 PM)
whats the diff btw this and techron and hitech synthetic cleaner

and ron 97 ron 100

all say clean clean clean

and a few ques to TS

1) how often many k km need to start do?
(for you)

2) the cheap engine oil u use to flush kopi O - fully synthetic or semi enough (since just to flush)

3) fuel economy better...so if I do this regularly per say 50k km, I dont need to pump ron 97 d? since economically this is much better than consistent ron 97 (also to clean engine)

4) If I dont wanna get my hands dirty, I do the first few steps (pour in engine oil hole and petrol tank) and let shop do the rest , which shop can do it?
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1. i think around 40,000km to 50,000km (about 1.5years to 2years time) do once, your car will feel like brand new

2. semi syn also ok, it's just to flush out whatever dirty things remaining inside engine

3. fuel economy here meaning after lets say 4-5years your FC will never be the same as the day you bought the car.
because engines inside will have lots of sticky things like carbon, oil residue built up. then valves that circulates air passage gets clogged, sensors are dirty (cars have computers inside that controls air and fuel mixtures to burn efficiently, if the reading is out, then maybe more petrol is consumed, coupled with bad throttle response, you'll most likely press down pedal kawkaw because the power delivery lags and the gear shift is slower. like you press all the way down instead of half because the car isnt functioning efficiently).
newer fuel like BHP they added a bit of cleaning agents in fuel. maybe get better cleaning effect down the fuel line and intake valve, but still everything will get dirty irregardless.
when your throttle response is good, you wont press pedal that hard, then you'll save fuel

4. normal shops dont do it.
even for engine flush, workshop is hesitant to do it because might cause engine gasket to leak. only official service centre that forces you to periodically change gasket will do it. cuz if it leaks they get blamed. that's for engine flush. (subang jaya performance shop got help ppl do liquid moly engine flush)

for the spray they dont like to do it as well. hardly cuz our local mechanics are old fashioned type.

what i've seen those specilized workshop do is clean part by part (but not spray and rev it out) which will cost about RM 900+
1. clean throttle body
2. open top do chemical cleaning on pistons
3. intake valve walnut blast
4. take out whole EGR valve to clean

imagine u buy a bottle RM55 can do cleaning almost the same way comparing to the mech taking out everything and bill you RM 900+ for it.

i cant imagine doing this at workshop, car spitting white smoke from exhaust, later customers thought the mechanic wreck customers car laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

This post has been edited by AllnGap: Dec 26 2018, 02:33 PM
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post Dec 26 2018, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Dec 26 2018, 01:43 PM)
u dint pour the liquid into engine oil ah ?

half into oil tank, the other half into engine oil hole.
run for a few days, then only proceed to spray and service your car.

i pour in liquid immediately the car felt lighter when pedal cuz the car move when stepped on pedal a bit.
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post Dec 26 2018, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(zuozi @ Dec 26 2018, 02:09 PM)
Work for most port fuel injector but won't work for direct injection , engine oil sometimes really depend driving habit , 120km 8 year old local car i service in time whichever come first

, i flush power steering fluid , coolant and brakes fluid every year , I only flush my atf fluid d3 every 40k replace filter every 80k , since fluid there are boiling point know the limitations then can last a bit long rather than waste time and money change atf fluid every 20k d3

Engine oil is like no matter how good you use is like once you fried a fish entire oil is black , I mean if u use fully synthetic not always travel far I rather you buy semi drain every 3k lagi better right .....

Using all this cleaning agent are nothing bad or good if your car in good condition In engine part unless you are type not bother when problem come only complain then give it a try if engine running fine when service remember let your engine hot enough only drain the oil

But personal I not prefer suction haha
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i suggest you go find how intake valves, throttle body, EGR valve looks like after 100,000km.

a person cant possibly run efficiently if he hadnt pick his nose or brushes his teeth for 8years straight
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QUOTE(zuozi @ Dec 26 2018, 02:09 PM)
Work for most port fuel injector but won't work for direct injection , engine oil sometimes really depend driving habit , 120km 8 year old local car i service in time whichever come first

, i flush power steering fluid , coolant and brakes fluid every year , I only flush my atf fluid d3 every 40k replace filter every 80k , since fluid there are boiling point know the limitations then can last a bit long rather than waste time and money change atf fluid every 20k d3

Engine oil is like no matter how good you use is like once you fried a fish entire oil is black , I mean if u use fully synthetic not always travel far I rather you buy semi drain every 3k lagi better right .....

Using all this cleaning agent are nothing bad or good if your car in good condition In engine part unless you are type not bother when problem come only complain then give it a try if engine running fine when service remember let your engine hot enough only drain the oil

But personal I not prefer suction haha
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just a reference picture, the seafoam cant clean till this extent.
basically this is what it looks like

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